The 2024 Election Tweet (X) Thread

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  1. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
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    Chicago Red Stars
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    United States
    Not election, but polling


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  2. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
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    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
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  3. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
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    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
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    DC United
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    United States
    Democrats need to fold their tents on this and start pushing for a mandatory national ID.
     
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  4. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
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    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Republicans don’t want that though.

    Or at least they didn’t a couple years ago.
     
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  5. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
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    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
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    DC United
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    United States
    I know. And we know why.
     
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  6. Funkfoot

    Funkfoot Member+

    May 18, 2002
    New Orleans, LA
    I've always said, go ahead and require ID but make the ID free of charge and easy to obtain.
     
  7. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The reason it won’t happen is that if adults have an ID card, it will take at most several nanoseconds for a bill to be proposed making the ID a requirement to get hired. And then the business lobby will lose their shit.

    On this issue, Republicans are practicing anticipatory obedience.
     
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  8. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
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    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
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    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Absolutely; but also make it required like in many other countries.

    The real problem with Voter ID is that it ties the right to vote to something you have no right to; that's a dangerous precedent.
     
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  9. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
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    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
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    DC United
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    United States
    Of course.

    I'm saying that the Democrats need to call their bluff. Voter ID was always a wedge issue, so quit dancing around it.
     
  10. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
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    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    If Kamala doesn’t explain thoroughly how she plans to tame inflation, I will have no choice but to vote for Trump for the third time.

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  11. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
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    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
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  12. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
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    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A plan in a picture

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  13. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If y’all actually know any Republicans, and try to talk Trump with them, the thing I notice is they don’t see any connection between what he says campaigning and legislation or policy.
     
  14. Val1

    Val1 Member+

    Arsenal
    Mar 12, 2004
    MD's Eastern Shore
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I agree 100%.

    I think it makes political sense in that conservatives do have a winnable issue re the laxness of voter rolls. Dems ought to be able to nullify that with pushing a national ID. Plus, if it's national, an ID isn't an DMV issue anymore, and across the six states that I've lived in, there is no more soul-crushing collision with the bureaucracy than the DMV.

    Plus, Real ID doesn't work very well. I've had to help several people move from Delaware to Maryland and vice versa and those two states' computers do not connect. There's always something. And I got a double dose of that the past couple of days working as a provisional ballot judge for early voting. I've heard some real tales about people struggling to prove their Maryland residence.

    And as you said later, proving identity shouldn't be an inherent function of driving. I agree.
     
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  15. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    That lack of connection between what the candidate says and what actual policy he advocates is traditionally called "lying."

    Somehow, not so in Trump's case.
     
  16. Smurfquake

    Smurfquake Moderator
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    Aug 8, 2000
    San Carlos, CA
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't agree that the voter rolls are lax. This is a Republican talking point which we don't need to accept. In every state that I've registered to vote (which is now up to two), I needed to prove my citizenship in order to register to vote. I don't know what's going on in these states that somehow get their voter rolls full of noncitizens (at least according to the Republicans who claim that the voter rolls are full of noncitizens that need to be purged), but the time to verify citizenship is when the person is registering to vote.

    Republican run states that have recently done big purges of the voter rolls in order to get "noncitizens" off - Florida, Texas and Virginia - are either incompetent when they are registering people to vote, or they do check citizenship when registering people to vote and are purging people who are very likely to be valid voters. Virginia basically admitted this - the people they're purging were people who went to the DMV and didn't check the "I am a US Citizen box and wish to register to vote" on the DMV form. If I'm at the DMV and I'm already registered to vote, I'm not gonna check that box because I don't want to register to vote again - I'm already registered - but Youngkin is saying that people who don't check that box need to be purged from the voter rolls. And the ********ing Supreme Court agrees with him!

    Finally, the number of people they're unregistering dwarfs the number of votes cast fraudulently, by orders of magnitude. The real voter fraud is Republicans suppressing the vote through shenanigans like this.
     
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  17. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
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    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
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    DC United
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    United States
    Yet the "reasonable" ones will deflect criticism of what he says with "policy not personality" so please square that circle.
     
  18. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
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    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
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  19. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is said so often as a cliche that it must ultimately be true, but in NC, I’ve had good experiences except when taking my kids for their learners permits and DLs. And even those weren’t truly atrocious, just meh.
     
  20. Smurfquake

    Smurfquake Moderator
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    Aug 8, 2000
    San Carlos, CA
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I didn't want to get in to the "DMV sucks" talking points, but in two states over the last couple of years, the DMV hasn't been horrible. California was OK getting my kid his permit and then license. Nevada was really pretty good getting my own license (and registering to vote). It's more chaotic than a lot of other interactions (e.g. going to the bank) because there are so many services that the DMV is somehow expected to provide. I suspect that in red states there's a self fulfilling prophecy that government sucks, so we're going to underfund it, and then point at how bad the service is as an example of how government sucks.
     
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  21. Funkfoot

    Funkfoot Member+

    May 18, 2002
    New Orleans, LA
    The DMV doesn't suck here.

    It's called the OMV, and that sucks.

    For most things, you can go to a private company to do what you need. They charge money, but don't suck. They don't register you to vote.
     
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  22. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
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    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
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  23. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
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    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
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  24. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
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    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
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  25. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
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    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
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