The 2025 U-20 Player Pool Thread

Discussion in 'Youth National Teams' started by David Kerr, Feb 29, 2020.

  1. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  2. Thundering165

    Thundering165 Member+

    North Carolina FC
    United States
    May 1, 2017
    Raleigh
    Looking at Jamaica’s roster.. it’s not good. The smaller tournament means higher level of opponents, but we should roll through this one fairly easily. Cuba has a couple talents but not likely to do much either. Costa Rica is really the most interesting first round opponent and their forwards are going to be a lot to handle. Should win the midfield battle fairly handily though.
     
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  3. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Cuba is always............................the unknown.

    I always feel like I'm going with stereotypes when judging these draws rather than actual knowledge of the teams/players.
     
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  4. Thundering165

    Thundering165 Member+

    North Carolina FC
    United States
    May 1, 2017
    Raleigh
    I think Cuba players have the advantage of playing together a lot more. Smaller league and they all know each other.

    Jamaica struggled mightily in qualification for the U20s.
     
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  5. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
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  6. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    There is undoubtedly ample space for competition in this pool heading into the finals. (Thinking more about the specific tournament team than players' long-term potential.) Tsakiris and Raines are particular standouts for me in terms of how their presence helps the team. Several other guys have been solid.

    I continue to think that for this level our CB pool right now looks particularly strong. It's a shame about Vargas, who I figure walks right into this group and improves it. Bottom line, hopefully the team 1) gets enough camps that the pool gets a good look-over and 2) releases aren't a nightmare.

    Some partnerships/lineups also need time to come together -- something about Tsakiris/Habroune didn't work yesterday, for example. Chile is a long way off and the pool will probably evolve pretty substantially.
     
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  7. Peretz48

    Peretz48 Member+

    Nov 9, 2003
    Los Angeles
    I sure hope the pool evolves. So much depends on the release of players. Unless I'm mistaken FIFA only requires the release of players for senior NTs. It's clear that we need an influx of players. We should be smoking Guatemala with the talent we have but we could only muster a meh performance in a game that counted. They'll have to play much better to get by Panama.
     
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  8. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    The performance is going downwards from group stages. It might be coaching. It might also be discomfort from the fields or changing venues from Celaya. However, we have to understand that smoking even weaker opponents regularly is an exception in international games and shouldn't be taken for granted.
     
  9. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    It wasn't a good performance by the US, but we shouldn't be judging youth teams by senior teams. The Dominican Republic just acquitting themselves pretty well in the Olympics with a tie of Egypt and Uzbekistan and only losing to Spain 3-1. And their senior team is worse than Guatemala.

    Pretty much every youth tournament, we end up with something like this. I remember losing to Ukraine in the first round in 2017(?) and people freaking out and then Ukraine won the whole thing.

    Especially at the U20 level, a team can do with with time together. I thought we were pretty poor plus some bad gameplan choices, but I think there's also a pretty good chance Guatemala was the this tourney's Dominican Republic and we got saved by Adam Beaudry.

    Here's the other thing with this team:

    2005: 7 players
    2006: 11 players
    2007: 2 players
    2008: 1 player

    Only 12 of 23 were born in the first half of the year, as well.

    It's an ABSURDLY young team, especially a year before the actual World Cup. While most other teams are rolling out lineups that are almost all 19, we're rolling out lineups that are probably on average close to a full year younger.

    Our attackers feature a 2008, 2 2007s, 2 2006s and ONE 2005 (Zambrano). It is so very young.

    Now, the 2005 class isn't very good overall, and we, unfortunately, seem to have possibly lost / lost multiple of our best players for now -- Buck, Esmir, Vargas.

    But there's a decent slew of guys left home that could upgrade the team across the 2005 and 2006, plus another year for the youngsters. They will still be younger, but it's an easier year. Someone like Cole Campbell is simply going to be much more ready than Berchimas.

    There's a lot of key dual nationals left -- Kochen, Banks, Barajas.
     
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  10. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I didn’t realize the U20 World Cup itself is in September and October 2025 instead of its usual summer window.

    Feels like that is going to make releases somewhat difficult. Though it might increase the chances of Cavan Sullivan making the team given he’ll turn 16 during the tournament and that Union have always been very good about releases.
     
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  11. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    It seems to me that U-20 CONCACAF qualifying and even the World Cup is going rapidly down in estimation for many of our players.
     
  12. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It’s also just the timing. I don’t think MLS teams are going to want to release any one of consequence immediately before the playoffs. Similarly while I think there’s some overlap with the international window European releases will still be tricky.

    But it’s also the case that releases will be difficult for everyone else too. So we’ll likely send a younger team of guys who mostly play MLS Next Pro.

    Similarly with qualifying had it been earlier in the summer we might have gotten more releases, especially with the European based players.
     
  13. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    So like the "roster game" now is like: Pick 21 guys and three GKs; you can replace 10 players from qualifying, but for every new guy you get, you gotta scratch someone else you want off your list because they won't be released. This is obviously a ridiculous assignment, but it's probably more or less the reality. Good times!
     
  14. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Is this confirmed? Any link?
     
  15. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well looking into it more it’s unclear. The original place I looked was the Wikipedia page which said September 27-October 19 but the only documents I can from FIFA says “a date to be confirmed.” So maybe not actually the case and why you don’t just go off Wikipedia.
     
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  16. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    The tournament will feature 24 teams, including the host nation, competing across various cities in Chile. Although the specific dates have not yet been confirmed, it is expected to take place in mid-2025.
     
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  17. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  18. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member+

    United States
    Mar 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is there no way to watch this?
     
  19. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You have to pay $5 for VIX (Spanish) or be subscribed to Fox Soccer 2 (not FS1)... so pretty much no for 99.99999% of us.
     
  20. Boysinblue

    Boysinblue Member

    Jul 31, 2011
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I put my location to Asia on VPN and am watching a feed from CONCACAF's youtube channel:
     
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  21. Winoman

    Winoman Drinkin' Wine Spo-De-O-De!

    Jul 26, 2000
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's also on TUDN. I'm watching it on FIOS-TV.
     
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  22. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I imagine he’ll get a look as he gets back up to speed.

     
  23. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
     
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  24. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
     
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  25. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas

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