The 2024 MLS TV thread

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by superdave, Jan 7, 2024.

  1. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    1841956908762333478 is not a valid tweet id

    Seems like complete bs by a factor of at least 20.
     
  2. AZUL GALAXY

    AZUL GALAXY Member

    Aug 28, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CDSC Cruz Azul
    I believe it, but probably includes highlights and social media, just in MLS YOU TUBE highlights has
    almost 1.6 million views
     
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  3. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah it's views not live viewers.

    The various YouTube videos I looked up combined to 4 million, excluding the shorts.
     
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  4. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My honest answer is, that’s a brilliant idea, but I’m 99% sure FIFA won’t allow it. They’d have to lobby FIFA first.

    FIFA is very, very protective of everything on the field.
     
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  5. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Funny how the clowns on X are discussing it as if its a plausible TV rating.
     
  6. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Goal line tech and auto offsides are more necessary than an extra camera or two.
     
  7. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Stop doing this. First, even if true, it is a complete non issue, unless you’re getting into these big twitter fights and need backup.

    Second, it’s true only in the sense that you can find any damn opinion under the sun if you spend too much time on social media.
     
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  8. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    OK, but those are also way more expensive and high-tech to implement. Sticking basic, remote-controlled cameras behind the goals would not be IMHO.
     
  9. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't see why FIFA would interfere with whatever tech TV companies decide to apply.
     
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  10. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Because a camera inside the post would alter the properties of the post and therefore it would alter how the ball rebounds off the post.
     
  11. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    I wonder if NBA players ever complained about the camera they had under the floor in the post for a short while.
     
  12. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Like this?
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  13. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Have you actually seen how each of MLS' stadiums are built??? Only a handful; have a second deck, which means in order to place a camera behind the goals, they'd either have to displace/disrupt existing seating, or place them further away (giving them a worse camera angle).

    It's not nearly as simple, or as inexpensive as some would like to believe.
     
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  14. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For example earlier this season we (C38) got asked to take a flag down we always have on one of the poles in our section because whatever the camera configuration was that night it was interfering. And that camera sits on the concourse at the top of our section behind the goal. There is no other place to put another camera unless you're going to put it on top of the bar behind that camera.
     
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  15. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Same with Subaru Park which doesn't have a steep gradient. San Jose's park has an open end with a bar. Where/how do you place a camera in Orlando City's Wall? Just as a few examples.

    I'm willing to bet that MLS owners are way more inclined to make modifications to add premium seating way way way before they agree to spend money to accommodate a couple of extra cameras.
     
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  16. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Seems like it’s more than a handful. But in any case why not just install them now in the stadia where it’s easy and figure out the rest as we go. In some cases they might even be able to mount them on a pole behind the goal, or put them on the concourse? Anything is better than nothing. Even if not in 100% of venues.
     
  17. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    At Notts County the behind goal camera goes here. Fortunately we're not on national TV very often but the club has stopped selling season tickets in this area.
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  18. FoxBoro 143

    FoxBoro 143 Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Season pass camera coverage is terrible. They made a deliberate decision to use less cameras every match. They also decided to auction off the director role to kids every match, so they can no longer show a replay of key plays, not that they ever have the camera angle anyway.

    I'm A broken record, but the season pass coverage is just terrible all around. Great video quality, everything else sucks.
     
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  19. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #1394 jaykoz3, Oct 5, 2024
    Last edited: Oct 5, 2024
    Even though this article is about college football, it highlights some key points where MLS continues to struggle with regards to TV.

    SEC, Big Ten moving closer to taking their college football ball home and making billions

    https://www.yahoo.com/sports/sec-big-ten-moving-closer-100758616.html

    "Television consumers of football want big games and big moments and big stories. Advertisers who pay the bills want the same.

    They want Georgia vs. Alabama and Ohio State vs. Oregon and Michigan vs. Texas. They don’t want Alabama vs. Western Kentucky or Ohio State vs. Marshall."

    This perfectly sums up American Sports TV viewing habits. This is why we see the same handful of NBA teams on national TV games, ditto with MLB. It's why Monday Night Football ratings started to slide, and why NBC and the NFL worked out the flex scheduling for late season matchups to televise. The highest rated soccer matches in the US year over year almost always involve one of the following teams: Manchester United, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Manchester City, Barcelona, Real Madrid, Club America, Chivas.

    MLS simply doesn't have matchups that get the juices of all sports fans going. It's why signing Messi was/is so huge for the league. Like it or not, he's appointment viewing. It's why having star players in the LA, and NY markets are crucial.
     
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  20. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is not America specific. How many English viewers would watch Bournemouth against Brentford live? Not many I suggest.
     
  21. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As the playoffs approach I'd like to drop in that the best of 3 first round is dumb.
     
  22. carnifex2005

    carnifex2005 Member+

    Jul 1, 2008
    Club:
    Vancouver Whitecaps
    Big news in the TV world that may affect MLS coverage as well. Unknown if MLS coverage will be included as yet or in the future.

    Amazon and Apple Strike Deal to Bring Apple TV+ to Prime Video
    The deal will bring the Apple streaming service and its content to the Prime Video ecosystem as an add-on subscription, joining Max, Paramount+ and other streaming options.
     
  23. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Since Apple TV+ and MLS Season Pass are two different packages both offered through Apple TV I would assume this has no immediate impact on MLS.

    Now Apple and Amazon could strike a deal to offer Season Pass through Amazon alongside Apple TV+, but that hasn't happened yet based on this announcement.
     
  24. FoxBoro 143

    FoxBoro 143 Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is that really a big deal at all?
     
  25. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hopefully it means I'll be able to get MLS in the Prime App rather than a browser.
     

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