The 100 Greatest X of All Time Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'The Beautiful Game' started by comme, Nov 19, 2009.

  1. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel Member+

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    This looks the right thread for me;

    Zidane gets a 7 by L'Equipe for the Portugal 2000 semi final. He is the joint second of his team behind Barthez (same grade as Henry and Vieira). The grade for captain Deschamps is savage, bordering on a hitjob. SofaScore has Zidane as MOTM.

    The grading for the 2000 Italie vs Pays-Bas semi-final (funnily, Italy came first in the order, not the home playing country, Italy had the first kit choice; referee was Merkus Merk, lol) is also strange at some places. I made already a comment about this match and who played well on the previous page.

    What a missed opportunity that was... the squad was then not predominantly leaning on Holland (unlike now) and also a not a situation where 5% minorities provide 60% of the squad and the majority of first team players. That is not an optimum use of your population, but yes, maybe football is a bit less popular now and not equally popular in all parts of the land. At the same time, the players models, the ESPN list and ESM voting is still fairly generous I think (but ofc not all those players are now getting playing time or in the squad, true).
     
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  2. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024












    Ronaldinho Gaucho Final 27 ..... 27 matches ..... 6 goals ... 5 assists ... 1 pre-assist and ( 1 * against Auxerre French Cup Final not defined )




    1. Inter 1 x 0 Gremio ... 1999 ...............
    2. Gremio 2 x 0 Inter ....1999 ....1 goal ( free kick )
    3. Gremio 1 x 0 Inter ....1999 .... 1 goal ( nutmegs Left foot goal )
    4. Mexico 4 x 3 Brazil ..... 1999 ...... 1 assist ( low crosses )
    5. Caixas do Sul 3 x 0 Gremio 2000 ........
    6. Gremio 0 vs 0 Caixas do Sul 2000 ........
    7. PSG 1 x 2 Auxerre 2003 ....... ( 1 * not defined by Peter Gabriel dear mate hahahaha )
    8. Santos Laguna 5 x 0 Querataro Mex ........ 2015 .......
    9. Santos Laguna 3 x 0 Querataro Mex ........ 2015 ......
    10. Barcelona 0 x 1 Internacional Brasil ....... 2006 ......
    11. Barcelona 2 x 1 Arsenal ING ........... 2006 ...............
    12 ... Barcelona 0 x 3 Sevilla ESp .......... 2006 ...............
    13 ....... Betis 0 x 3 Barcelona .... 2005 ... 1 goal ( free kick ) 1 assist ( deeper pass )
    14 ..... Barcelona 1 x 2 Real Betis .... 2005 .........
    15 ....... Barcelona 3 x 0 Espanhol ...... 2006 ...... 1 assist ( crossing right foot )
    16 ...... Espanhol 0 x 1 Barcelona ....... 2006 ..... 1 assist ( normal pass to Giuly )
    17 ...... Brazil 4 x 1 Argentina ... 2005 .... 1 goal .... 1 pre-assist ..
    18 ...... Brazil 2 x 0 Germany .... 2002 .... .......
    19 ... Flamengo 0 x 0 Vasco Final Cariocão .... 2011 ...............
    20. ... Flamengo 1 x 0 Boa Vista Taça Guanabara ( first phase ) ... 1 goal ( free kick )
    21 .... Atletico Mg 3 x 0 Cruzeiro ...... 2013 .... 1 assist
    22 ...... Cruzeiro 2 x 1 Atletico MG ...... 2013 .............. 1 goal ( penalty kick )
    23 .... Cruzeiro 0 x 0 Atletico MG ..... 2014 .................
    24 .......... Olimpia 2 x 0 Atletico MG .... 2013 Libertadores ............
    25 ......... Atletico Mg 2 x 0 Olimpia ..... 2013 Libertadores .........
    26 ......... Lanus 0 x 1 Atletico Mg ...... 2013 Recopa Sudamerica .....
    27 ......... Atletico Mg 4 x 3 Lanus ARG .... 2013 Recopa Sudamerica ........
     
  3. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
    Til Here ! Ruud Gullit 11 matches .. 6 goals .....+ 4 assists and + 1 pre-assist aswell Total = 11
    Michael Laudrup 16 matches ... 2 goals ..... + 3 assists and + 1 pre-assist aswell Total = 6
    Dennis Bergkamp 19 matches .... 1 goal ..... + 3 assists and + 4 pre-assists aswell ! Total = 8
    Ronaldinho Gaucho 27 matches ..... 6 goals .... + 5 assists and .... + 1 pre-assist aswell ( 1 * auxerre french cup final in 2003 ) Total = 12 participations in goals . !


    Ruud Gullit average of participations to the team ===== == 1, 00 %
    Michael Laudrup average of participation to the team =============== 0. 37 , 05 %
    Dennis Bergkamp average of participation to the team ================= 0 . 42 , 03%
    Ronaldinho Gaucho average of participation to the team =============== 0 . 44, 44 %

    .......... per Finals disputed for both ! of them . !



    Til Here ... Ranking List in the main Finals disputed :

    1 . Ruud Gullit == 1 %
    2. Ronaldinho Gaucho == 0 . 44 %
    3. Dennis Bergkamp == 0.42 %
    4. Michael Laudrup == 0. 37 %
     
  4. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
  5. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024







    Diego Armando Maradona Final 2 : 2 matches 4 goals ... 1 assist and 1 pre-assist til here !
     
  6. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
  7. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
  8. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024







    Diego Armando Maradona Final 5 .... 5 matches .... 6 goals ... 2 assists and 1 pre-assist til here !
     
  9. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024






    Diego Armando Maradona Final 6 ... 6 matches .... 6 goals .... 3 assists and 2 pre-assists !
     
  10. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
  11. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024





    Diego Armando Maradona Final 7 ... Final 8 ... 8 matches ... 6 goals ... 5 assists and 2 pre-assists ... !
     
  12. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024








    Maradona Final 9 Final 10 .... 10 matches ... 6 goals ... 6 assists and 2 pre-assists til here !
     
  13. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024







    ...............




    Maradona Final 11 .. Final 12 ..... 12 matches ... 7 goals ... 9 assists and ... and 3 pre-assists til here !
     
  14. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024





    Maradona Final 13 ...... 13 matches .... 7 goals ..... 9 assists and 3 pre-assists !
     
  15. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024






    Maradona .... Final 14 ..... 14 matches ..... .. 7 goals ..... 10 assists and 4 pre-assists til here my dear friend !
     
  16. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024










    Maradona Final 15 ... 15 matches ... 7 goals .... 10 assists and 5 pre-assists !
     
  17. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
    Diego Armando Maradona til here ... Total = 15 matches ... 7 goals .+.. + 10 assists and + 5 pre-assists === 1, 46 %



    without the Copa San Martin de Torres Tours Final in 1980 ..... 14 matches ...... 3 goals + 10 assists and + 5 pre-assists = 1, 28, 05 % !
     
  18. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel Member+

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    I think you can puzzle about which ones should count as real finals. The Copa Del Rey has to count surely, because it brought access to Europe and packed European nights with higher priced tickets.

    Copa de la Liga I am not sure of. It was not for nothing quickly abolished, because the conclusion was those had been de facto friendlies.

    Nice work regardless. I can post the big game scorers list as well (Maradona doesn't rank well there).

    I'll make a try for Zidane.
     
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  19. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024




    ................
    good . This is the famous one where Diego Armando Maradona received a standing ovation from the entire Santiago Bernabeu in the hands showning pride for him .... the same was with ..Johan Cruyff .... Del Piero ..... Iniesta ... Samuel Eto'o for Mallorca in 2003 .. Ronaldinho Gaucho in 2006 etc ...has more names too for sure . I believe it was seen as an official final, yes for sure... like the French League Cup or the German League Cup. !


     
  20. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024




    ....................
    https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fútbol_Club_Barcelona



    for Barcelona FC is considered as an Official competition . !





    for example ..
    Confederations Cup is also forever extinct from World Football... But by the CBF and Fifa it is considered an official competition yet . !
     
  21. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel Member+

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    Yes, and Juventus counts the titles they had bought in the 2000s. The Italian FA does not.

    Barcelona counts this because it was a competition designed by Nunez and because it closes the trophy gap with Real Madrid. Barcelona won two out of four, Real Madrid one.

    As for the standing ovation stuff: this gets really mythologized with the pretension it is extremely rare. For some reason you hear never about Cruijff receiving a standing ovation, Gullit applauded off the pitch in the 1989EC final or Rijkaard receiving two times an ovation (after a win) by Milan supporters when he played for Ajax. Or Ajax receiving three minutes long applause in the Bernabeu in 1995 (I don't lie about this).

    It is a) not as rare as sometimes made out and b) remembered very, very selectively. Iniesta a standing ovation, Maradona universal applause, that stuff.
     
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  22. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024



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    this game of Samuel Eto'o was amazing at all !
     
  23. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024






    Zidane Final 1 ................... 1 match til here !
     
  24. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024











    Zidane Final 2 .............. 2 Matches ... til here !
     
  25. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024







    Zidane Final 3 ..... 3 matches til here !
     

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