The 100 Greatest X of All Time Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'The Beautiful Game' started by comme, Nov 19, 2009.

  1. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
    .........Til Here ! Right Now !

    Ranking Rate = Goals + Assists + Pre-Assists (type 1, type 2 ) + Penalties Suffered ( as a Key Plays . ) ......................... !

    Ruud Gullit 11 matches .. 6 goals .....+ 4 assists and + 1 pre-assist aswell Total = 11
    Michael Laudrup 16 matches ... 2 goals ..... + 3 assists and + 1 pre-assist aswell Total = 6
    Dennis Bergkamp 19 matches .... 1 goal ..... + 3 assists and + 4 pre-assists aswell ! + 1 penalty suffered Total = 9
    Ronaldinho Gaucho 27 matches ..... 6 goals .... + 5 assists and .... + 1 pre-assist aswell ( 1 * auxerre french cup final in 2003 ) Total = 12 participations in goals . ! ( * 13 )
    Diego Armando Maradona til here ... Total = 15 matches ... 7 goals .+.. + 10 assists and + 5 pre-assists === 1, 46 % Total = 22
    Zidane .... Final 24 matches ...... 4 goals .... 3 assists ans 7 pre-assists til here ! Total = 14
    Michel Platini Final 13 .... 13 matches ..... 9 goals ..... 3 assists .... 2 pre-assists til here ! = Total = 14
    Le grand Alfredo Di Stefano 16 matches ..... 11 goals .... 6 assists ... 2 pre-assists Total = 19
    without the Copa San Martin de Torres Tours Final in 1980 ..... 14 matches ...... 3 goals + 10 assists and + 5 pre-assists = 1, 28, 05 % ! Diego Maradona . Total = 18
    without the SuperCup Mundialito 1983 vs Flamengo .... ...... 12 matches .... 8 goals ... 3 assists ..... 2 pre-assists too ! so amazing at all .. Michel Platini this is my real idol with Gullit too and Edson Arantes Pelé .. Johan Cruyff .. Ferenc Puskas . Total = 13
    ... Johan Hendrix Cruyff .... 17 matches ..... 11 goals .... 9 assists .... 3 key plays ... 3 pre-assists = Total = 26
    Ferenc Puskas 11 matches ..... 17 goals .... 3 assists ... 1 pre-assist Total = 21
    Gerd Der Bomber Muller .... 16 matches ... 14 goals ... ...1 pre-assist .. 1 Key Plays Total == 16
    Marco van Basten ... 15 matches ...... 9 goals .... + 2 indirect assists or key plays(against Olimpia 1990 ) ..... + 4 direct assists .... ( 1* free kick won 1989 Intercontinental Cup World ClubCup against Medelin) Total == 15







    Diego Armando Maradona average of participations to the team ===== == 1, 28, 05 %
    Ruud Gullit average of participations to the team ===== == 1, 00 %
    Michael Laudrup average of participation to the team =============== 0. 37 , 05 %
    Dennis Bergkamp average of participation to the team ================= 0 . 47 , 30%
    Ronaldinho Gaucho average of participation to the team =============== 0 . 44, 44 %
    Zine.. Zidane .... average of participation to the team ================== 0. 58, 33 %
    Michel Platini average of participation to the team =============== 1. 08, 33 %
    Don Di Stefano Le grand average of participation to the team =============== 1. 18 , 75 %
    JOhan Hendrix Cruyff average of participation to the team =============== 1. 52, 94 %
    Ferenc Puskas average of participation to the team =============== 1. 90, 90 %
    Gerd Der Bomber Muller average of participation to the team =============== 1. 00, 00 %
    Marco van Basten average of participation to the team =============== 1. 00, 00 %





    .......... per Finals disputed for both players !



    CURRENT RANKING LIST ! Updated again .



    1. Ferenc Puskas == 1, 90 %
    2. Johan Hendrix Cruyff == 1, 52 %
    3. Diego Armando Maradona == 1, 28 %
    4. Don Alfredo Di Stefano == 1, 18 %
    5. Michel Platini == 1. 08 %
    6. Gerd der Bomber Muller == 1. 00 % ( Is Missing two goals against Hamburg's Final 67 to analize this as soon as possible don't have images til now )
    7. Marco van Basten == 1, 00 % ( 1* free kick won 1989 Intercontinental Cup World ClubCup against Medelin)
    8. Ruud Gullit == 1 , 00 %
    9. Zinedine Zidane == 0 . 58 %
    10. Dennis Bergkamp == 0.47 % ( 1* penalty suffered( a key Plays ) against Torino Uefa Cup Final)
    11. Ronaldinho Gaucho == 0 . 44 % (1 * + 0. 48 % not defined * French Cup Final)
    12. Michael Laudrup == 0. 37 % ( 1 * freekick won against Manchester United 1990/91 not defined *)
     
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  2. PuckVanHeel

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    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord


    :thumbsup:
     
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  3. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    Will you continue with this? Or are all of them done now?
     
  4. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord


    Brian Clough his comments at 30:50! Scenes vs Poland and Belgium.
     
  5. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
    .........Til Here ! Right Now !

    Ranking Rate = Goals + Assists + Pre-Assists (type 1, type 2 ) + Penalties Suffered ( as a Key Plays . ) ......................... !

    Ruud Gullit 11 matches .. 6 goals .....+ 4 assists and + 1 pre-assist aswell Total = 11
    Michael Laudrup 16 matches ... 2 goals ..... + 3 assists and + 1 pre-assist aswell Total = 6
    Dennis Bergkamp 19 matches .... 1 goal ..... + 3 assists and + 4 pre-assists aswell ! + 1 penalty suffered Total = 9
    Ronaldinho Gaucho 27 matches ..... 6 goals .... + 5 assists and .... + 1 pre-assist aswell ( 1 * auxerre french cup final in 2003 ) Total = 12 participations in goals . ! ( * 13 )
    Diego Armando Maradona til here ... Total = 15 matches ... 7 goals .+.. + 10 assists and + 5 pre-assists === 1, 46 % Total = 22
    Zidane .... Final 24 matches ...... 4 goals .... 3 assists ans 7 pre-assists til here ! Total = 14
    Michel Platini Final 13 .... 13 matches ..... 9 goals ..... 3 assists .... 2 pre-assists til here ! = Total = 14
    Le grand Alfredo Di Stefano 16 matches ..... 11 goals .... 6 assists ... 2 pre-assists Total = 19
    without the Copa San Martin de Torres Tours Final in 1980 ..... 14 matches ...... 3 goals + 10 assists and + 5 pre-assists = 1, 28, 05 % ! Diego Maradona . Total = 18
    without the SuperCup Mundialito 1983 vs Flamengo .... ...... 12 matches .... 8 goals ... 3 assists ..... 2 pre-assists too ! so amazing at all .. Michel Platini this is my real idol with Gullit too and Edson Arantes Pelé .. Johan Cruyff .. Ferenc Puskas . Total = 13
    ... Johan Hendrix Cruyff .... 17 matches ..... 11 goals .... 9 assists .... 3 key plays ... 3 pre-assists = Total = 26
    Ferenc Puskas 11 matches ..... 17 goals .... 3 assists ... 1 pre-assist Total = 21
    Gerd Der Bomber Muller .... 16 matches ... 14 goals ... ...1 pre-assist .. 1 Key Plays Total == 16
    Marco van Basten ... 15 matches ...... 9 goals .... + 2 indirect assists or key plays(against Olimpia 1990 ) ..... + 4 direct assists .... ( 1* free kick won 1989 Intercontinental Cup World ClubCup against Medelin) Total == 15
    Ronaldo Nazario de Lima ....19 matches ...... 16 goals ... 4 assists ... Total == 20






    Diego Armando Maradona average of participations to the team ===== == 1, 28, 05 %
    Ruud Gullit average of participations to the team ===== == 1, 00 %
    Michael Laudrup average of participation to the team =============== 0. 37 , 05 %
    Dennis Bergkamp average of participation to the team ================= 0 . 47 , 30%
    Ronaldinho Gaucho average of participation to the team =============== 0 . 44, 44 %
    Zine.. Zidane .... average of participation to the team ================== 0. 58, 33 %
    Michel Platini average of participation to the team =============== 1. 08, 33 %
    Don Di Stefano Le grand average of participation to the team =============== 1. 18 , 75 %
    JOhan Hendrix Cruyff average of participation to the team =============== 1. 52, 94 %
    Ferenc Puskas average of participation to the team =============== 1. 90, 90 %
    Gerd Der Bomber Muller average of participation to the team =============== 1. 00, 00 %
    Marco van Basten average of participation to the team =============== 1. 00, 00 %
    Ronaldo Nazario de Lima average of participation to the team =============== 1. 05, 20 %





    .......... per Finals disputed for both players !



    CURRENT RANKING LIST ! Updated again .



    1. Ferenc Puskas == 1, 90 %
    2. Johan Hendrix Cruyff == 1, 52 %
    3. Diego Armando Maradona == 1, 28 %
    4. Don Alfredo Di Stefano == 1, 18 %
    5. Michel Le Roi Platini == 1. 08 %
    6. Ronaldo Nazario de Lima == 1, 05, %
    7. Gerd der Bomber Muller == 1. 00 % ( Is Missing two goals against Hamburg's Final 67 to analize this as soon as possible don't have images til now )
    8. Marco van Basten == 1, 00 % ( 1* free kick won 1989 Intercontinental Cup World ClubCup against Medelin)
    9. Ruud Gullit == 1 , 00 %
    10. Zinedine Zidane == 0 . 58 %
    11. Dennis Bergkamp == 0.47 %
    12. Ronaldinho Gaucho == 0 . 44 % (1 * + 0. 48 % not defined * French Cup Final against Auxerre 2003)
    13. Michael Laudrup == 0. 37 % ( 1 * freekick won against Manchester United 1990/91 not defined * 1* + 0, 43 %)
     
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  6. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
  7. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    So let's do these older games here then;

    This is also not the place to redo all previous matches I guess, but indeed this was a huge game with a German referee team (including linesman) that worked out well for us. Going against the all-time low results with that country (lowest win%, highest loss%, with 2000 semi final counted as a draw).

    Let me say though that Koeman his free kick goal could have been a penalty. Where the contact ends counts, not the point of initial contact (same for the '74 final penalty). Also if you do not touch the player it can be a penalty, depending on how you go in with your leg (this is the 'excuse' for the 1974 German penalty in the final; no contact but...). Turkey-Greece is also separated but somehow throwing the (Southern-)German football elite at us has never been a problem.

    And then this ("truly mad offside decision"):


    That is though rarely recalled in the British press. Amid all the villainization of Koeman.

    An opposite case is the Spain match in 2010: I'd say the British media very one sided there on a number of things, but if you take the refereeing out of the equation (Webb gifting the Iniesta goal; Puyol escaping a red card; soft second yellow for Heitinga; also some things favoring 'Holland' such as the missed Nigel de Jong kick) then Spain wins 6 out of 10 times or 7 out of 10 times. Without Angel Maria Villar up high, and them being one of the best national teams of all-time in level and consistency - as a combination of these two.

    Make everything neutral and Spain wins still 60-70% of the times, certainly over 120 minutes. But that doesn't mean no Oranje player would have been good enough to play for Spain.
     
  8. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024








    Frank Rijkaard Final 1 .............. 1 match til here !
     
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  9. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024





    Frank Rijkaard Final 2 .... 2 matches til here !
     
  10. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
  11. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
  12. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024




    Rijkaard Final 5 .... 5 matches .... 2 pre-assists .... 1 pre-assist ( type 2 ) !
     
  13. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024







    Rijkaard Final 6 ...... 6 matches .... 3 pre-assists .... 1 pre-assist (type 2 ) !
     
  14. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
  15. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
  16. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024





    Rijkaard Final 9 ....... 9 matches ..... 1 goal ..... 1 assist ( he could assist too by Thierry Henry )


    3 pre-assists .... 1 pre-assist (type 2 ) ! until here !!
     
  17. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
    Rijkaard Final 9 ....... 9 matches ..... 1 goal ..... 1 assist ( he could assist too by Thierry Henry )


    4 pre-assists .... 1 pre-assist (type 2 ) ! until here !!
     
  18. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024



    Rijkaard Final 10 .... 10 matches .....1 goal ..... 1 assist ( he could assist too by Thierry Henry )


    4 pre-assists .... 1 pre-assist (type 2 ) ! until here !!
     
  19. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024




    Rijkaard Final 11 .... 11 matches ..... 1 goal ..... 1 assist ( he could assist too by Thierry Henry )


    4 pre-assists .... 1 pre-assist (type 2 ) ! until here !!
     
  20. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024





    Rijkaard Final 12 ..... 12 matches .......1 goal ..... 1 assist ( he could assist too by Thierry Henry )


    4 pre-assists .... 1 pre-assist (type 2 ) ! until here !!
     
  21. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024




    Rijkaard Final 13 ..... 13 matches ....1 goal ..... 1 assist ( he could assist too by Thierry Henry )


    4 pre-assists .... 1 pre-assist (type 2 ) ! until here !!
     
  22. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024




    Rijkaard Final 14 .... 14 matches .....1 goal ..... 1 assist ( he could assist too by Thierry Henry )


    4 pre-assists .... 1 pre-assist (type 2 ) ! until here !!
     
  23. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024




    Rijkaard Final 15 .... 15 matches ..... 2 goals ...... 1 assist ( he could assist too by Thierry Henry )


    4 pre-assists .... 1 pre-assist (type 2 ) ! until here !!
     
  24. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024




    Rijkaard Final 16 ..... 16 matches ..... 2 goals ...... 1 assist ( he could assist too by Thierry Henry )


    4 pre-assists .... 1 pre-assist (type 2 ) ! until here !!
     

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