The 2025 MLS TV Thread

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by SetPeace, Jan 22, 2025.

  1. mbar

    mbar Member+

    Apr 30, 1999
    Los Angeles, CA
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
    #1751 mbar, Dec 7, 2025
    Last edited: Dec 7, 2025
    While we wait for some ratings to bicker about, I was wondering what you all thought of the picture quality of MLS on Apple TV? I feel like they used to argue that they’d present everything in 4k.

    however I recently got a really good LG OLED tv and the picture quality of MLS on apple tv is not anywhere close to how nice the 4k broadcasts of college football on fox or espn, for example. It was really obvious when turning from mls cup to Georgia v Alabama yesterday and Indiana v Ohio State. This American football games look incredible and mls on apple never really does.

    just wondering your thoughts.

    should mention I’m watching the 4k college football on YouTube tv
     
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  2. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
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    Philadelphia Union
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    United States
    Just out of curiosity, did you switch to FOX to see if there was a difference for the Cup? I did notice when they used the Apple iPhone cameras there was a difference but for the most part on the replay I thought the quality was good. I didn't compare it to other events so I guess it's hard to answer your point with the college broadcast.
     
  3. mbar

    mbar Member+

    Apr 30, 1999
    Los Angeles, CA
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Fox broadcast is clearly not a 4 k broadcast. It’s really easy to tell on YouTube tv if something is a 4k presentation or not. It’s pretty rare. A few college football games a week, mlb playoffs, odds and ends other items.

    Looking at Fox HD broadcast on YTTV it looks the same as apple tv to my eyes. Maybe the Fox broadcast had a weird color mix but neither was sharper than the other. I had my wife do the “Pepsi challenge” just now between the versions and this was her verdict too lol.
     
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  4. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
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    DC United
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    United States
    How so? I mean, the icicle bicycle in the CPL championship game went superviral but it didn’t move the league enough to measure without a microscope.
    their pink jerseys are great. Their blue jerseys are next level, they’re perfection.
     
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  5. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
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    Given the doom over last year’s number obviously a strong number this year means MLS has reached a tremendously huge new level of awesomeness. :thumbsup:

    A bad number and it’s time for NASL 4.0 or whatever number they’re on.
     
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  6. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

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    MLS Moves is a troll.
     
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  7. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

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    Nr Kingston NY
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    Michael Jordan is the GOAT.
     
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  8. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
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    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From what I gather Fox streams in 1080. Fox on TV is usually 720.

    The 4K feed is upscaled for premium services. It's not as good as native 4K.

    I may be wrong.
     
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  9. NorthBank

    NorthBank Moderator
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    Arsenal; NYRB
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    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    That was my theory also, for the early KO, as I mighta expressed earlier?
     
  10. NorthBank

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    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
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    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I said the same yesterday mid-match and was met with incredulity. ;)
     
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  11. NorthBank

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    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
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    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah but I see way more pink miami jerseys out and about than red chicago jerseys back in the day.
     
  12. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

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    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
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    United States
    Depends where you are. NBA has no following in the UK but it's massive in other parts of Europe. There were plenty of Joe Theisman jerseys back in the day and of course millions of Yankee caps, mainly because they look cool.
     
  13. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
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    Philadelphia Union
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    United States
    I don't think it's that extreme. If the number is better, I would think it means they captured an audience that aren't Apple subscribers. Even though the game was free most folks who want nothing to do with signing up might be the crowd that watches on linear TV. It could also be the same as last year but ten times the number on Apple and that would be the data they might base decisions on. If they had a million people watching or ten million on Apple you would think that moves the needle one way or the other.
     
  14. FoxBoro 143

    FoxBoro 143 Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    MA
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    I believe I remember them announcing that everything would be in 1080 on Apple when the deal started. A few years ago, that was still a pretty big deal.
    I don't remember 4k ever being talked about
     
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  15. AZUL GALAXY

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    Aug 28, 2009
    Los Angeles
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    What are your predictions for the MLS CUP tv ratings? but on YouTube so far the highlights are good, MLS 2.6 million, Fox soccer over 700 k, Fox deportes 1 million etc.:)
     
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  16. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

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    Apr 18, 2015
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    The official 2025 highlights have 2.7 million views on MLS YouTube channel.

    2024 have 252k, 2023 284k.
     
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  17. mbar

    mbar Member+

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    Los Angeles, CA
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
    Ha. Thank you. I am reaching an age where I start inventing things in my head, lol. Maybe it’s talk about picture quality was just a clearer HD.
     
  18. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
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    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Part of Messi’s pay comes from season pass subscriptions.

    Not anymore
     
  19. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
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    United States
    World Cup Draw Ratings:

     
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  20. eagercolin

    eagercolin Member+

    Metro
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    Aug 25, 2017
    Buffalo
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    Reggie Cannon still regrets signing a contract dependent on Boavista Season pass subscriptions.
     
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  21. superkeeper

    superkeeper Member

    Jul 9, 2003
    USA
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    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pretty sure 2014 was eastern time and noon local. I was actually there watching the Revs lost cup number 5.
     
  22. Stan Collins

    Stan Collins Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Silver Spring, MD
    They must have negotiated sort of make-up for that. You wouldn't get away with just unilaterally yanking an income source from the biggest star in the league. They must have done something to make him happy.
     
  23. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh, so THAT explains those refereeing decisions! (just kidding!)
     
  24. mbar

    mbar Member+

    Apr 30, 1999
    Los Angeles, CA
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
    Shouldn't we be freaking out about ratings by now? Anyone seen anything?
     
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  25. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Bad sign that it hasn't been released yet? Big 10 championship game number already out from the same network...
     

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