The 2024 MLS TV thread

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by superdave, Jan 7, 2024.

  1. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Nice try L W Johnson but MLS has been on Fox and FS1 all year.
     
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  2. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Do Fox and FS1 know this?
     
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  3. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Well they finally remembered enough to send Jenny Taft to the final
     
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  4. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I posted this in another thread about this topic. This was in response to MLS being difficult find now that it is on Apple:

    MLS games were always difficult to find. The kickoff times on ESPN and Fox were not consistent week to week, and often were preempted by coverage for a prior event over running their time slot.

    The one thing that slightly hurts MLS is the lack of games on TV in the local markets. Though how much viewership those games actually got has been a mystery. Judging by how most local TV "deals" were break even propositions (Galaxy, Seattle, and LAFC being a few exceptions), I'm guessing the games didn't pull huge ratings or advertising numbers.

    Currently there are usually up to SIX games a week that are NOT behind the Season pass Subscription paywall. The Apple TV App is available on nearly all streaming devices.....

    MLS does have a marketing and storytelling problem. The marketing is largely ineffective, and the storytelling either sucks or is non-existent. The league needs to seriously consider poaching some of the TV producers from NBC Sports and WWE. NBC Sports makes the average viewer CARE about obscure Olympic sports every two years (Winter and Summer Games). They've gotten people to care about the Premier League. This is the missing piece of the puzzle for MLS.

    MLS has great stadiums, with a unique (to US Sports) in game atmosphere, great facilities, academies, competitive games, their own TV channel (that significantly lacks non-gameday content), and MLS is around for 11 months out of the year, etc. Why aren't more people tuning in? That's the multi-million dollar question that has yet to be answered/solved.
     
  5. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's right. Soccer fans are famously not used to having to go to streaming outlets like Peacock (EPL), Paramount (EFL, Serie A), or ESPN+ (La Liga, Bundesliga, FA Cup) to watch games.

    Wait, what was his point again?
     
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  6. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What do you use to post tweets with because they never come up when I look?
     
  7. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's a random bug.

    Normally you post them using insert media.
     
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  8. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Over the last month or so I've gotten a bit interested in F1. I was in Vegas at the Venetian/Palazzo for a work conference the week before the Las Vegas Grand Prix and saw a bunch of the setup for the race, so when I got home I watched it the next weekend. As I look more into it the general suggestion for "how to get into F1" is to watch a bunch of streaming stuff, particularly on YouTube.

    F1 is one of the fastest growing leagues/sports right now and at least in this country the main way to "get into it" seems to be streaming. And I don't see a whole lot of people complaining about that. There might be a lesson there...
     
  9. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Let me tell you a secret. Formula 1 works like this: cars race around a set course for a set number of laps and the car that finishes first wins, and some other cars also get points. There, now you can get into it. No streaming needed, races are on ESPN.
     
  10. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you have a sub to Netflix, binge watch Drive to Survive. It's by the production company Box to Box, who MLS has been working with on a similar docu series (yet to be released).
     
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  11. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    And those leagues aren’t blamed for their decisions. I used to watch a decent amount of the Bundesliga until it went to ESPN+. I never hear “how could they abandon cable like that?”
     
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  12. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #1637 jaykoz3, Dec 12, 2024
    Last edited: Dec 12, 2024
    Just wait. Comcast is going to spin off most of their NBC Universal Cable channels (USA, Golf, etc. Basically all but Bravo), when that happens where does everyone expect the bulk of the EPL games and content to be shown????

    But Peacock is included for FREE with my Cable Subscription that I PAY $100+ every month for!!! That also increases in price every year, and that price increase mostly goes to paying for Peacock...... and Ironically, the channels that Comcast spins off will likely still be on your sub, but will now cost more and factor into your yearly price increase while also not having the same content as before....
     
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  13. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Let me tell you a secret. The game is played for a set number of minutes, players put the ball into the net, and the team that does it the most wins. There, now you get it. No forums needed, you can watch the games on Apple and stop bothering us with your borderline troll posts.
     
  14. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You're so naive.
     
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  15. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Yes, that's all you need to know about soccer as well, I agree. Nuance is something you pick up by watching. I am not disagreeing with your point, only your delivery because you really do not need any streaming for F1.
     
  16. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Kinda. Time shifting is a very real thing for F1 fans.
     
  17. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For now........

    Rumors have been out there about a certain streaming service bidding on the global broadcast rights to F1.....
     
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  18. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    $2 billion is a lot of money.
     
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  19. jimmyodonnell

    jimmyodonnell Member

    May 1, 2003

    I'd love to see such a series by Box to Box featuring MLS. I watched early seasons of Drive to Survive but I never watched the races (no ESPN) so I kinda left it behind.

    On the other hand, I watch their Tour de France series over and over and over, both seasons, several times through. I'm not sure it draws many new fans to cycling, but it's great if you have an unhealthy appetite for it already.
     
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  20. NFLPatriot

    NFLPatriot Member+

    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  21. AZUL GALAXY

    AZUL GALAXY Member

    Aug 28, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CDSC Cruz Azul
    427,000 plus 2 mill MLS SEASON PASS subscribers even they watch it or not, at list I know about a family the saw the game in Mexico City on Apple TV something that is not possible on CBS, so the world wide potential is bigger for MLS.
     
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  22. NorthBank

    NorthBank Moderator
    Staff Member

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I’ve found that if I refresh the page once or twice the embedded tweets usually show up.
     
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  23. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    The two million number was last season when we had free t-mobile...
     
  24. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It was mentioned this year in an interview Garber did that they have over two million subscribers and are averaging over a million people watching all games over each weekend. Bringing in record sponsorship is probably a sign that advertisers are happy with the setup.
     
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  25. Jeremy Goodwin

    Jeremy Goodwin Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Feb 16, 1999
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Formula 1 is a deeply storyline and personality driven phenomenon. I don't partake myself, but the popularity has fairly little to do with the driving part for lots of people.
     
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