Alert: The 126th Derby of the Low Countries

Discussion in 'The Netherlands' started by Blondo, Nov 2, 2016.

  1. Blondo

    Blondo Member+

    Sep 21, 2013
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    The 126th Derby of the Low Countries ... the final one before the Nations League kicks off ... according to telegraaf.nl the last time that Holland were able to win against us, brave little Belgians, was almost 20 years ago ... back then you had an awfully good squad :thumbsup::thumbsup: We've seen some crazy, open, eye-catching games ... yet it has been well over 4 years already since the previous Derby of the Low Countries which ended in a big 4-2 win for Belgium ... expecting another hugely entertaining derby with plenty of goals.
     
  2. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Time for payback. Revenge is a dish best served cold
     
  3. JC-14

    JC-14 Member+

    Jan 28, 2010
    Amsterdam
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Will be good to see Robben back in Oranje.
     
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  4. Blondo

    Blondo Member+

    Sep 21, 2013
    Highlights from the 126th Derby of the Low Countries ... getting in the mood for another highly attractive game.

     
  5. Blondo

    Blondo Member+

    Sep 21, 2013


    On Friday Martinez will make his selection public ... a few players will most likely have to give this one a miss, Vermaelen et al., and Alderweireld is a big ? ... even if he's fully fit, he'll probably see very little or no action at all ... hoping Martinez will start a decent XI and doesn't turn it into a crapshoot too soon with lots of subs.
     
  6. Rinus127

    Rinus127 Member

    Sep 8, 2015
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    When we were kings.
    Look at the positioning of the players, the confidence that comes from them. This team had the potential to win the World Cup.
     
  7. Blondo

    Blondo Member+

    Sep 21, 2013
    Love the mention of Belgium's World Cup win over Holland at USA1994 in the vid ... our H2H record at the World Cup still is in favor of Belgium :devilish: ... although you guys are ahead over the span of all 125 derbies.

    I grew up watching a Dutch side that played very attractive football ... plenty of love for those late 1990s/early noughties squads ... 2002 might even have been more promising ... if LVG hadn't failed to qualify, a Dutch side filled to the rafters with top quality players would have been a serious contender without a shadow of doubt ... S.Korea and Turkey even made the SFs in that World Cup ... while Brazil were very beatable and Germany ran out of steam at the end.

    Since 1990 Belgian football was in decline ... IIRC the 1997 loss to Holland in the Qs, i.e. the last time Belgium lost a Low Countries Derby, prompted Leekens to switch to a 5-3-2 and to play more defensively and opportunistically once Ireland was beaten in the play-offs ... can't really remember playing with the venom displayed in the vid but I can see why Staelens trash-talked Kluivert at France1998 (calling him sexmachine ... probably a quote from From Dusk Till Dawn ... trolling Kluivert with the gangbang rape charges that almost prevented him from going to France1998 ... :ninja::ROFLMAO:)

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    Change in Belgian football only came about in the noughties ... a strong performance at Beijing2008 gave us hope ... but yea, can't shake the feeling that we would have bounced back earlier without too much focus on defensive solidity (sweat > technique), outdated methods plus little to no trust in our own youth, an amateur FA that lost control over the players, etc. ... joining forces in a BeNe League after working together as co-hosts during EURO2000 could have been a huge boost as well and IMHO would still have the single biggest impact of any measure you can take when looking to improve Dutch and Belgian football (sooner would have been better, but hey-ho better late than never).

    PS my apologies ... didn't expect to write an essay post ... once I get started, things can go awfully wrong before I get a grip.
     
  8. Blondo

    Blondo Member+

    Sep 21, 2013
    Roberto Martinez presser around 12 CET today ... maybe a few moments of Dutch/French/German but usually most of the presser is in English.



    A few players will most likely have to give this one a miss, Vermaelen, Chadli et al. ... Dembele, Alderweireld and T.Hazard are ??? ... despite the injury woes Hazard, De Bruyne, Lukaku, Meunier, Carrasco et al. are in top form.
     
  9. Blondo

    Blondo Member+

    Sep 21, 2013
  10. Blondo

    Blondo Member+

    Sep 21, 2013
    #10 Blondo, Nov 4, 2016
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  11. JC-14

    JC-14 Member+

    Jan 28, 2010
    Amsterdam
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    He's thinking about selecting Kuwas :ROFLMAO: Get scared!

    I remember seeing him play when he was an amateur at KFC a couple of years ago.
     
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  12. bunbohue

    bunbohue Member+

    Apr 5, 2005
    How about this game:
     
  13. Blondo

    Blondo Member+

    Sep 21, 2013
    @bunbohue ... 125 derbies, that's plenty to choose from ... from the ones in the 70s, the decisive World Cup 1974 qualifier with the referee error in the final minute comes to mind ... without that bad call, 1974 doesn't happen for Holland ... especially as it's the only World Cup that featured Cruijff, we don't mind that bad call too much ... as I said before (to DRB300)

     
  14. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    You say that like its a bad thing. Stroot made a serious error against Sweden that cost us the game, and then made another one against France that led to 1-0.

    I'm starting to think Stroot is an overrated player who underperforms whenever he puts on the Oranje shirt
     
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  15. Blondo

    Blondo Member+

    Sep 21, 2013
    Thought Strootman was nailed on as a starter (when fully fit) ... also it's a shame Robben will be rested as I'm not a fan of useless friendlies and instead prefer to see both sides go at it (if possible at full strength) ... luckily it sounds like Blind will not rest his starters (except for Robben) ... 4 subs in the first 60' or so and in case calamity strikes he still has 2 more subs ... nothing unusual ... Blind doesn't have to give starters extra rest ... especially as you face lululand next.

    Probable line-ups?


    Stekelenburg
    Karsdorp-Van Dijk-Bruma-Blind
    Wijnaldum-Schaars-Sneijder
    Lens-Janssen-???

    Lukaku
    Hazard-KDB-Mertens
    Fellaini-Witsel
    Cavanda-Vertonghen-Kompany-Meunier
    Courtois​

    Hard to tell what Martinez is thinking ... I doubt he's sticking to the 3-4-3 that he used in the 3 previous qualifiers ... worked great though (scored a combined 13 goals and conceded 0) ... he might rest a few starters as well (experiment a bit) ... oddly he didn't select Nainggolan and Lombaerts ... IMHO both of them plus Carrasco should have started in an attacking 3-4-3 to ingrain routine (leaving out Cavanda, Fellaini and Mertens)

    PS used @BaritoPutra @Laurent75 @wilson00 @curbo @Sybe Pals posts for Holland's line-up ... who'll replace Promes?
     
  16. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Bayern told Blind they don't want Robben to play in the Belgian friendly.
     
  17. curbo

    curbo Member

    Apr 14, 2012
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    Strange, better Robben gets injured now and is back for the important games in the championsleague than the other way around you would think.
     
  18. thatkid

    thatkid Member

    Jun 21, 2010
    Netherlands
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Guys, stop posting old videos of our teams.. it's depressing! That is what countries like Hungary do.
     
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  19. terrier

    terrier Member

    May 31, 2011
    Netherlands
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Friendlies are nonsense.
     
  20. Blondo

    Blondo Member+

    Sep 21, 2013
    Reportedly not only Robben, Strootman, Promes and Kongolo won't play ... Pröpper and Karsdorp have also dropped out ... Brenet has been called up.
     
  21. Belgian guy

    Belgian guy Member+

    Club Brugge
    Belgium
    Aug 19, 2002
    Belgium
    Club:
    Club Brugge KV
    Pretty much.
     
  22. Blondo

    Blondo Member+

    Sep 21, 2013
    3 sound reasons to play this friendly

     
  23. Rinus127

    Rinus127 Member

    Sep 8, 2015
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Lol.
     
  24. Blondo

    Blondo Member+

    Sep 21, 2013
    Hahaha

     
  25. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I can certainly understand that. Clubs invest a lot money in player like Robben, whats the point in him playing a silly friendly just so he can get injured (again!). Its not like Robben is a young player that needs NT playing time, we already know what he can do so its pointless to play him IMO
     

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