The 2019 Table :: Magic Numbers, Tragic Numbers & Other Doubtful Digits

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by Knave, Aug 9, 2019.

  1. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    This toast tastes funny.
     
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  2. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Did something get all fercockt ...
     
  3. El-ahrairah

    El-ahrairah Member+

    Sep 20, 2004
    Wanker County
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That just sounds wrong.

    And not to be too pedantic, but I think it's spelled "vercockt". like "verdamnt".



    Whenever I heard "schneller" or "verdamnt", I think of this movie.
     
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  4. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Since it's Yiddish, it's actually spelled with Hebrew letters. Fercockt is the most common transliteration.
     
  5. Draghignazzo

    Draghignazzo Member+

    Feb 24, 2007
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    This explains everything.

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  6. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So would this also be the place to open discussion of the race for the Anthony Precourt Memorial Wooden Spoon?

    Seems like very similar metrics reversed in a sort of toast-stuck-to-a-kitteh kind of way could be applied to the bottom of the table as well as the top.

    For example, it appears to someone who cant count to 21 without dropping his pants that LAFC has been mathematically eliminated from contention for the APMWS.

    Ironically, it would appear that the team he and Don conspired for so long to destroy is in fact well within range although FCC would seem to be the favorite.
     
  7. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
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    Notes

    There are games 5 days in a row! I guess I'll do a quick update now.
     
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  8. SetPeace

    SetPeace Member+

    Jun 22, 2004
    SC Illinois
    Club:
    Torquay United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think it's reasonably safe to believe Cincinnati has the best chance to cop the Wooden Spoon this season. What will be fun to watch is which team will take 2nd worst in MLS...Columbus, Vancouver, Colorado. What should they get? Maybe a Rubber Spatula?
     
  9. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    Anybody have available the record for best away ppg? I'm guessing that LAFC is going to break that record too.

    However, there have to have been some teams over the years with close-to-perfect home records. (I think RSL was one of them in the early 2010's.) Maybe they'll have the highest ppg?
     
  10. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The record is the 1998 Galaxy, with 37 points in 16 games, 2.31 ppg. That was under shootout rules, but that doesn't really matter as they didn't lose any points in away shootouts. The best LAFC can achieve this year is 36 points in 17 games, so they can't break the record by raw point total nor ppg.

    For the post-shootout, era, unless I'm missing someone, the record is shared by three teams at 1.88, 32 points in 17 games: 2011 Seattle, 2012 San Jose, and 2018 Atlanta.
     
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  11. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Record for home ppg is 2.53* (14-2-1-43 points), NYRB 2018

    LAFC is currently at 2.83 11-0-1-34 points)


    *-DC United was 14-2-0 in 1998, not sure how many of the wins were shutout wins and how many of the losses were shutout loses. They had 7 shutout wins and 3 shutout losses, just don't know if any were at home.
     
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  12. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    ... The "Dull as Toast" Update ...

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    Notes


    A little shifting around, but truthfully nothing really interesting happened table-wise this week.
     
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  13. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    The fact that DCU has 8pts in the last 10g makes those despair numbers very... despairing.
     
  14. SccrDon

    SccrDon Member+

    Dec 4, 2001
    Colorado Springs
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Can't recall the threshold for becoming burnt toast. Both Despair numbers over 3? If so, the Rapids have again "achieved" that status.
     
  15. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Both over 3.00.
     
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  16. El-ahrairah

    El-ahrairah Member+

    Sep 20, 2004
    Wanker County
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Along with Cincinati and Vancouver.

    Speaking of the CD#, shouldn't that reflect the 7/12 percentile (since 7 teams get into the playoffs) and not 5/12 percentile?
     
  17. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They had 6 shootout wins and no shootout losses at home. Their schedule page doesn't say what games went to shootouts, so I used the MLS Fact & Record Book's head-to-head section with sections like D.C. vs. New York and added it.

    No, because percentile starts from the bottom. The seventh place club is better than the bottom 5/12s.
     
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  18. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    The calculation reflects the fact that 5 out of 12 teams don't make the playoffs. Hence you need to be at about the 41.67th percentile to sniff at a playoff spot, which is what the CD# is supposed to reflect.
     
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  19. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    so they finished with 30 points for 1.88 ppg at home.
     
  20. SierraSpartan

    SierraSpartan Member+

    Jan 25, 2007
    Placer County, CA
    Club:
    Sacramento Republic FC
    For one game, SJE was back down at the red line...and then they played Vancouver.

    This will not do.
     
  21. ElNaranja

    ElNaranja Member+

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Jul 16, 2017
    If only there were a post detailing explanations like this in the thread.

    You should add one next year.
     
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  22. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    I don't think Burnt Toast has ever been officially codified. It's pure precedent.
     
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  23. Namrog The Just

    Namrog The Just Member+

    L.A. Galaxy
    United States
    Jul 2, 2007
    Baltimore County, Maryland
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The secret word has turned out to be very secret indeed.
     
  24. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Remember: When someone says the secret word, scream real loud.
     
  25. El-ahrairah

    El-ahrairah Member+

    Sep 20, 2004
    Wanker County
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     

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