The 2021 U-20 Qualifying Thread

Discussion in 'Youth National Teams' started by Peretz48, Mar 18, 2019.

  1. Pl@ymaker

    Pl@ymaker Member+

    Feb 8, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't know why people were so high on him to begin with. He wasn't impressive at the Nike Friendlies, DA games or the U17 World Cup.
     
  2. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    Gomez is actually Bello that can also play defense.
     
  3. David Kerr

    David Kerr Member

    Liverpool
    United States
    Oct 18, 2019
    Not true, Gomez is a much smarter player who thrives off of being technically proficient and smart off the ball movement. Bello is a player who heavily relies off of athleticism and has good enough ball skills to keep up at MLS level. The reason Kobe is so highly regarded is because he is a combination of both...he has the same amount of freak athleticism that Bello has and he is just as good on the ball (if not better) than Gomez.

    Long term Kobe and Gomez are the best LB prospects. If you needed a first choice team right now it would be Kobe and Travian Sousa followed by Bello and then Gomez. As Gomez develops more physically this will change over the next two years, but being the youngest year in a u20 cycle makes a big difference at the start because some kids cant physically keep up yet.
     
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  4. dougtee

    dougtee Member+

    Feb 7, 2007
    bello doesnt look nearly as quick after bulking up, isnt particularly instinctive defending, and gets docked more because atlanta seems like a development black hole imo
     
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  5. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    Kobe isn't fast, and not even close athletically to Bello. Bello can't play defense. Gomez is better than both of them today.
     
  6. David Kerr

    David Kerr Member

    Liverpool
    United States
    Oct 18, 2019
    How much film have you watched on Kobe at left back, and have you watched Gomez in more games than just the Nike Friendlies? I have a feeling your answer would be very different if you did.
     
  7. don Lamb

    don Lamb Member+

    mine
    United States
    Aug 31, 2017
    Kobe's fast
     
  8. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    Plenty of Kobe. Nothing from Gomez, except for those 3 games. Don't need more than that
    https://twitter.com/Watke_
     
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  9. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    Any clips?
     
  10. Pl@ymaker

    Pl@ymaker Member+

    Feb 8, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I like that Gomez scores goals but it would be awesome if he could score goals like this famous left back:
     
  11. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Certainly not. I personally still think you find a spot for him on the roster with the U-20's because he's a very talented player, but I think in his age group, he's been passed by KHF in the last year. There's also Gomez from the year after him.

    It's not often that we produce three LB's of that caliber in a two year span. Being the third best of the three (IMO he's third best) doesn't mean he wouldn't have been the best in a different cycle.
     
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  12. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
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    I think we can find room for Gomez and KHF in the same lineup. Play one at RB and the other at LB. You could also play one of the two as a CM or if you are playing 3 at the back, one can play as a LCB and the other as a LWB. That's if Gomez shows he can keep up playing up a cycle. This is often a problem, no matter the caliber of prospect a player is.
     
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  13. don Lamb

    don Lamb Member+

    mine
    United States
    Aug 31, 2017
    He has made more than a couple of very fast emergency recovery runs inside his own box while playing as a left center back. He shows great quickness, if not tons of top end speed playing as a left back.

    Finding holes in Kobe's game is really hard. You could certainly ding him for his lack of a right foot, but that's about it.

    EDIT: And lack of an aerial game....
     
  14. don Lamb

    don Lamb Member+

    mine
    United States
    Aug 31, 2017
    I know it's not ideal, but I really don't mind Kobe playing as a center back. Gomez/Kobe/Richards/Dest.......... we are cooking.

    EDIT: This is obviously not a team for 2021....
     
  15. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    Recovery runs from the middle are more reaction than top speed. Never seen him going up/down the field the way Bello and Gomez can.
     
  16. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Sousa is a good shout. I can’t believe I forgot to list him. That’s what you get when you try to make a list too quickly. I wouldn’t consider either Bello or Gomez to be locks, so he could definitely factor in. There’s going to be a lot of competition at LB. How times have changed for our YNT’s. Unfortunately, 2004 and 2005 look extremely weak at LB early on, so it’s probably more cyclical than anything. The fact that it’s even cyclical shows a big improvement. LB has always been an issue for us at all levels.
     
  17. ielag

    ielag Member+

    Jul 20, 2010
    Plenty of speed/quickness as he embarrassed West Ham all match.


     
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  18. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm liking that people are arguing over which left back is better. Can't ever remember that happening any cycle. I also don't care which is the best because odds are one is always going to be hurt or missing for some reason and it's just nice to be able to rotate and even game plan because of differing abilities that match perfectly against one opponent while someone else is perfect for another.
     
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  19. ielag

    ielag Member+

    Jul 20, 2010
    Hell, Stuart Ritchie is eligible for this cycle as well and most cycles he’d be a competent LB option.
     
  20. ielag

    ielag Member+

    Jul 20, 2010
    #145 ielag, Nov 20, 2019
    Last edited: Nov 20, 2019
     
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  21. Peretz48

    Peretz48 Member+

    Nov 9, 2003
    Los Angeles
    We need a U20 coach, and quickly. Earnie???
     
  22. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    I don’t like this format. We play a lot of games to accommodate the smaller nations, and then have single elimination games for a few rounds. We could easily draw Mexico, Costa Rica, Canada, Honduras or someone like that in the Round of 16 or Quarterfinals, unless I’m wrong about how those games will be seeded.
     
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  23. ielag

    ielag Member+

    Jul 20, 2010
    The Group winners will likely play one of the 4 minnows that advance from their groups in the R16. It’s the same format as the recent U17 qualifying.

    However, I wish the Caribbean could just be their own confederation like Oceania. These tiny island countries hold too much power in CONCACAF for what they bring to the table.
     
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  24. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    Very skilled and pretty quick.
    Nice. Very skilled and pretty quick. Fast? Can't see here.
     
  25. Thundering165

    Thundering165 Member+

    North Carolina FC
    United States
    May 1, 2017
    Raleigh
    Mexico, the USA, and Costa Rica should really try to join CONMEBOL. Until changes are made we’re all getting held back by a weak federation.
     

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