The 100 Greatest Goalkeepers of All Time

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  1. comme

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    Feb 21, 2003
  2. comme

    comme Moderator
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    Feb 21, 2003
    Final list for ease of reference and those to lazy to go through the whole thread.

    100. Carlos Jose Castilho (Brazil)
    99. Brad Friedel (USA)
    98. Antal Szabo (Hungary)
    97. Simeon Simeonov (Bulgaria)
    96. Manuel Bento (Portugal)
    95. Joseph-Antoine Bell (Cameroon)
    94. Paco Buyo (Spain)
    93. Elisha Scott (Northern Ireland)
    92. Bodo Ilgner (W Germany)
    91. Rodolfo Rodriguez (Uruguay)
    90. Aldo Olivieri (Italy)
    89. Toni Turek (W Germany)
    88. Jean Nicolay (Belgium)
    87. Ivan Curkovic (Yugoslavia)
    86. Bert Trautmann (Germany)
    85. Barbosa (Brazil)
    84. Heinrich Stuhlfauth (Germany)
    83. Vitor Baia (Portugal)
    82. Jack Kelsey (Wales)
    81. Hans Jakob (W Germany)
    80. Américo Tesoriere (Argentina)
    79. Milutin Soskic (Yugoslavia)
    78. Georgi Naydenov (Bulgaria)
    77. René Higuíta (Colombia)
    76. Ronnie Simpson (Scotland)
    75. Pierre Chayriguès (France)
    74. Julien Darui (France)
    73. Manga (Brazil)
    72. Andreas Köpke (Germany)
    71. Hans van Breukelen (Holland)
    70. Harry Hibbs (England)
    69. Vítor Damas (Portugal)
    68. Hans Tilkowski (W Germany)
    67. József Mlynarczyk (Poland)
    66. Antonio Carbajal (Mexico)
    65. Eddy Pieters Graafland (Holland)
    64. Hugo Orlando Gatti (Argentina)
    63. José Luis Félix Chilavert (Paraguay)
    62. Luis Arconada (Spain)
    61. Thomas Nkono (Cameroon)
    60. David Seaman (England)
    59. Franz Platko (Hungary)
    58. Gianluca Pagliuca (Italy)
    57. Harry Gregg (N Ireland)
    56. Jean De Bie (Belgium)
    55. Antonio Roma (Argentina)
    54. Émerson Leão (Brazil)
    53. Thomas Ravelli (Sweden)
    52. Angelo Peruzzi (Italy)
    51. Yevgheni Rudakov (USSR)
    50. Karl-Oskar Svensson (Sweden)
    49. Fabien Barthez (France)
    48. Giuliano Sarti (Italy)
    47. Viliam Schroif (Czechoslovakia)
    46. Jan van Beveren (Holland)
    45. Michel Preud'homme (Belgium)
    44. Enrico Albertosi (Italy)
    43. Sergio Livingstone (Chile)
    42. José Ángel Iríbar (Spain)
    41. Edwin van der Sar (Holland)
    40. Samuel Hardy (England)
    39. Jürgen Croy (E Germany)
    38. Andoni Zubizarreta (Spain)
    37. Károly Zsák (Hungary)
    36. Ray Clemence (England)
    35. Roque Gaston Máspoli (Uruguay)
    34. Alberto Costa Pereira (Portugal)
    33. Frank Swift (England)
    32. Walter Zenga (Italy)
    31. Iker Casillas (Spain)
    30. Walter Zeman (Austria)
    29. Ivo Viktor (Czechoslovakia)
    28. Antoni Ramallets (Spain)
    27. Alexej Khomitch (USSR)
    26.Jan Tomaszewski (Poland)
    25.Harald Schumacher (W Germany)
    24. Andrés Mazali (Uruguay)
    23. Ronnie Hellström (Sweden)
    22. Vladimir Beara (Yugoslavia)
    21. Rinat Dasaev (USSR)
    20. Giampiero Combi (Italy)
    19.Jean-Marie Pfaff (Belgium)
    18.Gilmar dos Santos Neves (Brazil)
    17.Ubaldo Matildo Fillol (Argentina)
    16. Oliver Kahn (Germany)
    15.Ladislao Mazurkiewicz (Uruguay)
    14.Patrick Jennings (N Ireland)
    13.Rudi Hiden (Austria)
    12. Neville Southall (Wales)
    11.Amadeo Raúl Carrizo (Argentina)
    10.Gyula Grosics (Hungary)
    9.František Plánicka (Czechoslovakia)
    8. Gianluigi Buffon (Italy)
    7. Sepp Maier (W Germany)
    6. Gordon Banks (England)
    5.Ricardo Zamora (Spain)
    4.Peter Shilton (England)
    3.Dino Zoff (Italy)
    2.Peter Schmeichel (Denmark)
    1.Lev Yashin (USSR)
     
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  3. comme

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    Feb 21, 2003
    Breakdown by nation (with thanks to Gregoriak)

    GERMANY (11)

    92. Bodo Ilgner
    89. Toni Turek
    86. Bert Trautmann
    84. Heinrich Stuhlfauth
    81. Hans Jakob
    72. Andreas Köpke
    68. Hans Tilkowski
    39. Jürgen Croy
    25. Harald Schumacher
    16. Oliver Kahn
    07. Sepp Maier


    ITALY (9)

    90. Aldo Olivieri
    58. Gianluca Pagliuca
    52. Angelo Peruzzi
    48. Giuliano Sarti
    44. Enrico Albertosi
    32. Walter Zenga
    20. Giampiero Combi
    08. Gianluigi Buffon
    03. Dino Zoff


    ENGLAND (7)

    70. Harry Hibbs
    60. David Seaman
    40. Samuel Hardy
    36. Ray Clemence
    33. Frank Swift
    06. Gordon Banks
    04. Peter Shilton


    SPAIN (7)

    94. Paco Buyo
    62. Luis Arconada
    42. José Ángel Iríbar
    38. Andoni Zubizarreta
    31. Iker Casillas
    28. Antoni Ramallets
    05. Ricardo Zamora


    ARGENTINA (5)

    80. Américo Tesoriere
    64. Hugo Orlando Gatti
    55. Antonio Roma
    17. Ubaldo Matildo Fillol
    11. Amadeo Raúl Carrizo


    BRAZIL (5)

    100.Carlos Jose Castilho
    85. Barbosa
    73. Manga
    54. Émerson Leão
    18. Gilmar dos Santos Neves


    HOLLAND (4)

    71. Hans van Breukelen
    65. Eddy Pieters Graafland
    46. Jan van Beveren
    41. Edwin van der Sar


    USSR (4)

    51. Yevgheni Rudakov
    27. Alexej Khomitch
    21. Rinat Dasaev
    01. Lev Yashin


    BELGIUM (4)

    88. Jean Nicolay
    56. Jean De Bie
    45. Michel Preud'homme
    19. Jean-Marie Pfaff


    HUNGARY (4)

    98. Antal Szabo
    59. Franz Platko
    37. Károly Zsák
    10. Gyula Grosics


    URUGUAY (4)

    91. Rodolfo Rodriguez
    35. Roque Gaston Máspoli
    24. Andrés Mazali
    15. Ladislao Mazurkiewicz


    PORTUGAL (4)

    96. Manuel Bento
    83. Vitor Baia
    69. Vítor Damas
    34. Alberto Costa Pereira

    CZECHOSLOVAKIA (3)

    47. Villiam Schroif
    29. Ivo Victor
    9. Frantisek Planicka

    FRANCE (3)

    75. Pierre Chayrigues
    74. Julien Darui
    49. Fabien Barthez

    NORTHERN IRELAND (3)

    93. Elisha Scott
    57. Harry Gregg
    14. Pat Jennings

    SWEDEN (3)

    53. Thomas Ravelli
    50. Karl-Oskar Svensson
    23. Ronnie Hellstrom

    YUGOSLAVIA (3)

    87. Ivan Curkovic
    79. Milutin Soskic
    22. Vladimir Beara

    AUSTRIA (2)

    30. Walter Zeman
    13. Rudi Hiden

    BULGARIA (2)

    97. Simeon Simeonov
    78. Georgi Naydenov

    CAMEROON (2)

    95. Joseph-Antoine Bell
    61. Thomas Nkono

    POLAND (2)

    67. Jozsef Mlynarczyk
    26. Jan Tomaszewski

    WALES (2)

    82. Jack Kelsey
    12. Neville Southall

    CHILE (1)

    43. Sergio Livingstone

    COLOMBIA (1)

    77. Rene Higuita

    DENMARK (1)

    2. Peter Schmeichel

    MEXICO (1)

    66. Antonio Carbajal

    PARAGUAY (1)

    63. Jose Luis Chilavert

    SCOTLAND (1)

    76. Ronnie Simpson

    USA (1)

    99. Brad Friedel
     
  4. argentine soccer fan

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    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
  5. comme

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    Feb 21, 2003
    Keepers in alphabetical order:

    44. Enrico Albertosi (Italy) (GK)

    62. Luis Arconada (Spain) (GK)

    83. Vitor Baia (Portugal) (GK)

    6. Gordon Banks (England) (GK)

    85. Barbosa (Brazil) (GK)

    49. Fabien Barthez (France) (GK)

    22. Vladimir Beara (Yugoslavia) (GK)

    95. Joseph-Antoine Bell (Cameroon) (GK)

    96. Manuel Bento (Portugal) (GK)

    8. Gianluigi Buffon (Italy) (GK)

    94. Paco Buyo (Spain) (GK)

    66. Antonio Carbajal (Mexico) (GK)

    11.Amadeo Raúl Carrizo (Argentina) (GK)

    31. Iker Casillas (Spain) (GK)

    100. Carlos Jose Castilho (Brazil) (GK)

    75. Pierre Chayriguès (France) (GK)

    63. José Luis Félix Chilavert (Paraguay) (GK)

    36. Ray Clemence (England) (GK)

    20. Giampiero Combi (Italy) (GK)

    39. Jürgen Croy (E Germany) (GK)

    87. Ivan Curkovic (Yugoslavia) (GK)

    69. Vítor Damas (Portugal) (GK)

    74. Julien Darui (France) (GK)

    21. Rinat Dasaev (USSR) (GK)

    56. Jean De Bie (Belgium) (GK)

    17.Ubaldo Matildo Fillol (Argentina) (GK)

    99. Brad Friedel (USA) (GK)

    64. Hugo Orlando Gatti (Argentina) (GK)

    18.Gilmar dos Santos Neves (Brazil) (GK)

    57. Harry Gregg (N Ireland) (GK)

    10.Gyula Grosics (Hungary) (GK)

    40. Samuel Hardy (England) (GK)

    23. Ronnie Hellström (Sweden) (GK)

    70. Harry Hibbs (England) (GK)

    13.Rudi Hiden (Austria) (GK)

    77. René Higuíta (Colombia) (GK)

    92. Bodo Ilgner (W Germany) (GK)

    42. José Ángel Iríbar (Spain) (GK)

    81. Hans Jakob (W Germany)

    14.Patrick Jennings (N Ireland) (GK)

    16. Oliver Kahn (Germany) (GK)

    82. Jack Kelsey (Wales) (GK)

    27. Alexej Khomitch (USSR) (GK)

    72. Andreas Köpke (Germany) (GK)

    54. Émerson Leão (Brazil) (GK)

    43. Sergio Livingstone (Chile) (GK)

    7. Sepp Maier (W Germany) (GK)

    73. Manga (Brazil) (GK)

    35. Roque Gaston Máspoli (Uruguay)

    24. Andrés Mazali (Uruguay) (GK)

    15.Ladislao Mazurkiewicz (Uruguay) (GK)

    67. József Mlynarczyk (Poland) (GK)

    78. Georgi Naydenov (Bulgaria) (GK)

    88. Jean Nicolay (Belgium) (GK)

    61. Thomas Nkono (Cameroon) (GK)

    90. Aldo Olivieri (Italy) (GK)

    58. Gianluca Pagliuca (Italy) (GK)

    34. Alberto Costa Pereira (Portugal) (GK)

    52. Angelo Peruzzi (Italy) (GK)

    19.Jean-Marie Pfaff (Belgium) (GK)

    65. Eddy Pieters Graafland (Holland) (GK)

    59. Franz Platko (Hungary) (GK)

    9.František Plánicka (Czechoslovakia) (GK)

    45. Michel Preud'homme (Belgium) (GK)

    28. Antoni Ramallets (Spain) (GK)

    53. Thomas Ravelli (Sweden) (GK)

    91. Rodolfo Rodriguez (Uruguay) (GK)

    55. Antonio Roma (Argentina) (GK)

    51. Yevgheni Rudakov (USSR)

    48. Giuliano Sarti (Italy) (GK)

    2.Peter Schmeichel (Denmark) (GK)

    47. Viliam Schroif (Czechoslovakia) (GK)

    25.Harald Schumacher (W Germany) (GK)

    93. Elisha Scott (Northern Ireland) (GK)

    60. David Seaman (England) (GK)

    4.Peter Shilton (England) (GK)

    97. Simeon Simeonov (Bulgaria) (GK)

    76. Ronnie Simpson (Scotland) (GK)

    79. Milutin Soskic (Yugoslavia) (GK)

    12. Neville Southall (Wales) (GK)

    84. Heinrich Stuhlfauth (Germany) (GK)

    50. Karl-Oskar Svensson (Sweden) (GK)

    33. Frank Swift (England) (GK)

    98. Antal Szabo (Hungary) (GK)

    80. Américo Tesoriere (Argentina) (GK)

    68. Hans Tilkowski (W Germany) (GK)

    26.Jan Tomaszewski (Poland) (GK)

    86. Bert Trautmann (Germany) (GK)

    89. Toni Turek (W Germany) (GK)

    46. Jan van Beveren (Holland) (GK)

    71. Hans van Breukelen (Holland) (GK)

    41. Edwin van der Sar (Holland) (GK)

    29. Ivo Viktor (Czechoslovakia) (GK)

    1.Lev Yashin (USSR) (GK)

    5.Ricardo Zamora (Spain) (GK)

    30. Walter Zeman (Austria) (GK)

    32. Walter Zenga (Italy) (GK)

    3.Dino Zoff (Italy) (GK)

    37. Károly Zsák (Hungary) (GK)

    38. Andoni Zubizarreta (Spain) (GK)
     
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  6. undertaker123456

    undertaker123456 New Member

    Oct 26, 2011
    Club:
    AEK Athens
    the only thing i have to say is that is diffucult to compare old keepers with new keepers. Before 50 years the way that the players was learnig to play football is different from the moder way.In my opinion before 50 to 40 years players were playing football for their enterteiment and nowdays they play football mainly to gain money.
     
  7. JamesBH11

    JamesBH11 Member+

    Sep 17, 2004

    RELATIVITY is the key word!


    for example: How that OLD player did against others in his era versus the NEW one versus his competitors - Got it?

    For example:
    - Pele made 3 times the effort other best players in his era, would be regarded as BETTER *higher rated than i.e. a Messi with 1.5 times over his compatriots at the moment.

    - A Yashin in particular could have saved many PK's (in his era) as 2-3 times effort of others (same era) could do - so he would be rated as better than let's say a Buffon, Casillas in the present time with not "clear cut" above other GK in last decade!
     
  8. tony-soprano37

    Dec 5, 2008
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    jan van beveren at nr. 46 but this clown jean marie pfaff at nr. 19 ?? based on what ???
     
  9. Alexander88

    Alexander88 Member

    Jan 26, 2013
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Schmeichel better than Buffon??
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    Zoff was not absolutely better than Buffon and even that shit goalkeeper English
    England had only the goalkeeper of shit.

    Jasin is overrated because he won the Golden Ball, had the reflexes of a sloth, today many are superior to him
     
  10. Alexander88

    Alexander88 Member

    Jan 26, 2013
    Club:
    AC Milan
    In this forum judged players only based on the trophies
     
  11. RoyOfTheRovers

    Jul 24, 2009
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England




    ["Howls, HOWLS of derisive laughter, Bruce!!" :ROFLMAO: & :rolleyes:!!]
     
  12. Alexander88

    Alexander88 Member

    Jan 26, 2013
    Club:
    AC Milan
    plak i mutitit
     
  13. Berat Tugrul Ugurlu

    Berat Tugrul Ugurlu New Member

    May 22, 2015
    Club:
    Fenerbahce SK

    Schmeicheln was one of the most notable keeper ever
     
  14. Gregoire1

    Gregoire1 Member

    Dec 4, 2020
    Top-5 peaks in last 25 years:

    1.Buffon
    2.Cech
    3.Alisson
    4.Kahn
    5.Courtois
     
  15. Isaías Silva Serafim

    Real Madrid
    Brazil
    Dec 2, 2021
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I think van der Sar in 07/08 was better than Cech in 11/12
     
  16. moodiomemo

    moodiomemo Member

    sao paulo fc
    Jul 15, 2007
    Club:
    Sao Paulo FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    ow
    my
    god
    what the origin of this list?(here - the forum? ifhhs, rsssf???)
     
  17. comme

    comme Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 21, 2003
    It's from me.
     
  18. moodiomemo

    moodiomemo Member

    sao paulo fc
    Jul 15, 2007
    Club:
    Sao Paulo FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    andoni zubizarreta was champion in athletic bilbao and goes to barcelona in the second half of the 80s
    He was in that cruyff team in the end of the 80s and first half of the 90s
    he plays 1986,1990 ,1994 and 1998 world cups and euros 1988 and 1996
    He was not as good goalkeeper as the people used to think
    He fail in a lot of key moments from spain (world cup 1986,1990,1994,1998) and for barcelona (ucl final 1994)
    I believe the good keeper is the opposite
    The good keeper show how good he is in the key moments of the match
    Barcelona (cruyff dream team )and Spain(in the 80s and 90s) must have a lot of trophies if they have another good goalkeeper than arconada(euro 84) and zubizarreta
    Santiago Canizares not as reliable keeper too
    Casillas is the best spanish goalkeeper spain produce till these days(better than zamora,ramallets,iribar , arconada, zubi , cañizares etc)
    Id like to comment another thing
    Taffarell open all the doors to brazilian goalkeepers in the second half of the 80s and in the 90s
    After Taffarell few names from brazil(goalkeepers) plays in europe . He open the europe to brazilian goalkeepers and he was a revolutionary talent in his position
    Zico for example never did a goal in taffarell
    He had wonderful carrer and he deserve be in all world goalkeeper lists
    Another name here from south america is roberto rojas
    Im from Santos(Brazil) , all my family is closed with the club and we live near the santos stadum in the same neighbrohood, BUT im a Sao Paulo fan since i was child(check the profile pic)
    When Sao Paulo sign with Rojas in 1987 the club was thinking got signed with the copa america 1987 goalkeeper when Rojas had a wonderful performance and lost the final to uruguay
    Another great and revolutionary goalkeeper from south america. If my memory not fail Rojas had proposals from european clubs in that period of the world cup 1990 but he ended your carreer
    Theres a lot of names to mention forgotten in this list - cejas(argentina),pereyra(urugay and penarol), carlos (brazil - unlucky goalkeeper),gato fernandez (paraguay) etc
     
  19. moodiomemo

    moodiomemo Member

    sao paulo fc
    Jul 15, 2007
    Club:
    Sao Paulo FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    the best goalkeeper i had the opportunity to watch alive in the field was rodolfo rodriguez
     
  20. moodiomemo

    moodiomemo Member

    sao paulo fc
    Jul 15, 2007
    Club:
    Sao Paulo FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    sergio goycoechea not in the list . as i did a post about zubi , goycoechea is not as gifted than zubi
    hes smaller and zubi had reach bigger than goyco
    Technically they were equal to me
    BUT
    in the key moments goyco used to show who he was
    zubi do not grow as goalkeeper in these key moments
    In valencia in 1995 , 1996 , 1997 he lost position to cañi (canizares) and did thesame kind of mistakes he used to do in barcelona
     
  21. moodiomemo

    moodiomemo Member

    sao paulo fc
    Jul 15, 2007
    Club:
    Sao Paulo FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    and numbers, statistics, graphics and youtube
    lol
     
  22. PrimoCalcio

    PrimoCalcio Member

    Milan/Napoli
    Italy
    Oct 14, 2019
    No Neuer or Casillas on this list?
     
  23. Gregoire1

    Gregoire1 Member

    Dec 4, 2020
    they are 6th and 7th in my list...
     
  24. Buyo

    Buyo Member

    Real Madrid
    Spain
    Dec 20, 2020
    #124 Buyo, Nov 16, 2023
    Last edited: Nov 16, 2023
    With the help mainly of the transfermarkt.com website (but also consulted other websites in some cases) I have obtained some ratios of some of the most outstanding goalkeepers in history up to the 1950s or so. The data is not 100% accurate since transfermarkt has incomplete information in some cases, but I think it still serves to give us a general idea.

    Initially I have only taken matches with the national team and players who have played at least 25 games (I compare only national team matches because I think it is fairer since there are leagues in which much more goals are scored than in others due to their different levels of quality):

    Goals per game:

    upload_2023-11-16_14-20-15.png

    Clean sheets:

    upload_2023-11-16_14-21-2.png

    I find the numbers of Zamora and Tesoriere spectacular, conceding less than one goal per game in those days was something “almost miraculous” and they also have a clean sheet percentage that is similar to that of some of the great contemporary goalkeepers like Buffon (0.438 ), Banks (0.479), Maier (0.453), Schmeichel (0.421) or Neuer (0.410). Of course, they are far from Casillas (0.611), Zoff (0.554), Van der Sar (0.554) or Shilton (0.528) but these goalkeepers played in an era in which fewer goals were scored per game than in that of Zamora and Tesoriere.

    Although I believe that they are less representative samples due to fewer matches, I have also obtained data from goalkeepers who have been internationalized between 19 and 24 times with their national team:

    Goals per game:

    upload_2023-11-16_14-26-1.png

    Goals per game:

    upload_2023-11-16_14-26-33.png


    Here we see that Frank Swift also moves at similar levels to those of the Spanish and Argentine goalkeepers, although playing less than half as many games as the other two.

    As a final comment I will say that Zamora's goals per game ratio is greatly hindered by the England 7-1 Spain in 1931 because without that match he would have an average of 0.778 goals per game, something incredible for the 1920s and 1930s twentieth century. That 7-1 score was the perfect revenge for Spain 4-3 England in 1929, which marked the English's first defeat against a team from Continental Europe (I think the English came into that match with a record of 23 wins and a single draw against to teams from continental Europe).

    For me Ricardo Zamora is one of the 3 best goalkeepers of all time and also the main candidate for best Spanish player in history.
     
  25. Al Gabiru

    Al Gabiru Member

    Jan 28, 2020
    I don't think goals per game are a good criterion for analyzing a goalkeeper. Since his defense system should receive some credits.

    The number of clean sheets is a little better. I don't think it's a coincidence if a goalkeeper spent several games without conceding a goal, it shows at least leadership, security, but clean sheets suffer from the same problem: how much is due to the defense system.

    Goalkeeper ratings in newspapers could be taken into account, in the absence of more in-depth data on past players, such as save of the opponents' shots on target, which is the most common method that Opta and other statistics companies use today (with negative points for errors resulting in a goal, If i'm not wrong, they give extra points for saves in open plays, penalties and big chances too).
     

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