The 2022 MLS TV thread

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  1. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Nobody uses Twitter. 21% of adults in the US have accounts. Globally just over 200 million people are daily users of Twitter, and just over 400 million use it at least once a month. The sway certain professions (news, sports, marketing) have allowed the tiny user base to have has been completely unwarranted and any move to squelch the influence of that cesspool will be nothing but a positive.

    7% of internet users are on Twitter at least once a month.
     
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  2. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is all because of Elon's ego.....and the fact he opened up his big mouth and said he'd buy Twitter. Then he entered into a deal hastily, which he then unsuccessfully attempted to get out of. He overpaid for a turd, and has since doubled down on that turd.

    His feud with Apple is more about them pulling back their adverting spend on Twitter....which was the highest of all of their advertisers.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-63788437

    Musk is going to declare bankruptcy for Twitter to protect his purchase, or what's left of it. If he can throw some shade on other Tech companies on his way down he's going to do it. He's said similar things towards Google, and their Google Play Store.
     
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  3. AZUL GALAXY

    AZUL GALAXY Member

    Aug 28, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CDSC Cruz Azul
    I heard on Fútbol Americas podcast from ESPN+
    that Argentina vs Mexico tv ratings

    8.9 millions on Telemundo

    Over 40 millions in Mexico

    do you have numbers to add to this game ?
     
  4. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    I only remember that one - and its now the most watched soccer game in Spanish in history in the USA.
     
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  5. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    For fear of getting too positive... how much damage will the fact that the most watched soccer match of all time in the US ended 0-0 do to the game's popularity?
     
  6. SetPeace

    SetPeace Member+

    Jun 22, 2004
    SC Illinois
    Club:
    Torquay United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think it will matter to the die-hard fans. It hurts with casual fans, probably, but most people didn't watch the game because they don't like the sport in the first place; never mind that Monday saw two thrillers that ended 3-3 and 3-2.

    Overall, this World Cup has been tough to watch for the avid and casual fan. 17 of the 32 games in the first two match days were scoreless at halftime, and the quality of play in many of those scoreless halves left a lot to be desired.
     
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  7. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    And the first game on most days has started at 5a ET/2a PT. I haven't caught a single minute of any of those games live.
     
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  8. NaBUru38

    NaBUru38 Member+

    Mar 8, 2016
    Las Canteras, Uruguay
    Club:
    Club Nacional de Football
    Of the seven early matches, only two featured an Americas team (ARG-SAU and JPN-CRO).
     
  9. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There might be other social networks but Twitter is by far the biggest when it comes to engagement. This platform use to be the Twitter of soccer. I hate to say but I don't think it's ego but the progressive agenda having to deal with free speech. If it's Apple trying to convince its something else they never had a problem with all the porn on the platform so....
     
  10. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My point is kicking off a new way to view the league and plenty of fans do engage on Twitter. Case in point....
     
  11. mbar

    mbar Member+

    Apr 30, 1999
    Los Angeles, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Isn't Apple exercising free speech in not wanting its advertising to appear on a website that has a growing amount of offensive (hate in particular) activity? Isn't that free speech for Apple to be able to choose what to do with their own business?

    I don't understand how Twitter is the victim here.
     
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  12. Chesco United

    Chesco United Member+

    DC United
    Jun 24, 2001
    Chester County, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Kinzinger said he was done with soccer after the England game.
     
  13. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Twitter isn't the victim. Too many people don't seem to grasp that free speech is literally just about government silencing dissenting opinions and has absolutely no bearing on private enterprise. If Apple doesn't want the far right and far left (which is a large portion of Twitter) echo chambers behaving in the most vitriolic ways possible in their app store, then they have every right to not allow it.
     
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  14. PTFC in KCMO

    PTFC in KCMO Member+

    Aug 12, 2012
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    You are free to do and say what you want. You are not free of the consequences of what you do and say.

    That is the problem. People are getting mad for doing and saying things then getting called out for their shit.
     
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  15. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    it isn't twitter. It is Elon. Elon is always the victim.
     
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  16. mbar

    mbar Member+

    Apr 30, 1999
    Los Angeles, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    he'll be back
     
  17. midfielder467

    midfielder467 Member

    Jul 20, 2014
    Club:
    Central Coast Mariners
    Anyone wanta guess the TV rating for the USA V Iran....

    My guess .... 27 million
     
  18. FoxBoro 143

    FoxBoro 143 Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    18 million total. Slightly less than Friday simply because more people were working.
     
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  19. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #1794 wantmlsphilly, Nov 29, 2022
    Last edited: Nov 29, 2022
    Apple can do what they want, that wasn't my question. My opinion is Apple will lose this war if they get rid of the app. My point was this will hurt the league because Twitter is how fans interact. Plenty of business promote on Twitter for free and I don't think any other social media app will make up for that. Are they using free speech to remove this app off their platform, I would say no. Are they obligated to advertise, no. But Musk framing it this way surely will make people pick sides and if they were exercising free speech they would explain why they are doing what they are doing. I'm not sure what hate speech they are promoting other than not protecting the progressive agenda. For years they stopped a conversation about covid and now we are seeing information come out that was being censored like was it created in a lab coming full circle. Are they free to make this choice absolutely but is it good business? I think will see but it in Google trying to launch a new phone i would let them carry that torch.
     
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  20. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Apple isn't required to carry any apps in its store, particularly if they feel the app is violating their terms of service and/or endanger the users of their phones. Of course, things get a little more complicated with Apple as the only way for an app to get on an Apple phone is for it to be on the apple store. It's a little different with Google as removing an app from the Google store doesn't mean it can't be installed on their phones.

    That being said, Apple has been pretty clear as to why they would remove Twitter from the App store, regardless of what Elon says. It's the same for why they removed Parler.. Twitter fired their moderation staff and part of Apple's ToS is that apps have to moderate their apps to prevent threats of violence and hate speech.

    Additionally, Twitter has a web interface. If the app is removed from the Apple store, Twitter's iphone users can just fire up their phone's web browser and navigate to twitter.com. Twitter would just need to comment out the code on their site that pushes Apple users to the app..
     
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  21. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Apple won't miss a beat without the teeny, tiny world of Twitter. Again, 7% of people who use the internet are MONTHLY Twitter users. That's it. Less than 10% of the people in the world who have internet access use Twitter even once a month. Tons of soccer fans, and tons of MLS fans, don't spend a nanosecond of their life on Twitter. It's a complete non entity.
     
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  22. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I find that hard to believe Twitter is doing this for safety but years of porn some related to child porn was always found on the app. I won't even get into the China connection as that's another story. Truthfully I don't do Apple anyway and don't have Twitter as an app but just use it on a internet browser.
     
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  23. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well if all that's was true, why are they even getting rid of it? Everyone said Trump would go away without Twitter and he is still around.
     
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  24. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Trust me, the PTSD and psychiatric bills of the people who were employed as moderators on Twitter prove your comment wrong... Not to mention the spike in child porn on Twitter that has occurred since Musk fired the moderation staff..

    But, hey, thanks for proving my point that requiring Apple to carry Twitter's app isn't nearly as impactful as Musk and you are claiming.
     
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  25. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Once again that's not my point. Let me make it a little more clear for you.
     
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