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  1. Sofabloke

    Sofabloke Member+

    Dec 24, 2003
    Mu
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Interesting point, have to see if continues as the season progresses.

    Unmarked CDMs are scoring waaay more goals so far this season than normal.

     
  2. Father Ted

    Father Ted BigSoccer Supporter

    Manchester United, Galway United, New York Red Bulls
    Nov 2, 2001
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    Upcoming schedule until the next international break:

    Sun Oct 19: Liverpool A
    Sat Oct 25: Brighton H
    Sat Nov 1: Nottingham Forest A
    Sat Nov 8 Tottenham Hotspur A

    3 away and 1 home. Our away record is poor, this season lost 2 and drawn 1 so far. Our last away win in the Prem was in March and that was against Leicester.

    Any predictions? My quess: beat Brighton, draw Forest and lose to Liverpool and Spurs. 4 points from 12.
     
  3. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

    Staff Member

    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    The Caverns of Cold
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
    https://www.skysports.com/football/...-latest-on-deals-signings-loans-and-contracts
     
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  4. JayBoy

    JayBoy Member

    Jan 13, 2008
    Lewisham, S. London
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
  5. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    The Caverns of Cold
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
    i don't place any real value in some of these stats but i know some people do so sharing for them

    [​IMG]
     
  6. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    Which ones do you place value in?

    Obviously goals. That was a HUGE issue before him.
     
  7. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    The Caverns of Cold
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
    well my feelings on xg are abundantly clear.

    don't place much value in duels won because it is an incomplete story. no idea if the duels lead to turnovers or 2nd duels etc. unlikely given the rank but still.

    generally fine with the rest
     
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  8. Sofabloke

    Sofabloke Member+

    Dec 24, 2003
    Mu
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    I know this is sponsored by The Sun :( but this is the best tactical analysis I've seen of what we are doing in our system, covers;

    - why it is now working better
    - how much improved and key Shaw has been
    - the necessary rotations following man-for-man pressing
    - changes in keeper passing range
    - why the need for subs
    - the necessary CB "bingo" on subs (vs constant berating from the likes on Gaz Neville on why Amorim changing the back 3)
    - how WBs are covering during man-for-man press

    etc. etc.

     
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  9. SingleMaltGuy

    SingleMaltGuy New Member

    Manchester United
    United States
    Feb 8, 2019
    Agreed! I was surprised by the quality of their work and it seems to make sense.
     
  10. Sofabloke

    Sofabloke Member+

    Dec 24, 2003
    Mu
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Saw this quote;

    Sums up our biggest current issue - we are ok when we are the counter-attacking side and there is space against unset defences. When teams sit in an organised low-block and there is no space we struggle.

    We need to better utilize and service our #9 Sesko and also changeup the midfielders and forwards (no subs midfield or attack was crazy today). Could have tried Mount, Mainoo or Zirkzee. Also why not try Maguire advanced at end of games in the Fellaini role?

    Whatever, Amorim has to find something to resolve this issue.
     
  11. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    The Caverns of Cold
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
  12. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

    Staff Member

    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    The Caverns of Cold
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
    Amorim says he's concerned about Šeško's injury. so all of a sudden the Højlund thing looks even less clever if it is indeed bad.

    i said earlier in the transfer thread United were one injury away from watching Zirkzee struggle at 9 again.

    given how things have gone i'll update that to one injury away from Mount being a regular starter although he's done OK so far.

    either that or one injury away from losing everything Cunha brings as a 10.

    hopefully Šeško is OK
     
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  13. Sofabloke

    Sofabloke Member+

    Dec 24, 2003
    Mu
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Some credit to Casemiro and Shaw.

    Cas is key this season to making the Amorim Bruno pivot work (in so far as it can) and it shows whenever anyone else plays alongside Bruno in the pivot, as seen in the horrendous with / without Casemiro stats given Bruno a lock at pivot under Amorim it seems.

    Shaw made some key defensive interceptions yesterday. Since the City game where he was a wet blanket he has stepped up his intensity (though as with the rest of the team only at times, more on that below).

    Bruno still a disappointment to me and not helped by where he is playing. The stats from the game at the weekend will show he had two assists, but that was only because they were both set-pieces where everyone gets to push up - so not a function of him playing deeper as a pivot.

    I don't think it is any coincidence that we are all over the place with either poor intensity / low energy halves or good ones. Cas is 34 soon, Bruno is 31, Shaw is 30 and we have players like Mount who famously can't play 90 minutes. Wing-back is also a high energy role.

    So physically we don't have players or depth to have consistent high-energy halves sadly it seems, even with one game a week. Watching us when we are low-energy like first half at the weekend is an effing grind :rolleyes:
     
  14. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    The Caverns of Cold
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
    i advocated for Amorim but i an starting to have serious questions about what he's doing now.

    he's made a conscious decision to persevere with 3-4-2-1.

    he's also made a conscious decision to use Fernandes, Diallo and others in sub optimal roles.

    he asked for more time with players and a preseason and is still producing this despite having the most time he'll ever get to prep between games.

    what really annoys me is that him and the team came out preseason talking about how together they were and the mood had lifted and yet still produce the same turgid stuff.

    and during the easiest run of fixtures all season no less.

    i don't see how this gets any better when most of our creativity and threat in Diallo and Mbeumo goes to AFCON
     
  15. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    In all the praise for the season Casemiro is having, he still cant help us build up. Bruno is also guilty of emotional decision-making on the pitch at times, but Casemiro will literally think he's Carrick and try and 40 yard left footed long passes knowing damn well he doesn't have that in his locker.

    We cant control games because we dont have good footballers in the right positions. Casemiro and Ugarte need one or even two players next to them to handle that.
     
  16. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    Yeah and Mount. If the rest of the team were good, you could see where he fits in, but we're not. So him running, pressing and his allegedly cute touches aren't enough.
     
  17. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    One thing I've always said is, its easier to coach defense than offense. Defending is easier than attacking. So it was always going to take forever for our attack to get better.

    But playing long ball in the interim is frustrating.
     
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  18. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    The Caverns of Cold
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
    Amorim was asked quite a few questions about Mainoo in today's presser and he got agitated by them and tried to defend not playing him.

    but again, he's the one that blocked the loan and said he has "big plans for Kobbie" and has done nothing with him since.

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    regardless, the next game is Wolves. doesn't matter if it is home or away if we can't get it done there then i am fine calling it a day there.

    i try to be patient with managers but they need to earn their stay too. no point being stuck in a cycle of a catastrophic result every 7-10 games mixed in with mediocrity
     
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  19. Chaz Striker

    Chaz Striker Member+

    Jul 26, 2005
    Denver
    Make it worth watching or ******** off.
     
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  20. Sofabloke

    Sofabloke Member+

    Dec 24, 2003
    Mu
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Coaching young players is key at our club (esp if rebuild is targeting younger players).

    Seeing Amorim completely stall Mainoo progress and seeing key players like Dorgu and Yoro looking worse rather than better of late is a real concern.

    Mbeumo and Cunha are also looking worse of late after starting brightly for us.

    Some legit questions to be asked over Amorim man-management. Of younger players especially.

    Coaching a mechanical system will only get you so far ...
     
  21. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

    Staff Member

    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    The Caverns of Cold
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
    just a few things:

    at this moment we are the 3rd highest scorers in the league with 26, 2 behind Arsenal.

    at this moment we are also 11th defensively with 22 conceded. this is the real issue.

    which is why i cannot understand the push back on this forum when i said get Guéhi in.

    for all our supposed massive xG, Casemiro's resurgence and de Ligt's promising performances etc. we are almost at a 1:1 ratio for scoring vs conceding. you cannot build anything useful with that.

    goal difference of +4 for now.

    obviously there are quite a few other issues, like no one being optimised in this system at the moment. maybe only Mbeumo can be used to make that argument. MAYBE.

    also not clear what the major advantage of this system is to date. you'd think with 3 centre backs we'd be more solid defensively but that isn't the case. there is no obvious advantage anywhere else either.

    Amorim still has a LOT to do to convince
     
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  22. Chaz Striker

    Chaz Striker Member+

    Jul 26, 2005
    Denver
    We have to get rid of Bruno for any real growth to happen.
     
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  23. Anonymous_United

    Manchester United
    Brazil
    Jul 13, 2018
    Quite surprised we are 3rd in goal scoring.
     
  24. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    Most of the goals we've conceded this season came with the other two flop GK's throwing our games. Guehi is good, and I'd take him considering the price tag lol, but if we miss out on him, there's a lot of potential and just overall good CB's around. That was my pushback. Missing out on Guehi isnt like us missing out on Ronaldinho or Obi Mikel or Alan Shearer.


    Last year, our goal difference was negative iirc. So while I agree our defense can improve, we are clearly building something and things are getting better.

    I dont think there is a major advantage over any other system. But weve tried other systems and looked almost as bad as last season. The only reason Im not complaining too hard is because Im backing Amorim and its his system.
     
  25. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

    Staff Member

    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    The Caverns of Cold
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
    https://www.skysports.com/football/...-latest-on-deals-signings-loans-and-contracts
     

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