... Table Making Primer ... I've had a request to make good on my earlier promise to put together a little primer on putting together tables, which can be really easy if you know a few tricks, or really time consuming and tedious if you don't. I assume your table is initially in a spreadsheet ... 1. Format each column so that each entry in that column uses the same number of characters, including spaces. This is really the big trick because making everything line up after the fact is a big pain in the butt. It's also easy to do this in Excel -- either by adjusting the decimal places, or by using special formats (like the "00" format that makes 1 appear as 01). This is why I use 3-letter abbreviations, not team names. For things like "DCU" and "@DCU" you just add a space at the beginning of the first one (" DCU") to make them line up correctly. This also explains why I use "----" as a placeholder in the schedule: I need something with four characters, so four dashes does the trick. Sometimes it's not possible to get things 100% lined up in the spreadsheet (I tend to adjust the spacing of negative numbers by hand in the final posted table), but you can minimize the work so that it just takes a few seconds of tweaking to get things lined up. 2. Don't forget the column headers. Never let the column header label characters exceed the number of characters in that column's data. If you can, try to make the column header label contain the same number of characters as that column's data. Personally, I don't carry this to the extreme. For instance, I leave W D L as single letters because a) it's minimal to adjust the headers, and b) on these threads I just recycle old, already adjusted headers. 3. Now you want to open a word processor. Copy the table to your clipboard, and then paste it into your word processor as plain text. Select everything, and change the font to Courier New -- a fixed width font. Now you can do your final adjustment of the columns in the word processor. (I also like to have the word processor show non-printing characters when I do the adjustments. Then I can see the blank spaces more easily.) 4. You'll probably have to fix the column spacing. I use two spaces between columns, but when I copy and paste the table as plain text into a word processor, it has tabs between columns. No problem: use the replace function to replace all the tabs with two spaces. 5. After that it's really just a matter of lining things up, and if you've done it right, everything will already line up -- or just about everything. 6. To post your now lined up table on the board, you must use the Code Tag. That's the little "#" button above the advance reply/new post box. You have to use the code tag for two reasons. First, it puts everything into a fixed width font. Second, it preserves all the blank spaces. You need both the fixed width font and the blank spaces to make a table line up correctly, and the code tag is the only way to do that. 7. Just copy and paste your lined up table from your word processor inside the code tags. It won't look lined up in editor window. Don't worry. Hit preview post and you'll see it's all lined up in the actual post. 8. I post all my tables in bold. To my eye, they just look better in bold. I think it's a Courier New thing. I think that's everything. If I remember something else, I'll add it. But that's basically it. It's not terribly mysterious, but I don't think there's directions for this anywhere. So here you go. Using these techniques, I can put together a post with all the tables in my big updates in just a few minutes. Because I'm posting this stuff at least once and usually a couple times a week, it's worth my while to have everything really well prepared and adjusted in my spreadsheet. Then it's just copy, paste, replace and so on. For a one-off table I probably wouldn't bother with all that preparation and would do more of the adjustments by hand. But I would copy and paste it into a word processor, and adjust everything there. With what I have above you should probably be able to quote one of my table posts and figure out how and why I did things the way I did. But if you have any questions, ask.
... Quick Update ... Code: [B][U] GP GR W D L PTS PPG PRJ MPP SE# T# M# WS# HD# AD# CNF[/U] 01 LAG 26 08 14 09 03 51 1.96 67 75 25 44 06 -- -.75 -.76 W 02 SEA 27 07 13 09 05 48 1.78 60 69 19 38 09 -- -.43 -.44 W 03 FCD 27 07 13 07 07 46 1.70 58 67 17 36 11 -- -.14 -.15 W 04 RSL 25 09 12 06 07 42 1.68 57 69 19 38 15 01 0.33 0.32 W 05 CMB 26 08 11 07 08 40 1.54 52 64 14 33 17 03 0.63 0.61 E 06 COL 28 06 10 11 07 41 1.46 50 59 09 28 16 02 0.67 0.65 W 07 SKC 26 08 09 09 08 36 1.38 47 60 10 29 21 07 1.13 1.11 E 08 PHI 25 09 08 10 07 34 1.36 46 61 11 30 23 09 1.22 1.21 E 09 HOU 27 07 08 11 08 35 1.30 44 56 06 25 22 08 1.43 1.42 E 10 DCU 24 10 07 10 07 31 1.29 44 61 11 30 26 12 1.40 1.39 E ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11 NYR 26 08 06 14 06 32 1.23 42 56 06 25 25 11 1.63 1.61 E 12 POR 26 08 09 05 12 32 1.23 42 56 06 25 25 11 1.63 1.61 W 13 CHV 27 07 07 10 10 31 1.15 39 52 02 21 26 12 2.00 1.99 W 14 CHI 26 08 04 15 07 27 1.04 35 51 01 20 30 16 2.25 2.24 E 15 SJE 26 08 05 11 10 26 1.00 34 50 00 19 31 17 2.38 2.36 W 16 NER 26 08 04 11 11 23 0.88 30 47 -- 16 34 20 2.75 2.74 E 17 TFC 28 06 04 12 12 24 0.86 29 42 -- 11 33 19‡ 3.50 3.49 E 18 VAN 26 08 04 09 13 21 0.81 27 45 -- 14 36 22 3.00 2.99 W Current AD-Baseline: 45^[/B] Code: [B]GP = Games Played | GR = Games Remaining | PPG = Points Per Game MPP = Max Points Possible = PTS + (3 x GR) SE# = SS Elimination Number = MPP - (1st Place PTS) + 1 M# = Magic Number = (11th Highest MPP) – PTS + 1 T# = Tragic Number = MPP – (10th Highest PTS) + 1 WS# = Wooden Spoon # = (18th Highest MPP) - PTS +1 HD# = Historical Despair Number = [URL="https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showpost.php?p=24203471&postcount=1"]Full explanation[/URL] AD# = Actual Despair Number = [URL="https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showpost.php?p=24203471&postcount=1"]Full explanation[/URL] - Sorted by PPG, then most GR, then alphabetical.* - Teams in [COLOR="SlateGray"]gray[/COLOR] have been eliminated from the playoffs. - Teams in [COLOR="DarkBlue"]blue[/COLOR] have clinched a playoff spot. - Teams in [COLOR="SeaGreen"]green[/COLOR] are conference seeds. - Team in [COLOR="Brown"]brown[/COLOR] has won the Wooden Spoon. - Teams in [I]italics[/I] are conference champions.[/B] Asterisks * In the final weeks MLS tie-breakers will replace the final alphabetical sort. But until the final weeks it's seriously not worth the bother. ‡ TFC’s MPP currently sets the pace for this number. When a team sets the pace on this number its WS# is impossible to attain. ^ Set by DCU’s current 44 point (1.29 PPG) pace. Notes One game, so little movement. For RSL that was a big win that helped them solidify a place among the elite at the top of the table. For PHI, that was a big loss that tossed them a bit further back into the mid-table muddle. That big muddle in the middle, arguably from 7 to 12 in the table, is also a potentially huge plus. There's separation between these teams (a few teams can coast a little, some others really need to pick up the pace), and one or two teams might move up into more solid playoff positions and a couple others might drop down into more see you next year positions. But right now all of these teams are still in contention for the playoffs, and because all but one are Eastern teams and only CMB is ahead of them, they're almost all in contention for automatic berths. Say what you like about the 10 team playoffs MLS has this year, but for the moment (and this may only last a moment) there's very good reason to hope for a truly epic playoff hunt as we move into the final stretch of the season. That said, it could also break the other way, meaning no real playoff hunt at all, if NYR and POR continue to falter.
Re: ... Quick Update ... Trying to work out some numbers...I am pretty sure an LA victory against KC doesn't get them in mathematically. Im also trying to figure out if 4 LA points gets them through mathematically. Would love any thoughts from others on whether that's possible. Obviously, 6 points does get them through. Also, Knave mad props on this analysis. I will try your formatting tips. As a heads up, you can use "if formulas" in Excel, to eliminate magic and tragic numbers for teams to which they don't apply. Generally speaking teams in current playoff positions shouldn't have tragic numbers and teams outside of the top 10 MPP have no magic numbers.
Re: ... Quick Update ... Mathematically, 3 does not. But looking at the schedules ... don't do it! Trust me, it's way too early to go there. But let's see really quickly ... Better to look at the 4 PT question, because just figuring out 4 might answer the question about 3. 4 PTS. That'd be 55 points. NYR, HOU and POR play two games against each other: HOU@POR and POR@NYR. If POR loses its games to NYR and HOU, then both NYR and HOU could end the season at 56 PTS, bumping LAG. If LAG can be bumped at 4, they can be bumped at 3. I think that's right ... maybe ... could be wrong ... I didn't look through the schedules to see what these assumptions would do to other teams. For all I know these assumptions bump other teams below 55 PTS, rendering all this bunk. Like I said, it's too early ... In general, I only eliminate nonsense, impossible numbers. I know some people probably do eliminate the M# and T# for teams above and below the playoff cutoff like you describe, but I believe in giving more info whenever possible, not less. And I also believe it's worthwhile having all those numbers there for making comparisons. Plus, some people don't even agree with the way I order the table: by PPG instead of actual PTS. Those folks will have a different top half of the table than me. Of course those people are crazy ...
... Labor Day Update ... Code: [B][U] GP GR W D L PTS PPG PRJ MPP SE# T# M# WS# HD# AD# CNF[/U] 01 LAG 27 07 14 10 03 52 1.93 65 73 22 42 05 -- ---- ---- W 02 SEA 27 07 13 09 05 48 1.78 60 69 18 38 09 -- ---- ---- W 03 FCD 27 07 13 07 07 46 1.70 58 67 16 36 11 -- ---- ---- W 04 RSL 25 09 12 06 07 42 1.68 57 69 18 38 15 01 0.33 0.32 W 05 CMB 26 08 11 07 08 40 1.54 52 64 13 33 17 03 0.63 0.61 E 06 COL 28 06 10 11 07 41 1.46 50 59 08 28 16 02 0.67 0.65 W 07 SKC 27 07 09 10 08 37 1.37 47 58 07 27 20 06 1.14 1.13 E 08 PHI 25 09 08 10 07 34 1.36 46 61 10 30 23 09 1.22 1.21 E 09 HOU 27 07 08 11 08 35 1.30 44 56 05 25 22 08 1.43 1.42 E 10 DCU 24 10 07 10 07 31 1.29 44 61 10 30 26 12 1.40 1.39 E ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11 NYR 26 08 06 14 06 32 1.23 42 56 05 25 25 11 1.63 1.61 E 12 POR 26 08 09 05 12 32 1.23 42 56 05 25 25 11 1.63 1.61 W 13 CHV 27 07 07 10 10 31 1.15 39 52 01 21 26 12 2.00 1.99 W 14 CHI 26 08 04 15 07 27 1.04 35 51 -- 20 30 16 2.25 2.24 E 15 SJE 26 08 05 11 10 26 1.00 34 50 -- 19 31 17 2.38 2.36 W 16 NER 26 08 04 11 11 23 0.88 30 47 -- 16 34 20 2.75 2.74 E 17 TFC 28 06 04 12 12 24 0.86 29 42 -- 11 33 19‡ 3.50 3.49 E 18 VAN 26 08 04 09 13 21 0.81 27 45 -- 14 36 22 3.00 2.99 W Current AD-Baseline: 45^[/B] Code: [B]GP = Games Played | GR = Games Remaining | PPG = Points Per Game MPP = Max Points Possible = PTS + (3 x GR) SE# = SS Elimination Number = MPP - (1st Place PTS) + 1 M# = Magic Number = (11th Highest MPP) – PTS + 1 T# = Tragic Number = MPP – (10th Highest PTS) + 1 WS# = Wooden Spoon # = (18th Highest MPP) - PTS +1 HD# = Historical Despair Number = [URL="https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showpost.php?p=24203471&postcount=1"]Full explanation[/URL] AD# = Actual Despair Number = [URL="https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showpost.php?p=24203471&postcount=1"]Full explanation[/URL] - Sorted by PPG, then most GR, then alphabetical.* - Teams in [COLOR="SlateGray"]gray[/COLOR] have been eliminated from the playoffs. - Teams in [COLOR="DarkBlue"]blue[/COLOR] have clinched a playoff spot. - Teams in [COLOR="SeaGreen"]green[/COLOR] are conference seeds. - Team in [COLOR="Brown"]brown[/COLOR] has won the Wooden Spoon. - Teams in [I]italics[/I] are conference champions.[/B] Asterisks * In the final weeks MLS tie-breakers will replace the final alphabetical sort. But until the final weeks it's seriously not worth the bother. ‡ TFC’s MPP currently sets the pace for this number. When a team sets the pace on this number its WS# is impossible to attain. ^ Set by DCU’s current 44 point (1.29 PPG) pace. Notes Another one game update, so there's not a whole lot to say. Yes, SKC is going to hate this result, but a draw against LAG is not a bad result for them. For some of the lower table teams, draws are really two points lost instead of three -- what I sometimes call a slow loss. SKC is not in that sort of position. This isn't to say it's a wonderful result. Rather, it's a result that maintains their status quo ante, and their status quo ante wasn't bad. It bumped their PPG down by 0.1 PPG (big deal) and it raised their despair numbers by similarly negligible amounts (meh). To face the top team in the league and come away no worse off -- well, that's a decent result. No, not a great result, but a "you should take this and be OK with it" kind of result. LAG, of course, needs no further points, except in terms of the SS race. Anytime LAG misses out on maximum points, it makes things better for SEA, FCD and SEA. This could be a big weekend on the SS front. Indeed, this could be a big weekend in general. But my big update for the weekend won't come until midweek after NER@PHI on Wednesday. Oh, and CHI, I've got some bad news. You have been eliminated from the SS race. You can console yourself with the fact that you you have not yet been eliminated from the playoff race ... at least technically. Very technically.
Re: ... Labor Day Update ... i think you mean RSL, unless a draw is doubly helpful to SEA. Good stuff otherwise.
Re: ... Labor Day Update ... If LA win Friday will be in the following position: If Portland, catches LA, LA is through as they play Houston and LA, so let us assume that Portland is not material. This also means every other team with 56 MPP or higher needs to make it. Colorado, Houston, and New York have 56 MPP and must win all remaining games, (can't be on 55) LA will have 55 and can only end up out of a playoff position if KC wins the rest of their games except the game against Houston which they would have to lose, to keep Houston on 56. That would leave KC and LA tied. This would also require Philly to lose to New York and KC, so this would result in Philly being in the tiebreak on 55. Now DCU becomes involved, as this situation requires DCU to win all matches but the match versus KC to have 58 points. If they draw Columbus they have 56 points. However, Columbus (MPP at 64) would then have to give up full points versus KC, Houston, and New York. Therefore, both DC and Columbus are now pulled in to a tie on 55 points with Columbus beating DC. Now a five way with no margin for error. This now pulls in Dallas, as they must lose to Colorado, New York, Houston, and Philly. This leaves their MPP at 55 without any margin for error. Six way tie. RSL is now pulled in as it must lose against KC, New York, Colorado, and DC, leaving their MPP at 57 points. Seattle must now lose or tie RSL (if they tie RSL is included in seven way tiebreak), however they have a good cushion on their MPP, so they may or may not be involved in the meage tiebreak. SO it could be an 8 team tiebreak. For the 6 team tiebreak LA has a 5-1-4 or an average of 1.9 PPG. For a seven team with RSL, they have a 1.83 PPG (22/12). Seven ways with Seattle 1.93 (23/12). Eight ways, 1.86 (26/14). Those are the only possible scenarios, but I've not had time to work out the other teams' tiebreaks. Anyone else wanna pitch on this. I don't think a tie vs. Colorado is worth analyzing, as it would destroy the win requirements for the other teams.
Short answer: LAG is in if they win and two of NYRB, POR, and HOU fail to win. If two of NYRB, POR, and HOU don't win, then their max points possible is 54 points which means LAG is guaranteed to be in the top 10 with their 55 points.
Re: ... Labor Day Update ... If Houston and New York both win out to end up with 56 points, they both play KC, so that would drop KC's MPP to 52 points. Combining that with other parts of your analysis seems to show that LA would clinch with a win Friday. Summary: (A) Portland winning out would drop both HOU and NY below 55 MPP. (B) HOU and NY winning out would drop both POR and SKC below 55 MPP.
Re: ... Labor Day Update ... Haha, I missed that New York played KC. Okay, that makes life a lot easier. We can now reason LA's M# down to 3 legitimately. Anyone wanna take a stab at 2?
... Blown Tire Edition ... Code: [B][U] GP GR W D L PTS PPG PRJ MPP SE# T# M# WS# HD# AD# CNF[/U] 01 LAG 27 07 14 10 03 52 1.93 65 73 22 42 05 -- ---- ---- W 02 SEA 27 07 13 09 05 48 1.78 60 69 18 38 09 -- ---- ---- W 03 FCD 27 07 13 07 07 46 1.70 58 67 16 36 11 -- ---- ---- W 04 RSL 25 09 12 06 07 42 1.68 57 69 18 38 15 01 0.33 0.32 W 05 CMB 26 08 11 07 08 40 1.54 52 64 13 33 17 03 0.63 0.61 E 06 COL 28 06 10 11 07 41 1.46 50 59 08 28 16 02 0.67 0.65 W 07 SKC 27 07 09 10 08 37 1.37 47 58 07 27 20 06 1.14 1.13 E 08 PHI 26 08 08 11 07 35 1.35 46 59 08 28 22 08 1.25 1.24 E 09 HOU 27 07 08 11 08 35 1.30 44 56 05 25 22 08 1.43 1.42 E 10 DCU 24 10 07 10 07 31 1.29 44 61 10 30 26 12 1.40 1.39 E ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11 NYR 26 08 06 14 06 32 1.23 42 56 05 25 25 11 1.63 1.61 E 12 POR 26 08 09 05 12 32 1.23 42 56 05 25 25 11 1.63 1.61 W 13 CHV 27 07 07 10 10 31 1.15 39 52 01 21 26 12 2.00 1.99 W 14 CHI 26 08 04 15 07 27 1.04 35 51 -- 20 30 16 2.25 2.24 E 15 SJE 26 08 05 11 10 26 1.00 34 50 -- 19 31 17 2.38 2.36 W 16 NER 27 07 04 12 11 24 0.89 30 45 -- 14 33 19 3.00 2.99 E 17 TFC 28 06 04 12 12 24 0.86 29 42 -- 11 33 19‡ 3.50 3.49 E 18 VAN 26 08 04 09 13 21 0.81 27 45 -- 14 36 22 3.00 2.99 W Current AD-Baseline: 45^[/B] Code: [B]GP = Games Played | GR = Games Remaining | PPG = Points Per Game MPP = Max Points Possible = PTS + (3 x GR) SE# = SS Elimination Number = MPP - (1st Place PTS) + 1 M# = Magic Number = (11th Highest MPP) – PTS + 1 T# = Tragic Number = MPP – (10th Highest PTS) + 1 WS# = Wooden Spoon # = (18th Highest MPP) - PTS +1 HD# = Historical Despair Number = [URL="https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showpost.php?p=24203471&postcount=1"]Full explanation[/URL] AD# = Actual Despair Number = [URL="https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showpost.php?p=24203471&postcount=1"]Full explanation[/URL] - Sorted by PPG, then most GR, then alphabetical.* - Teams in [COLOR="SlateGray"]gray[/COLOR] have been eliminated from the playoffs. - Teams in [COLOR="DarkBlue"]blue[/COLOR] have clinched a playoff spot. - Teams in [COLOR="SeaGreen"]green[/COLOR] are conference seeds. - Team in [COLOR="Brown"]brown[/COLOR] has won the Wooden Spoon. - Teams in [I]italics[/I] are conference champions.[/B] Asterisks * In the final weeks MLS tie-breakers will replace the final alphabetical sort. But until the final weeks it's seriously not worth the bother. ‡ TFC’s MPP currently sets the pace for this number. When a team sets the pace on this number its WS# is impossible to attain. ^ Set by DCU’s current 44 point (1.29 PPG) pace. Code: [B][U]Pace: Deviation from 3 at home, 1 on the road[/U] [U] GP PTS HG AG HW HD HL AW AD AL PCE[/U] 01 LAG 27 52 13 14 08 05 00 06 05 03 -01 02 SEA 27 48 13 14 07 04 02 06 05 03 -05 03 FCD 27 46 14 13 08 03 03 05 04 04 -09 04 RSL 25 42 14 11 09 03 02 03 03 05 -11 05 CMB 26 40 13 13 08 04 01 03 03 07 -12 06 COL 28 41 14 14 05 07 02 05 04 05 -15 07 SKC 27 37 13 14 06 05 02 03 05 06 -16 08 DCU 24 31 12 12 03 06 03 04 04 04 -17 09 PHI 26 35 13 13 05 07 01 03 04 06 -17 10 NYR 26 32 12 14 05 05 02 01 09 04 -18 11 HOU 27 35 14 13 08 03 03 00 08 05 -20 12 POR 26 32 14 12 08 02 04 01 03 08 -22 13 CHV 27 31 13 14 04 04 05 03 06 05 -22 14 CHI 26 27 13 13 03 08 02 01 07 05 -25 15 SJE 26 26 14 12 03 07 04 02 04 06 -28 16 VAN 26 21 12 14 04 05 03 00 04 10 -29 17 NER 27 24 13 14 03 06 04 01 06 07 -29 18 TFC 28 24 14 14 04 06 04 00 06 08 -32 Sorted by PCE, then fewest GP, then PPG.[/B] Code: [B][U]PPG: Home and Away[/U] [U] HPPG APPG[/U] 01 LAG 2.23 01 LAG 1.64 02 CMB 2.15 02 SEA 1.64 03 RSL 2.14 03 FCD 1.46 04 FCD 1.93 04 COL 1.36 05 HOU 1.93 05 DCU 1.33 06 SEA 1.92 06 RSL 1.09 07 POR 1.86 07 CHV 1.07 08 SKC 1.77 08 PHI 1.00 09 PHI 1.69 09 SKC 1.00 10 NYR 1.67 10 CMB 0.92 11 COL 1.57 11 NYR 0.86 12 VAN 1.42 12 SJE 0.83 13 CHI 1.31 13 CHI 0.77 14 TFC 1.29 14 NER 0.64 15 DCU 1.25 15 HOU 0.62 16 CHV 1.23 16 POR 0.50 17 NER 1.15 17 TFC 0.43 18 SJE 1.14 18 VAN 0.29[/B] Code: [B][U]Remaining League Schedule[/U] [U] TBA WK25 WK26 WK27 WK28 WK29 WK30 WK31 WK32[/U] CHI: ---- @SJE CHV NER @RSL ---- FCD CMB ---- ---- ---- ---- @HOU ---- @DCU ---- CMB: ---- TFC HOU LAG @SKC ---- @NER @CHI ---- ---- @PHI ---- DCU ---- ---- ---- COL: ---- @LAG @TFC SJE FCD ---- RSL @VAN CHV: ---- DCU @CHI @DCU PHI ---- @LAG SEA ---- ---- ---- TFC ---- ---- ---- ---- DCU: POR @CHV @SEA CHV @PHI ---- @VAN SKC ---- ---- ---- RSL @CMB ---- CHI ---- FCD: ---- @NER NYR HOU @COL ---- @CHI @SJE ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- VAN ---- HOU: ---- @SKC @CMB @FCD CHI ---- @POR LAG ---- ---- SJE ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- LAG: ---- COL VAN @CMB RSL @NYR CHV @HOU NER: ---- FCD @POR @CHI SEA SJE CMB @TFC NYR: ---- VAN @FCD RSL @TFC LAG @SKC PHI ---- ---- ---- POR ---- ---- ---- ---- PHI: ---- POR CMB @SKC DCU @SEA TFC @NYR ---- ---- ---- ---- @CHV ---- ---- ---- POR: @DCU @PHI NER SJE @VAN ---- HOU @RSL ---- ---- ---- @NYR ---- ---- ---- ---- RSL: ---- @SEA SKC @NYR CHI @VAN @COL POR ---- ---- ---- @DCU @LAG ---- ---- ---- SEA: ---- RSL DCU @VAN @NER PHI SJE @CHV SJE: ---- CHI @HOU @POR SKC @NER @SEA FCD ---- ---- ---- @COL ---- ---- ---- ---- SKC: ---- HOU @RSL PHI CMB ---- NYR @DCU ---- ---- ---- ---- @SJE ---- ---- ---- TFC: ---- @CMB COL @CHV NYR ---- @PHI NER VAN: ---- @NYR @LAG SEA POR RSL DCU COL ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- @FCD ----[/B] Code: [B][U]Remaining Strength of Schedule[/U] (Factoring Opponent Home and Away Performance) 01 HOU: 1.56 02 VAN: 1.47 03 SJE: 1.46 04 COL: 1.39 06 RSL: 1.37 07 LAG: 1.36 05 NER: 1.33 08 TFC: 1.32 09 CHI: 1.32 10 CHV: 1.31 11 DCU: 1.28 12 POR: 1.28 13 CMB: 1.24 15 PHI: 1.22 14 NYR: 1.19 16 SEA: 1.15 17 SKC: 1.13 18 FCD: 0.99[/B] Code: [B][U]MLS Numbers Resources[/U] [URL="http://www.sportsclubstats.com/USA/MLS.html"]SportsClubStats[/URL] [URL="http://www.kiva.net/~jsagarin/sports/soccer.htm"]Sagarin's MLS Ratings[/URL] [URL="http://playoffstatus.com/mls/mls.html"]PlayoffStatus[/URL] [URL="http://usasoccer.blogspot.com/"]Climbing The Ladder[/URL] [URL="http://www.settingthetable.info/home.asp"]Setting The Table[/URL] [URL="http://www.mlssoccer.com/content/2010-playoff-standings"]MLSSoccer's Playoff Table[/URL] [URL="http://www.mlssoccer.com/playoff-format"]MLS Playoff Tiebreakers[/URL] [URL="http://soccernet.espn.go.com/tables?league=usa.1&cc=5901"]ESPN Soccernet's MLS Table[/URL] Please suggest others.[/B] Notes One game, so only a small update -- but with the full tables. That draw, NER, was a slow loss. An exciting, even epic slow loss, but a slow loss nonetheless. NER had little hope before this game. Even before tonight they needed a near perfect run to even have a sniff at the playoffs. Anything less than three points wouldn’t do. After tonight, they’ll need a perfect run. That’s what those despair numbers around 3.00 PPG mean. So NER is burnt toast. Their season is over. For PHI, the draw against NER is a bit like SKC’s draw with LAG: a result that really didn’t change anything for the team in either a positive or a negative direction. It does keep the Eastern Conference playoff race anything can happen tight, which should make for entertaining (well, at least meaningful) games over the next few weeks. And there’s a bunch of meaningful games this weekend. Indeed, there’s several mid-table clashes that might very well end up making and breaking seasons. There’s also a whole bunch of overlapping games on Saturday. If you’re a neutral and you want to see the games with the biggest playoff stakes, then these are them. Saturday, 4:00PM RSL@SEA HOU@SKC RSL@SEA has SS implications, but HOU@SKC is a huge playoff game that could really shake up the Eastern Conference. Saturday, 7:30PM TOR@CMB VAN@NYR POR@PHI FCD@NER Playoff watchers will want to see both VAN@NYR and POR@PHI. Both NYR and POR are right on the edge, but they remain in a position where a couple of wins would turn things around and put them into serious playoff contention. But those wins have to start happening now. POR will have a tough time in PHI (you know Nowak will have them ready for this one). And if NYR can’t beat VAN at home … well, MetroStars jokes will be made. Saturday, 10:30PM CHI@SJE DCU@CHV There will be few matches this season more meaningless than CHI@SJE. But DCU@CHV is ripe with significance. If CHV is to have even an unreasonable hope of making the playoffs, it needs to beat DCU. A draw does CHV no good. DCU could settle for a draw. It would be wounding, but not fatal. But a win would do DCU a world of good, and it would help to solidify the team’s claim on a playoff spot. Other than that? Let’s see … um … I’ve got nothing.
... First Blue Clinched Edition ... Code: [B][U] GP GR W D L PTS PPG PRJ MPP SE# T# M# WS# HD# AD# CNF[/U] [COLOR="DarkBlue"]01 LAG 28 06 15 10 03 55 1.96 67 73 19 42 02+ -- ---- ---- W[/COLOR] 02 SEA 27 07 13 09 05 48 1.78 60 69 15 38 09 -- ---- ---- W 03 FCD 27 07 13 07 07 46 1.70 58 67 13 36 11 -- ---- ---- W 04 RSL 25 09 12 06 07 42 1.68 57 69 15 38 15 01 0.33 0.32 W 05 CMB 26 08 11 07 08 40 1.54 52 64 10 33 17 03 0.63 0.61 E 06 COL 29 05 10 11 08 41 1.41 48 56 02 25 16 02 0.80 0.78 W 07 SKC 27 07 09 10 08 37 1.37 47 58 04 27 20 06 1.14 1.13 E 08 PHI 26 08 08 11 07 35 1.35 46 59 05 28 22 08 1.25 1.24 E 09 HOU 27 07 08 11 08 35 1.30 44 56 02 25 22 08 1.43 1.42 E 10 DCU 24 10 07 10 07 31 1.29 44 61 07 30 26 12 1.40 1.39 E ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11 NYR 26 08 06 14 06 32 1.23 42 56 02 25 25 11 1.63 1.61 E 12 POR 26 08 09 05 12 32 1.23 42 56 02 25 25 11 1.63 1.61 W 13 CHV 27 07 07 10 10 31 1.15 39 52 -- 21 26 12 2.00 1.99 W 14 CHI 26 08 04 15 07 27 1.04 35 51 -- 20 30 16 2.25 2.24 E 15 SJE 26 08 05 11 10 26 1.00 34 50 -- 19 31 17 2.38 2.36 W 16 NER 27 07 04 12 11 24 0.89 30 45 -- 14 33 19 3.00 2.99 E 17 TFC 28 06 04 12 12 24 0.86 29 42 -- 11 33 19‡ 3.50 3.49 E 18 VAN 26 08 04 09 13 21 0.81 27 45 -- 14 36 22 3.00 2.99 W Current AD-Baseline: 45^[/B] Code: [B]GP = Games Played | GR = Games Remaining | PPG = Points Per Game MPP = Max Points Possible = PTS + (3 x GR) SE# = SS Elimination Number = MPP - (1st Place PTS) + 1 M# = Magic Number = (11th Highest MPP) – PTS + 1 T# = Tragic Number = MPP – (10th Highest PTS) + 1 WS# = Wooden Spoon # = (18th Highest MPP) - PTS +1 HD# = Historical Despair Number = [URL="https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showpost.php?p=24203471&postcount=1"]Full explanation[/URL] AD# = Actual Despair Number = [URL="https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showpost.php?p=24203471&postcount=1"]Full explanation[/URL] - Sorted by PPG, then most GR, then alphabetical.* - Teams in [COLOR="SlateGray"]gray[/COLOR] have been eliminated from the playoffs. - Teams in [COLOR="DarkBlue"]blue[/COLOR] have clinched a playoff spot. - Teams in [COLOR="SeaGreen"]green[/COLOR] are conference seeds. - Team in [COLOR="Brown"]brown[/COLOR] has won the Wooden Spoon. - Teams in [I]italics[/I] are conference champions.[/B] Asterisks * In the final weeks MLS tie-breakers will replace the final alphabetical sort. But until the final weeks it's seriously not worth the bother. + Despite the M# of 2, MLSSoccer says LAG is in. I suspect this is due to a combination of a) HOU, NYR and POR cannot all attain 56 points, and b) LAG must hold a few 55 PT tiebreakers. But it's not worth figuring it all out right now. So I'm just going with what MLSSoccer says. ‡ TFC’s MPP currently sets the pace for this number. When a team sets the pace on this number its WS# is impossible to attain. ^ Set by DCU’s current 44 point (1.29 PPG) pace.
Re: ... First Blue Clinched Edition ... As discussed above, no more than two of KC, POR, New York, and houston can get more than 54 points. As POR, NYR, HOU have MPPs of 55, KC has an MPP of 58. And they all have two matches against each other.
... Burnt Tortilla Edition ... Code: [B][U] GP GR W D L PTS PPG PRJ MPP SE# T# M# WS# HD# AD# CNF[/U] [COLOR="DarkBlue"]01 LAG 28 06 15 10 03 55 1.96 67 73 19 -- -- -- ---- ---- W[/COLOR] 02 RSL 26 08 13 06 07 45 1.73 59 69 15 36 10 -- ---- ---- W 03 SEA 28 06 13 09 06 48 1.71 58 66 12 33 07 -- ---- ---- W 04 FCD 28 06 13 07 08 46 1.64 56 64 10 31 09 -- ---- ---- W 05 CMB 27 07 11 07 09 40 1.48 50 61 07 28 15 03 0.71 0.50 E 06 SKC 28 06 10 10 08 40 1.43 49 58 04 25 15 03 0.83 0.58 E 07 COL 29 05 10 11 08 41 1.41 48 56 02 23 14 02 0.80 0.50 W 08 DCU 25 09 08 10 07 34 1.36 46 61 07 28 21 09 1.22 1.06 E 09 PHI 27 07 08 12 07 36 1.33 45 57 03 24 19 07 1.29 1.07 E 10 HOU 28 06 08 11 09 35 1.25 43 53 -- 20 20 08 1.67 1.42 E ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11 POR 27 07 09 06 12 33 1.22 42 54 -- 21 22 10 1.71 1.50 W 12 NYR 27 07 06 15 06 33 1.22 42 54 -- 21 22 10 1.71 1.50 E 13 CHV 28 06 07 10 11 31 1.11 38 49 -- 16 24 12 2.33 2.08 W 14 SJE 27 07 06 11 10 29 1.07 37 50 -- 17 26 14 2.29 2.07 W 15 CHI 27 07 04 15 08 27 1.00 34 48 -- 15 28 16 2.57 2.36 E 16 NER 28 06 05 12 11 27 0.96 33 45 -- 12 28 16 3.00 2.75 E 17 TFC 29 05 05 12 12 27 0.93 32 42 -- 09 28 16 ---- ---- E 18 VAN 27 07 04 10 13 22 0.81 28 43 -- 10 33 21 ---- ---- W Current AD-Baseline: 44^[/B] Code: [B]GP = Games Played | GR = Games Remaining | PPG = Points Per Game MPP = Max Points Possible = PTS + (3 x GR) SE# = SS Elimination Number = MPP - (1st Place PTS) + 1 M# = Magic Number = (11th Highest MPP) – PTS + 1 T# = Tragic Number = MPP – (10th Highest PTS) + 1 WS# = Wooden Spoon # = (18th Highest MPP) - PTS +1 HD# = Historical Despair Number = [URL="https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showpost.php?p=24203471&postcount=1"]Full explanation[/URL] AD# = Actual Despair Number = [URL="https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showpost.php?p=24203471&postcount=1"]Full explanation[/URL] - Sorted by PPG, then most GR, then REVERSE alphabetical.* - Teams in [COLOR="SlateGray"]gray[/COLOR] have been eliminated from the playoffs. - Teams in [COLOR="DarkBlue"]blue[/COLOR] have clinched a playoff spot. - Teams in [COLOR="SeaGreen"]green[/COLOR] are conference seeds. - Team in [COLOR="Brown"]brown[/COLOR] has won the Wooden Spoon. - Teams in [I]italics[/I] are conference champions.[/B] Asterisks * In the final weeks MLS tie-breakers will replace the final alphabetical sort. But until the final weeks it's seriously not worth the bother. ^ Set by HOU’s current 43 point (1.25 PPG) pace. Code: [B][U]Pace: Deviation from 3 at home, 1 on the road[/U] [U] GP PTS HG AG HW HD HL AW AD AL PCE[/U] 01 LAG 28 55 14 14 09 05 00 06 05 03 -01 02 SEA 28 48 14 14 07 04 03 06 05 03 -08 03 RSL 26 45 14 12 09 03 02 04 03 05 -09 04 FCD 28 46 14 14 08 03 03 05 04 05 -10 05 DCU 25 34 12 13 03 06 03 05 04 04 -15 06 CMB 27 40 14 13 08 04 02 03 03 07 -15 07 SKC 28 40 14 14 07 05 02 03 05 06 -16 08 COL 29 41 14 15 05 07 02 05 04 06 -16 09 PHI 27 36 14 13 05 08 01 03 04 06 -19 10 NYR 27 33 13 14 05 06 02 01 09 04 -20 11 HOU 28 35 14 14 08 03 03 00 08 06 -21 12 POR 27 33 14 13 08 02 04 01 04 08 -22 13 CHV 28 31 14 14 04 04 06 03 06 05 -25 14 CHI 27 27 13 14 03 08 02 01 07 06 -26 15 SJE 27 29 15 12 04 07 04 02 04 06 -28 16 VAN 27 22 12 15 04 05 03 00 05 10 -29 17 NER 28 27 14 14 04 06 04 01 06 07 -29 18 TFC 29 27 14 15 04 06 04 01 06 08 -30 Sorted by PCE, then fewest GP, then PPG.[/B] Code: [B][U]PPG: Home and Away[/U] [U] HPPG APPG[/U] 01 LAG 2.29 01 LAG 1.64 02 RSL 2.14 02 SEA 1.64 03 CMB 2.00 03 DCU 1.46 04 FCD 1.93 04 FCD 1.36 05 HOU 1.93 05 COL 1.27 06 POR 1.86 06 RSL 1.25 07 SKC 1.86 07 CHV 1.07 08 SEA 1.79 08 PHI 1.00 09 PHI 1.64 09 SKC 1.00 10 NYR 1.62 10 CMB 0.92 11 COL 1.57 11 NYR 0.86 12 VAN 1.42 12 SJE 0.83 13 CHI 1.31 13 CHI 0.71 14 TFC 1.29 14 NER 0.64 15 NER 1.29 15 TFC 0.60 16 SJE 1.27 16 HOU 0.57 17 DCU 1.25 17 POR 0.54 18 CHV 1.14 18 VAN 0.33[/B] Code: [B][U]Remaining League Schedule[/U] [U] TBA WK27 WK28 WK29 WK30 WK31 WK32[/U] CHI: ---- CHV NER @RSL ---- FCD CMB ---- ---- ---- @HOU ---- @DCU ---- CMB: ---- HOU LAG @SKC ---- @NER @CHI ---- @PHI ---- DCU ---- ---- ---- COL: ---- @TFC SJE FCD ---- RSL @VAN CHV: ---- @CHI @DCU PHI ---- @LAG SEA ---- ---- TFC ---- ---- ---- ---- DCU: POR @SEA CHV @PHI ---- @VAN SKC ---- ---- RSL @CMB ---- CHI ---- FCD: ---- NYR HOU @COL ---- @CHI @SJE ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- VAN ---- HOU: ---- @CMB @FCD CHI ---- @POR LAG ---- SJE ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- LAG: ---- VAN @CMB RSL @NYR CHV @HOU NER: ---- @POR @CHI SEA SJE CMB @TFC NYR: ---- @FCD RSL @TFC LAG @SKC PHI ---- ---- POR ---- ---- ---- ---- PHI: ---- CMB @SKC DCU @SEA TFC @NYR ---- ---- ---- @CHV ---- ---- ---- POR: @DCU NER SJE @VAN ---- HOU @RSL ---- ---- @NYR ---- ---- ---- ---- RSL: ---- SKC @NYR CHI @VAN @COL POR ---- ---- @DCU @LAG ---- ---- ---- SEA: ---- DCU @VAN @NER PHI SJE @CHV SJE: ---- @HOU @POR SKC @NER @SEA FCD ---- ---- @COL ---- ---- ---- ---- SKC: ---- @RSL PHI CMB ---- NYR @DCU ---- ---- ---- @SJE ---- ---- ---- TFC: ---- COL @CHV NYR ---- @PHI NER VAN: ---- @LAG SEA POR RSL DCU COL ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- @FCD ----[/B] Code: [B][U]Remaining Strength of Schedule[/U] (Factoring Opponent Home and Away Performance) 01 SJE: 1.54 02 HOU: 1.50 03 VAN: 1.48 04 CMB: 1.40 06 LAG: 1.37 07 NYR: 1.36 05 CHV: 1.35 08 PHI: 1.34 09 CHI: 1.33 10 NER: 1.31 11 RSL: 1.30 12 DCU: 1.27 13 SKC: 1.24 15 COL: 1.23 14 POR: 1.21 16 SEA: 1.19 17 TFC: 1.11 18 FCD: 0.98[/B] Code: [B][U]MLS Numbers Resources[/U] [URL="http://www.sportsclubstats.com/USA/MLS.html"]SportsClubStats[/URL] [URL="http://www.kiva.net/~jsagarin/sports/soccer.htm"]Sagarin's MLS Ratings[/URL] [URL="http://playoffstatus.com/mls/mls.html"]PlayoffStatus[/URL] [URL="http://usasoccer.blogspot.com/"]Climbing The Ladder[/URL] [URL="http://www.settingthetable.info/home.asp"]Setting The Table[/URL] [URL="http://www.mlssoccer.com/content/2010-playoff-standings"]MLSSoccer's Playoff Table[/URL] [URL="http://www.mlssoccer.com/playoff-format"]MLS Playoff Tiebreakers[/URL] [URL="http://soccernet.espn.go.com/tables?league=usa.1&cc=5901"]ESPN Soccernet's MLS Table[/URL] Please suggest others.[/B] Notes By special request of Omar, for this week only the final sort on the main table is reverse alphabetical. Welcome to 12th place NYR! As I said earlier, NYR needed to start winning games. They drew and draws are useless to them. Loss or draw, for them the only difference is how fast the boat sinks. The only saving graces for NYR are that POR drew as well (which while it keeps POR level with NYR, at least prevents them from jumping ahead of NYR), and that HOU lost (which keeps HOU from running out way ahead of NYR, and which depresses the bar over which NYR must jump – the AD-Baseline fell a point to 44). But let’s be honest, when you can’t beat VAN at home in a must win game, you’re in deep trouble. That said, the mid-table race between HOU, NYR and POR for the final spot is real tight. The first team to put a couple wins together probably takes the 10th place prize. Of course, another stumble and PHI drops down into that pack. Meanwhile, DCU took a major step to escape that mid-table pack, indeed DCU is now positioned for that 3rd spot in the East. The question is whether DCU can stay above that pack without Pontius. (And DCU's home and away troubles continue: 3rd best away record, 2nd worst home record.) At the top of the table, the only substantive change was really that RSL has jumped back into the top of the MLS elite. That and that LAG is now basically running away with the SS. LAG is going to have to stumble, and probably stumble badly, to let anyone else into that game. As for CHV, they are now most certainly toast. Very disappointing ...
Re: ... Burnt Tortilla Edition ... Portland's at home to NER and NYRB are going to Dallas this coming week. Your new sort may have some logic to it.
Re: ... Burnt Tortilla Edition ... Chivas may be toast because they're not very good but I don't see how you can say they're toast because of their position in the table. Their next 3 games are @Chi, @DCU and home to TFC and if they can come away with 7 points out of that trifecta they'd be right back in it. Too early to write them off imho, unless you're just going to write them off 'cause they suck.
Re: ... Burnt Tortilla Edition ... I write them off because they're a team averaging 1.11 PPG that needs over 2.00 PPG in their remaining games to become playoff competitive.
I repped Knave for this thread and you should too. Omar we know you will do so again when you can! I am edwardgr and I approve this thread!
Am I reading this information incorrectly, or is it really going to be at least another 2 weeks before any team can either be guaranteed a playoff birth or knocked out of contention for the playoffs?
Re: ... Burnt Tortilla Edition ... Over a 10 or 15 game stretch I would agree. But over a 7 game stretch? A 3 game win streak and suddenly it because manageable. Im not saying its likely, just that 14 points in 7 games is a conceivable hot streak.
Re: ... Burnt Tortilla Edition ... The thing about it is, while mathematically they can't be written off, you have to recognize that the 2.00 PPG projection can't be looked at in a vacuum. You've got 17 other teams all vying for playoff positioning, so Chivas needs to pick up those points while other teams currently ahead of them stay the same pace or drop points. And Chivas really only has that one game against DCU (the game against PHI too, if we're being generous) that allows them to have some control over both aspects of that equation. They have no games against Portland, New York, Houston or San Jose, whom are all fighting for that same spot and could hurt Chivas's chances without their having a say in the matter. Certainly it is possible to get that hot streak, but a lot is still going to have to break their way in other results.
Barring any boneheaded moves by me, a win by Seattle and a loss by two of Houston, New York and Portland gets Seattle into the playoffs. New York and Portland would get them to 51, but Seattle has the tie breaker against both of them.