The 2024 MLS TV thread

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by superdave, Jan 7, 2024.

  1. asoc

    asoc Member+

    Sep 28, 2007
    Tacoma
    You mean New Pennsylvania.
     
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  2. NorthBank

    NorthBank Moderator
    Staff Member

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    OK OK. Of course I well know who’s “the best team the world has ever seen” but WTF?!
     
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  3. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Gooners using VPNs.
     
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  4. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    Most viewed but then the people click away when they realize that’s not the arsenal they’re looking for.
     
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  5. NorthBank

    NorthBank Moderator
    Staff Member

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That map seems highly suspect. Great example of graphical memes with minimal source attribution. If it was April 1st I would dismiss it out of hand. Actually I think I will do that anyway. NH & Colorado... hello?
     
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  6. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There's a noticeable contingent of Palace fans in C38, so Colorado checks out
     
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  7. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    And/or are just very, very insecure and need constant validation, so they obsessively check and recheck the interwebs for "news" about their team. :eek::eek:;)
     
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  8. NorthBank

    NorthBank Moderator
    Staff Member

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    OK. But there are more Palace fans in CO than Liverpool, Man Utd, Chelsea, City, Arsenal?? That just seems very surprising. Palace are (no offense) a much smaller team, both in England and worldwide.
     
  9. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Racing Louisville? Did someone's cat sit on he F5 key?

    We need some parameters.
     
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  10. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    1866904163696955496 is not a valid tweet id
     
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  11. PJ234

    PJ234 Member

    DC united
    United States
    Oct 17, 2021
    NWSL has a better TV deal than MLS.
     
  12. NorthBank

    NorthBank Moderator
    Staff Member

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    +10 for getting this thread BACK ON TRACK! :D
     
  13. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    NWSL is getting $250M+ a year for their broadcast rights? NWSL has dedicated channels and kickoff times every week in their broadcast deal?
     
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  14. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think MLS fans have forgotten that there are games on Fox, even in this thread.
     
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  15. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think Fox has forgotten that they have MLS matches :confused:
     
  16. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Anti MLS people are celebrating this massive viewership drop, but we know that the Galaxy's average viewership in L.A. is just around... 0 (too low to be measured) and I would assume (thought I really don't know) similar for Red Bulls. These are the biggest market teams with relatively tiny fanbases. Before this absolute DISASTER the lowest rating was 857k in 2,000. Assuming 0 watched on Apple TV, we now halved our lowest rating. Existential.
     
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  17. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Probably it's mostly a demonstration of the effect of playing opposite the SEC championship instead of a week later as it was last year. (Thus one of the big motivations for considering a schedule flip.) And of course it's an incomplete story with the black hole of Apple viewership data.
     
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  18. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yep disaster. Meanwhile we were all watching on Apple.
     
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  19. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Yes all 10 of us watched on Apple.
     
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  20. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The number on FOX isn't really that relevant since FOX isn't paying much for the broadcast. This all comes down to 2027 and what happens next. Garber did an interesting interview almost a month ago talking about revenue, Apple, LC and world football. Worth the watch as I think you get some hints about the future. One thing that caught my attention was things they might not have gotten right like low salary budget.
     
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  21. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think since 2008 the salary budget (including allocation money minus DPs) has increased about 4 fold while the average valuation has increased 13.5 fold.

    Operating revenue isn't great though it may not include non-soccer specific activities but my point is the owners have deep pockets.

    Hopefully any increase in salaries won't be reflected in higher ticket prices (we know it will).
     
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  22. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    Disappointing but not a disaster. Fox is an afterthought in this whole deal. If it’s a disaster it would be because of the Apple numbers, which we won’t know about unless drastic changes are made next season.

    For me personally it was the most interesting final in years but from a neutral perspective Red Bulls aren’t a draw at all and the Galaxy aren’t the trendsetters anymore even with a great team. At least the number is pretty much guaranteed to go up next year—unless the final is two teams with even less hype. I’m rooting for Chicago vs. San Jose.
     
  23. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    This is, quite likely, the most interesting comment about MLS I have read in years.

    I have been thinking about the difference between valuation and salary, but never really articulated it.

    Thanks, PB.
     
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  24. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    1867219445057569156 is not a valid tweet id


    Sounds simple, yet may be more complicated than that.
     
  25. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    MLS lost the war! Does pro/rel begin tomorrow or next week?
     

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