The 2011 - 2012 Season Thread | "Return of the moc!"

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  1. BarcaFan

    BarcaFan Member

    Nov 14, 2004
    London
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    In all competitions:

    Messi 65
    Crissy 57
     
  2. NYfan

    NYfan Member

    Sep 1, 2004
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    I'm not sold on Dos Santos...you are right if Keita leaves we might be short in midfield, which is where he'd fit in. I would like to see Mascherano play more in midfield and for there to be more CB cover.
     
  3. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    For those of you unfamiliar with The Swiss Ramble, you might be interested in his latest piece on the financial debt that Madrid and Barcelona carry on their books. The clubs are in a decent position to manage the debt but there are much bigger problems for the Spanish League as a whole given there is no television contract that shares revenue. I expect this will become an issue sooner rather than later given the general insolvency of many of the clubs in the league.
     
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  4. jcvf90

    jcvf90 Member

    Dec 12, 2006
    Boca Raton, FL
    Hopefully Madrid and Barca lose some ground against European competition and are forced to make the league (not just by TV revenue, but by the way both Barca and Madrid market themselves) more competitive. Use the Barca and Madrid brand to prop La Liga, not just yourself.
     
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  5. unclesox

    unclesox BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 8, 2003
    209, California
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Whoa. Looks like the "Downtime for Upgrade" process has begun. :eek:
    All threads that were started before 2011 are now closed. It's as if BigSoccer wants to get rid of the Guardiola era. :mad:
    In due time we'll need to start a new Media thread and flood that mutha with memories of Pep's Barca collecting silverware.
    Or should all that go to a new "Essential videos" thread.
    Or have a seperate "Guardiola era" thread.
    Argh, I'm just sad to see the 2010 World Cup threads all closed now. :(
     
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  6. Gilmango

    Gilmango Member+

    Jul 20, 2006
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, I was going to post this in the media thread but this is a fine place too, an interesting interview with Pep and Fernando Trueba (film director) from September 2011 with English subtitles. Miss you already Pep:



    Edit by VeB to embed the video...
     
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  7. Gilmango

    Gilmango Member+

    Jul 20, 2006
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  8. Viscaelbarca

    Viscaelbarca Moderator
    Staff Member

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Aug 31, 2007
    MELT01
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Should we convert the "Guardiola to Step Down" thread to a tribute thread?

    Update your Avatar Gil! It is hurting my eyes :D
     
  9. unclesox

    unclesox BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 8, 2003
    209, California
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Sounds good. Maybe tweak the title a bit, from "Guardiola to step down?" to "Guardiola steps down" or something to reflect that it's a done deal.
     
  10. puyol

    puyol Member+

    FC Barcelona
    Dec 24, 2009
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    guys i heard some barca fans had made a cartoonic video named thank you pep on youtube but couldnt find it , it was mentioned in sport news , if anyone would be so kind as to provide me the link to it id appreciate it :)
     
  11. jfcule

    jfcule Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 4, 2005
    Club:
    FC Barcelona

    That just sucks. I'll see if I can find out something about that...
     
  12. Gilmango

    Gilmango Member+

    Jul 20, 2006
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Update your Avatar Gil! It is hurting my eyes :D[/quote] Let me see what I can do, my daughter is now about the age of my son in that photo anyways, so probably time for an update in any event - avatar loading is just not my forte.

    Here's a nice graphic which I hope I can upload, shows the Pichichi race over the last 2+ months:
    http://estaticos.elperiodico.com/resources/pdf/8/6/1336335752268.pdf
     
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  13. JollyJumper

    JollyJumper Member

    Sep 10, 2009
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
  14. BarcaFan

    BarcaFan Member

    Nov 14, 2004
    London
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    In all competitions:

    Messi 72
    Crissy 59

    Pichichi:

    Messi 50
    Crissy 45
     
  15. astabooty

    astabooty Member

    Nov 16, 2002
    China
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Does anyone else hate the new forum? Why would they get rid of the vForum?
     
  16. Rojinegro1

    Rojinegro1 Member+

    Jun 26, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Maybe they are trying to modernize it; but I agree, if it ain't broke don't fix it.

    Messi will no doubt win the Ballon d'Or; can't argue against the most prolific individual season in the history of the game.
     
  17. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    The fact he break Gerd Muller 40 years old record and surpase 70 goals mark, he will get another balon D'or. Remember Balon D'or is for best player not best team. Messi has the most goal plus most assist in all competition too.
     
  18. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Messi still win Ballon D'or without winning the world cup 2 years ago... now he has even more goals, even more assist plus he has 5 goals in 5 games for Argentina , scoring both in friendly and World cup qualifier. The fate has been sealed.

    Even if you compare the team winning record against Madrid... they have 3 win , 1 losses, 2 draw.
     
  19. unclesox

    unclesox BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 8, 2003
    209, California
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    I had to look this up because my mind was struggling to recall.
    The last time a player won the Ballon'Or in a year his club did not win the Champions League or domestic league nor did not have success with his country's national team was Michael Owen in 2001. But Liverpool did collect a hat-trick of cups that year (Carling Cup, FA Cup and UEFA Cup).
    Before that was Ronaldo in 1997 (Barca won the UEFA Cup Winners Cup and Copa del Rey, finished second in La Liga).
    And before that was Roberto Baggio in 1993. Juventus only collected the UEFA Cup that year.
     
  20. Rana catesbeiana

    Mar 11, 2008
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Hate the new forum? Can only give the more-or-less default answer: "I don't like the change but am gonna get used to it".
     
  21. unclesox

    unclesox BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 8, 2003
    209, California
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    ^^^
    Yeah, it's taking time to get used to but I've gradually worked it out so that it's as convenient for me as the old forum was. For example, I've bookmarked the "Watched threads" page in lieu of "My BigSoccer".
     
  22. PhiloBarca

    PhiloBarca Member

    Oct 5, 2008
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So time for a season post-mortem.

    I know most people don't think we need to change anything in attack because of the number of goals we've scored this season, but that's been inflated by the various 7/8/9 goal games.

    I looked at all the games where we dropped points. I'd argue that about half were because we gave up too many goals (2 or more) and half were because we didn't score enough (1 or less):

    Super Copa
    Madrid (away): 2-2.

    Copa Del Rey:
    Madrid (home): 2-2
    Valencia (away): 1-1

    Champions League:
    Milan (home-group): 2-2
    Milan (away-QF): 0-0
    Chelsea (away): 1-0
    Chelsea (home): 2-2

    La Liga
    Real Sociedad (away): 2-2
    Valencia (away): 2-2
    Sevilla (home): 0-0
    Bilbao (away): 2-2
    Getafe (away): 1-0
    Espanyol (away): 1-1
    Villareal (away): 0-0
    Ossasuna (away): 3-2
    Madrid (home): 1-2

    (We also had 4 games that we won despite giving up at least two goals, and three games we won 1-0).
     
  23. Gilmango

    Gilmango Member+

    Jul 20, 2006
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Stinks about Puyol needing knee surgery. Hopefully Masch and Pique can hold down the defensive fort with Adriano and Alves in the CdRey. Perhaps more worrisome for Spain. Copa final aside the timing is not terrible for Barca - he misses 1 final and 1 meaningless game, plus numerous games and countless training sessions with La Furia Roja (he may have played his last game with them though I think he can still help us for a couple more years). So yes, we truly do need another central defender plus a leftback as I don't think Abidal ever plays again.
     
  24. os_mutante

    os_mutante Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 8, 2003
    City of Bad Carls
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks for this list.

    Still haven't lost a game by more than a goal in quite some time. IMO the machine just needs a tune up, not an overhaul. And that starts with increasing the squad size. Maybe we'll start having, you know, rotations and playing time limits and stuff like that?
     
  25. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    They relied too much on Messi, 72 goals + 28 assist just too much
    Tello scored less than 10, Pedro and Sanchez less than 20. None injured Villa will at least bang 20-30 goals. Sanchez, Cuenca and Tello has yet to develop this kind of understanding



    Puyol also need to be rotated more often
     

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