The 2017/18 Coaches On The Hotseat (or should be) thread

Discussion in 'College & Amateur Soccer' started by Sandon Mibut, Nov 7, 2017.

  1. podborney

    podborney New Member

    Nov 4, 2012
    One of the boards favorite "hot seat " coaches appears on his way out from a major program. Hasn't been formally announced. But spreading thru coaching community.
     
  2. ThePonchat

    ThePonchat Member+

    #ProRelForUSA
    United States
    Jan 10, 2013
    I've Been Everywhere Man
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bleum is done.
     
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  3. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    Interesting.
     
  4. WolverineFutbol

    Aug 1, 2012
    Ian Gordona for HC?
     
  5. podborney

    podborney New Member

    Nov 4, 2012
    Zero chance. His recruiting classes have not done well and his trainings are pedestrian. Look how well Michigan rebounded this year after Gordonas recruiting classes left Michigan.
     
  6. fknbuflobo

    fknbuflobo Member+

    Arsenal FC
    United States
    Nov 16, 2011
    Akron, Ohio
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A sad day for Zips’ fans.
     
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  7. torwart

    torwart Member

    Jan 22, 2010
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    What's the rumor mill on the possible candidates?
     
  8. fknbuflobo

    fknbuflobo Member+

    Arsenal FC
    United States
    Nov 16, 2011
    Akron, Ohio
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, one in particular scares the shit out of this Zips fan. I will not name him.
     
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  9. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    There's no way He Who Shall Not Be Named comes back to college soccer.

    This is official, btw. The release is claiming Bluem has "retired." Not sure I'm buying that, but whatever.

    http://www.ohiostatebuckeyes.com/sports/m-soccer/spec-rel/031918aaa.html

    This is a good college soccer gig. Huge athletic department in a major league city in one of the bigger conferences with an MLS academy in town (for now) as a recruiting base and 3-4 really fertile recruiting bases not too far away (Cleveland, Detroit, Chicago) and some good out of conference rivalries not too far away (Akron, Pitt, Notre Dame, Louisville, Cincinnati, Xavier) and good academics.

    I expect there will be a lot of experienced names and high-profile (as college soccer goes) names applying for this job.

    If I were the person doing the hiring, my first phone call would be to the Rocky Mountain area.
     
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  10. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    Names I would consider, were I OSU:

    Dave Brandt, unemployed (his folks aren't overjoyed!)
    Jamie Franks, Denver HC
    Oige Kennedy, Stanford assistant
    Brian Maisonneuve, Indiana assistant
    Russell Payne, Army HC
    Paul Snape, Butler HC
    Johnny Torres, Creighton assistant
    Chad Wiseman, Western Michigan HC
     
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  11. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    I know it's not who you were thinking of, but do you think Embick would be interested?

    Akron is the better college soccer program right now but OSU has way more resources. If Embick can get MLS-level talent to Akron he can get it to Columbus and OSU can likely pay more and gets him in a much better conference.
     
  12. fknbuflobo

    fknbuflobo Member+

    Arsenal FC
    United States
    Nov 16, 2011
    Akron, Ohio
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    On your first point: From your mouth to God's ears!

    I believe THE Ohio State University is the largest Athletic Department in the WORLD. The second is University of Texas. Somebody check if that is still true.

    The real point is that Buckeyes should be national contenders in every sport. Period. A good soccer coach could win serious hardware with this program. As you say, the recruiting is all within a day trip, and the rivalries are all right there, both in conference and out.

    I too recommend that OSU's first flight should go to Mountain Time Zone.
    Even though Jamie Franks at OSU would pose considerable threat to my Zips, such a hiring would be great for NCAA Soccer and good for American Soccer as a whole.
     
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  13. podborney

    podborney New Member

    Nov 4, 2012
    Entire staff supposedly shown the door. Makes you think they have someone in mind.
     
  14. fknbuflobo

    fknbuflobo Member+

    Arsenal FC
    United States
    Nov 16, 2011
    Akron, Ohio
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Brian Maisonneuve is eventually going to say yes to somebody. And he played for Crew SC.
     
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  15. fknbuflobo

    fknbuflobo Member+

    Arsenal FC
    United States
    Nov 16, 2011
    Akron, Ohio
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    OSU may (presumably) have greater resources than Akron, but Embick is already among the highest paid NCAA coaches. There is what OSU can pay a soccer coach vs. what OSU are willing to pay a soccer coach. Are the soccer specific resources at OSU greater than those at Akron? Maybe. In a negative way, many in Columbus are happy to have a mediocre soccer program, if you catch my drift.

    There is no argument on the conference, though WMU's ascendance in the MAC is encouraging.

    Not to be ignored is Akron's proximity and close ties to Internationals SC in Cleveland. Crew academy is more renown, but not necessarily of better quality.
     
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  16. DiegoGambeta

    DiegoGambeta New Member

    Feb 5, 2012
    Maybe since all the players have to compete with foreign players for limited spots, they should declare this one a global search and find a foreign coach who wants a second chance and a path to MLS coaching?
     
  17. collegesoccer

    collegesoccer Member+

    Apr 11, 2005
    Two very good options out of Indiana. One in Bloomington, the other in Indianapolis ...
     
  18. ThePonchat

    ThePonchat Member+

    #ProRelForUSA
    United States
    Jan 10, 2013
    I've Been Everywhere Man
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not Dave Brandt. Now at Hope College.

    http://athletics.hope.edu/sports/msoc/2018-19/releases/20180319rn17yq
     
  19. Dr_Soccer17

    Dr_Soccer17 New Member

    Arsenal
    United States
    Aug 31, 2017
    You'd think Jamie Franks would be at the top of their list, right? Seems to me like a no-brainer.
     
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  20. Dr_Soccer17

    Dr_Soccer17 New Member

    Arsenal
    United States
    Aug 31, 2017
    Also I wouldn't say OSU is a better option for Embick. He already has an established program where he's making $250-350k salary (based on bonuses) plus another $300-400k a year off of camps. Why would he leave? OSU *might* be able to match that salary, but I doubt they'd want to. Then he'd have to go through the process of establishing a significant summer camp program, which he already has at Akron.

    A huge advantage Akron has as well is the school's acceptance rate is incredibly high, and a ton of guys on their team get put on academic scholarships. Guys like Scott Caldwell, Kofi Sarkodi and Chad Barson were all on 0% athletic, 100% academic money. Those guys could probably get some academic $ at Ohio State, but not nearly 100%. With only 9.9 scholarships per team, this is HUGE for recruiting.

    On top of that, I've been on both campuses A LOT. Been in both locker rooms and been in all the facilities at both schools. For soccer, Akron hands down has better facilities. Their home field may be the best atmosphere in the country when its packed. I know OSU is building new locker room, weight room, study hall facility for non-revenue sports so maybe they will surpass Akron this coming fall. But as far as I can see, Embick would be leaving a national contender to go to a program that would probably top out around where Akron is now, for less money. That wouldn't make any sense.
     
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  21. I Love the game

    Jun 20, 2005
    CALEB PORTER should be OSU's first choice. Call him and pay him.
     
  22. torwart

    torwart Member

    Jan 22, 2010
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Do you honestly think he'd entertain it?? Do you know how bad Miller High Life tastes once you've had Dom Perignon??
     
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  23. ThePonchat

    ThePonchat Member+

    #ProRelForUSA
    United States
    Jan 10, 2013
    I've Been Everywhere Man
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Odds are, no one on this board knows him (Porter) personally. So, one cannot really make that decision.

    Maybe college coaching suits what Porter wants? Maybe he enjoyed that lifestyle? Doesn't matter if he'd entertain it, that call HAS to be made.

    EDIT: Dave Brandt is a prime example. DIII guy, goes DI for a spell, then pro for a spell, and now he's back at DIII. No one really knows unless you personally know the coach.
     
  24. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    But, but, but.... it's the champagne of beers!
     
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  25. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    I know that Caleb Porter thinks he's god's gift to American soccer coaching and that the job he really want is the USMNT gig.

    And I know the path to getting that job ain't thru Columbus, unless it's with the Crew, or any other college soccer gig.
     
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