The 2017 MLS TV Thread

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by KCbus, Mar 6, 2017.

  1. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    This has been more common on Spanish language broadcasts even in the US.

    This is a MLS thread (now merged with another thread). People are forgetting that we have already seen boxes and split screens with the current MLS broadcasters during MLS games.
     
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  2. BalanceUT

    BalanceUT RSL and THFC!

    Oct 8, 2006
    Appalachia
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I started reducing my watching of NFL about 35 years back when I moved to a city that didn't have NFL. About 10 years ago I stopped virtually completely and have resolved to not go back because of the head injury debacle. I feel similarly about college football, though I watched it much longer.

    But, if we are honest, there are issues in soccer with head injuries. It may be they are being addressed with officials calling stoppage on apparent head injury. Still, there is a strong momentum from way back that players not be pulled from games when showing concussion symptoms.
     
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  3. The Franchise

    The Franchise Member+

    Nov 13, 2014
    Bakersfield, CA
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes. Soccer can definitely do much better than it is now. Current protocols are being half-assed. But football is on a different level from everyone else when it comes to head injury.
     
  4. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It seems unfair that a team has to play 5 minutes with 10 men often through no fault of their own. Revolving substitutions for head injuries would be an option but I can foresee the possibility of players faking head injuries to bring on a sub for a particular situation, like free-kicks or corners.
     
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  5. whiteonrice04

    whiteonrice04 Member+

    Sep 8, 2006
    #505 whiteonrice04, Sep 11, 2017
    Last edited: Sep 11, 2017
    Yeah, that is an absolute no go. Like you said it would be constantly abused.
    I say the simplest solution is stop the clock for head injuries and let them be observed properly. That way there is no real advantage to faking and the players safety is put first. In all honesty I am tired of the constant running clock. I understand that is how it has always been, but I don't care. I think the clock should be stopped for any injuries that the player needs trainers for (or the ref stops the game for). This should lower faking as there would be no time wasting benefit and it would give players the time needed to be evaluated.
     
  6. big_pole57

    big_pole57 Member

    Oct 21, 2009
    King George, Virginia
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Blashphemer!! You know you now made "the List" with those kind of irreverent thoughts! Better take that back before a piano drops on you!
     
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  7. whiteonrice04

    whiteonrice04 Member+

    Sep 8, 2006
    Haha.
    I am more tired of the time wasting tactics. Stopping the clock for injuries would cut some of that out.
     
  8. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Then the clock will need to be less than 45 minutes, You do not want a soccer game to become as long as a baseball game.
     
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  9. The Franchise

    The Franchise Member+

    Nov 13, 2014
    Bakersfield, CA
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Even baseball wants to be shorter than baseball games.
     
  10. whiteonrice04

    whiteonrice04 Member+

    Sep 8, 2006
    There is a looooooooong way to go before it would be as long as a baseball game.
     
  11. Boloni86

    Boloni86 Member+

    Jun 7, 2000
    Baltimore
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Gibraltar
    If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Head injuries are not the only reason a player might spend a few minutes on the sideline. Sometimes it can be a cut or a muscle injury. If a coach is so stressed over it, use a sub. If it becomes a massive problem, I'd rather add a 4th sub than stopping the clock. Right now soccer fits pretty neatly into a 2 hour TV window. Stopping the clock would just be the trojan horse that brings full 30 second commercials into the game. And this would also be abused by teams. Why not fake a head injury to create a 5 minute time out and stop the opponent's momentum. No thank you. Bad idea.
     
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  12. Bubba1971

    Bubba1971 Member+

    Nov 12, 2010
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hockey game is probably a better analogy.
     
  13. JayRockers!

    JayRockers! Member+

    Aug 4, 2001
    Paul, if you are still posting this list, can you include the wk 1 NFL games for comparison to the ESPN/Fox games from Sunday 9/10?

    Thx,

    Jay!
     
  14. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    NYG-DAL NBC 24.366M
    SEA-GB FOX 22.796M
    KC-NE NBC 21.791M
    Various CBS 13.337M
    NO-MIN ESPN 11.392M
    PHI-WSH FOX 11.342M
    LAC-DEN ESPN 9.938M
     
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  15. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    September 5-10, 2017
    Costa Rica / Mexico 2,700,000 —; — Telemundo; 2700000
    América / Veracruz 1,218,000 Univision; 749000 UDN; 469000
    Pachuca / Chivas 1,171,000 Univision; 740000 UDN; 431000
    Man Utd / Stoke City 946,000 NBC; 876000 Unvso; 70000
    Honduras / USMNT 531,000 beIN; 256000 Unvso; 275000
    Pumas / Tijuana 521,000 Univision; 521000 —; —
    Swansea / Newcastle 509,000 NBCSN; 294000 Telemundo; 215000
    Barcelona / Espanyol 374,000 beIN; 86000 beIE; 288000
    Liverpool / Man City 358,000 NBCSN; 329000 Unvso; 29000
    Arsenal / Bournemouth 351,000 NBCSN; 300000 Unvso; 51000
    Santos / Toluca 250,000 —; — UDN; 250000
    Seattle Sounders / Los Angeles Galaxy 220,000 FS1; 169000 FOXD; 51000
    Burnley / Crystal Palace 200,000 NBCSN; 200000 —; —
    Puebla / Cruz Azul 195,000 —; — UDN; 195000
    Columbus Crew / Sporting Kansas City 187,000 ESPN; 187000 ESPND; —
    Querétaro / León 180,000 —; — UDN; 180000
    Chicago Fire / New York Red Bulls 158,000 UniMás; 158000 —; —
    Spurs / Everton 141,000 CNBC; 141000 —; —
    Atlanta United / FC Dallas 109,000 FS1; 88000 FOXD; 21000
    Freiburg / Dortmund 104,000 FS1; 87000 FOXD; 17000
    Hoffenheim / Bayern 64,000 —; — UDN; 64000
    Kansas City / Red Stars 56,000 Lifetime; 56000 —; —
    Monterrey / Necaxa 53,000 —; — Gala; 53000
    Hertha / Bremen 39,000 FS1; 32000 FOXD; 7000
    Hamburg / Leipzig 36,000 FS2; 36000 —; —
    Mönchengladbach / Frankfurt 12,000 —; — UDN; 12000

    Remember that was hurricane weekend.
     
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  16. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Watched the Chargers game on CBS. Great advertisement for the stadium itself, but not good for the Galaxy or MLS I'd say. They showed a timelapse for the overnight conversion of the stadium from soccer to football. Then they showed the soccer score (4-0), and the color guy goes "WOOWWWW that's a very high score for soccer". Then they come back to it a few minutes later with the guy saying "wait, did one of the teams play without a goalie"? UGH.

    Anyway, we just had an MLS score highlighted on a game with 7m+ people watching. Can't be too bad of a thing I suppose...
     
  17. Coyote89

    Coyote89 Member

    Atlanta United
    United States
    May 18, 2017
    #517 Coyote89, Sep 18, 2017
    Last edited: Sep 18, 2017
    Don't sweat the dismissive comments from the NFL announcers. They don't have a clue and never will. The growth of MLS doesn't depend on converting a bunch of older, white-male NFL fans anyway. Some of us (older white males) already like soccer, but those that don't aren't going to give it a chance. However, soccer is the most popular sport among fans 25 years or younger these days and its popular with minorities and women. It's also well-suited for TV with its 2 hour broadcast window (2 1/2 hours including pre-game and post-game comments and ads), 9-month season including playoffs, and growing national footprint where almost all the major media markets are now covered. Those factors make it appealing to both broadcasters and advertisers and its the reason the TV contract gets bigger with each renewal. With all the sports broadcasters competing for content these days, and with eventual expansion to 28 teams coming soon, I honestly think the MLS TV contract will double the next time its negotiated.

    Meanwhile, both MLS and European soccer get score updates on ESPN and Fox, and game highlights are featured prominently in their highlight shows and "top ten" segments. Soccer still needs more coverage on the local TV news, on sports talk radio, and more column inches in the local newspaper (regardless of online or print format), but there is significant progress being made in terms of TV exposure, in-person game attendance, and scores/highlights updates.
     
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  18. DavidS

    DavidS New Member

    Sep 22, 2017
    Portland, OR
    I like to tell casuals that MLS is somewgsr arrested development by soccer dismissive boomers in the wild and in positions of power in the media (I'm a boomer technically ) who will never accept soccer as a major sport But that's ok. We are dying off real quick. And the MLS ownership groups still living in 1.0 land will also die off. The future is actually very bright MLS 4.0 is actually being expedited by NFL and MLB which are taking their privileged positions in the sports landscape for granted. They will not remain top dogs forever
     
  19. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Actually, I'd say NFL and MLB owners are taking an interest in MLS. MLB owners with stake in LAFC and NYC, NFL with Atlanta and Seattle and obviously New England...
     
  20. Stupid_American

    Stupid_American Member+

    Jan 8, 2003
    New York, NY
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    An update on the OTA FOX numbers from Sunday:



    If you recall, FOX experimented with this MLS/NFL doubleheader for the first time last year and the MLS games drew 1.298 million combined viewers in 2016. So MLS saw a slight uptick for 2017 with 1.35 million viewers. Hopefully it's enough to convince FOX to keep the experiment going in 2018.
     
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  21. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  22. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/201...ost-watched-years-premier-league-wnba-finals/


    The WNBA is not doing so hot.
     
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  23. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Most-watched soccer games on US TV for September 11-17, 2017

    14 9/17/17 MLS Red Bulls / Union ESPN; 259000 —; — 259,000
    15 9/16/17 MLS Atlanta United / Orlando City Univision; 194000 UDN; 62000 256,000


    39 9/13/17 NASL Indy Eleven / North Carolina beIN; 4000 —; — 4,000


    https://worldsoccertalk.com/2017/09/21/most-watched-soccer-games-on-us-tv-for-september-11-17-2017/



    Here are the most-watched soccer games on US TV for September 19-24, 2017:


    1 9/24/17 MLS Kansas City/Atlanta / Los Angeles/Montreal FOX; 1350000(145K with Spanish and Online views).

    10 9/23/17 MLS New York City / Houston Dynamo UniMás; 103000 UDN; 31000 134,000
    11 9/24/17 MLS Portland Timbers / Orlando City FS1; 110000 FOXD; 23000 133,000


    16 9/23/17 NWSL Pride / Thorns Lifetime; 82000 —; — 82,000

    https://worldsoccertalk.com/2017/09/29/watched-soccer-games-us-tv-september-19-24-2017/
     
  24. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    BTW, this surprises me, I was expecting Liga MX would be #1.

    League averages this season:

    League Viewers
    EPL 517,061
    LMX 464,429
    MLS 263,465
    NWSL 94,143
     
  25. scoachd1

    scoachd1 Member+

    Jun 2, 2004
    Southern California
    Lakers telecast pushes Galaxy to the side for a night
    Some info for the ratings inclined:
    "A Charter spokeswoman said the Galaxy’s TV ratings are up this season, to an average of about 9,000 viewers a game. But that’s less than the 11,000 homes a game the team’s broadcasts averaged in its previous deal with Fox Sports West.

    By way of comparison Real Salt Lake, the Galaxy’s opponent Saturday, is seen in as many as 45,000 Utah households per game on an over-the-air channel, according to Trey Fitz-Gerald, the team’s vice president of broadcast and public relations."
     
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