The 2024 MLS TV thread

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by superdave, Jan 7, 2024.

  1. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Paul you're getting authentic sporting competition with that #33/month!!! The highs and lows, drama of Promotion and relegation battles!!!! It's not that plastic MLS experience on Apple for $99 for a season!!!

    :D

    In all seriousness though, Notts is your club. You grew up supporting them. Difficult to put a price on that.
     
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  2. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Given that our season was over weeks ago I'm not renewing just yet.
     
  3. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And there's very little season left!

    Though your not jumping at paying $33 to watch their final month does tell me something about your commitment. ;)
     
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  4. usadcu

    usadcu Member

    Aug 25, 2005
    Alexandria, VA
    Goff is also posting on BlueSky
     
  5. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Looks like afternoon Sunday games on Fox are getting some audience tuning in even with Apple season pass also showing the same games.
     
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  6. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
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  7. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What's this have to do with MLS and TV?
     
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  8. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    That last one is really really low for the main Fox channel. Of course they also spend very little on the games so they might be ok with it.
     
  9. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's a comparison. Just putting into context just how small viewership is for MLS even when it is on network TV.
     
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  10. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    WNBA is having a once in a lifetime moment though. Might as well compare to the World Cup.
     
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  11. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Messi to MLS is a once in a lifetime moment, no?
     
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  12. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Yup but his debut wasn't on Fox. It did do surprisingly poor on Univision, but brought in over a million paid subscriptions.
     
  13. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    At 36 I would say no but definitely a huge impact for pushing a league that was on the rise already possibly even higher. For me Beckham was bigger because MLS was more minor league infrastructure wise, compared to today when almost every team has state of the art facilities with stadium, academy and training center. Years later you might say Beckham has been involved in the two biggest moments in the league's history.
     
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  14. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think Messi is bigger. Beckham was a star but he was never a top 10 global player. I also don't think the American public was as aware of what players meant to the game in 2007. But Beckham was the right player at the right time. And of course he brought about the Beckham rule.

    Messi is a phenomenon that transgresses sports. He's a Michael Jordan or Tiger Woods. And the American public is a lot but knowledgeable. You only have to look at the attendances and how much people are willing to pay.

    Beckham's first game in KC attracted 26,211.
     
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  15. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    I guess that if they decided to have Clark's first WNBA game at Lucas Oil it would sell out at $200+ each. Americans like basketball stars (women included) more than soccer stars.
     
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  16. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What does that have to do with Messi v Beckham?
     
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  17. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Can you not scroll up and see what sparked this whole discussion in the first place?
     
  18. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You're making my point in a way. Beckham opened the door for MLS and made it more mainstream. Messi has taken advantage of that open door that Beckham opened for him..... Literally by bringing him to Miami.
     
  19. eagercolin

    eagercolin Member

    Metro
    United States
    Aug 25, 2017
    Buffalo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The difference between the boosts provided by Clark and Messi is that nobody thinks of watching Messi as doing a good deed or eating their vegetables. Lots of people consider women's sports a good thing and are happy to participate in a shared spectacle that supports that good idea, but relatively few of them are actually interested in spending money to watch a mundane midseason game on some random Tuesday night. They aren't really fans of basketball (or soccer, or gymnastics, or whatever) so much as fans of an ideal that can be celebrated on a high profile stage every so often.
     
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  20. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's part of it but there is also the curiosity factor of how good is she and eventually some people will watch a mid-season game because they became fans. Same with Messi and Beckham, but my point, Beckham like Clark are starting from a point that isn't as mainstream, they are building a fan base that grows the sport/league for the future. 26K was mentioned for Beckham compared to 72K but back then it was a 12 team league with about 15,500 average attendance much like the WNBA is now. You might say it's a good deed but I'm old enough to remember being ridiculed for liking soccer. I don't think the average fan thinks it's a good deed but is she really that good just like any player in any sport. Messi is thought of as one of the greatest of all time, quite different when he comes to a more seasoned league to play at the end of his career.
     
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  21. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    True.
     
  22. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  23. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  24. AeroNaught

    AeroNaught Member+

    Atlanta United
    Feb 14, 2007
    Birmingham, AL
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They don't explicitly say (perhaps due to the writer not being familiar with soccer), but context clues like new tournament/starting next year/held in the US seem to point to the Club World Cup.
     
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  25. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    FIFA calls it "the inaugural 32-team edition of the Club World Cup".
     
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