The “Yes X” Factor - The Jadon Sancho Thread

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  1. JC7rox

    JC7rox Member+

    Manchester United FC, LAFC
    Jun 11, 2004
    West Coast, Cali!
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    Manchester United FC
    When Sancho turns up to light up the Saudi league, then you’ll see that EtH was the real problem.
     
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  2. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    I know im one of the biased guys for him, even though its imnpossible to defend him for this transgression.

    Having said that, he hasnt played for months. This is essentially preseason for him. Never expected him to just start doing decent.
     
  3. Sofabloke

    Sofabloke Member+

    Dec 24, 2003
    Mu
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Bad few days for Sancho;

    - his route back (apology aside) disappears with EtH reported to be staying

    - he route back to BvB now in question with his backer Edin Terzic resigning

    Nuri Sahin is apparently due to take over at BvB, he was one of assistants so will have knowledge of Sancho.

    Remains to be seen how highly he rates him and if he wants him back ...
     
  4. MizzouMUFC

    MizzouMUFC Red Card

    Apr 10, 2010
    Places
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    The bigger issue is, Dortmund will never pay up for Sancho. I guarantee they’ll ask for another loan or a loan to buy with some piddly fee attached. We need to look outside of Dortmund if we want to recoup 40-50 mil for him.
     
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  5. Sofabloke

    Sofabloke Member+

    Dec 24, 2003
    Mu
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    Two hurdles to get over with Sancho transfer, one is a suitable fee (ideally) and the main one which is Sancho agreeing to go (especially wrt his huge salary).

    BvB seems like the only club he may be willing to take a pay cut for - which pretty much makes them the only club in the running.

    As such they can pay what they like (within reasonable minimums).

    So our choices are to take a huge write down on his fee, keep him and force him and EtH to work it out or cave and let him take a loan to BvB (or similar) on big wages again.

    Just hope we dont cave on another loan …
     
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  6. Anonymous_United

    Manchester United
    Brazil
    Jul 13, 2018
    No point making him stay, we can't afford disruptive element in dressing room. If you want cultural chang, sancho needs to be sold or loaned out.
     
  7. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

    Staff Member

    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    Antilla
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
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    Dortmund isn't buying Sancho.

    if you're familiar with the Bundesliga, Dortmund doesn't even do €25m signings.

    they are not going to pay even close to half of the £73m they sold him for. even if the numbers swapped places they still wouldn't consider it.

    they simply will not break or deviate from their financial model for that
     
  8. SF19

    SF19 Member+

    Jun 8, 2013
    They might agree another loan, if anything. Or Sancho takes the first offer he gets to leave for another EPL club. Crystal Palace if they sell Eze and Olise? It's not that out there as a possibility.
     
  9. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

    Staff Member

    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    Antilla
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    Manchester United FC
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    agreed. at best (and it's a stretch) it would be a multiple player offer + a small amount of cash.

    unlike United, they are a well run club. they're also not stupid enough to believe if they spent £40m on Sancho it would be a forever signing.

    they are keenly aware he will want to move on sooner than later to try win the big prizes
     
  10. Sofabloke

    Sofabloke Member+

    Dec 24, 2003
    Mu
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    I dont see him agreeing a move to CP and they definitely cant come close to his >£300kpw wages.

    We have already made a massive financial loss on Sancho, we just havent realised it yet (financial pun intended ;)).
     
  11. SF19

    SF19 Member+

    Jun 8, 2013
    Personally, I rate Sancho and I do think he has a big future ahead of himself still. It's really hard to say if he can still have that future with Man U. Looks doubtful.

    Agreed, he would need to lower his wage demands should he leave (wherever that may be). The one thing that might work in that favor for us is that he can't afford to stay on the bench. He needs to play or his career will really suffer for it. So I can see him agreeing to lower wages on that basis alone.
     
  12. MizzouMUFC

    MizzouMUFC Red Card

    Apr 10, 2010
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    Anyone see that Dortmund hired Sahin? He’s gotta be in his 30s still right?
     
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  13. Anonymous_United

    Manchester United
    Brazil
    Jul 13, 2018
    Yeah not so long ago he was playing for Dortmund, checked, he is just 35.
     
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  14. Anonymous_United

    Manchester United
    Brazil
    Jul 13, 2018
    No way back, we will hear/read more in coming days or months.
     
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  15. CybrSlydr

    CybrSlydr Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Jun 30, 2013
    Casper, WY
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    I've been over Sancho for a long time. Guy needs gone now.
     
  16. SF19

    SF19 Member+

    Jun 8, 2013
    A lot of great talents are temperamental. Hopefully he wises up and comes good. Could be a phenom.
     
  17. CybrSlydr

    CybrSlydr Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Jun 30, 2013
    Casper, WY
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    ******** Sancho with a broken toothbrush.
     
  18. SF19

    SF19 Member+

    Jun 8, 2013
    Scamacca, leading the line tonight for Italy, didn't get called up back in March for staying up to late playing on his playstation. Spalletti said, "we are going to win the Euros, not call of duty" when asked why he dropped him.
     
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  19. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    Honestly, its in our best interest to make this work.

    He's not gonna take a paycut. Were not really doing ourselves favors by continuously loaning him out. We cant afford to buy a lot of players. Id rather him than Antony. Were already selling Greenwood.
     
  20. MizzouMUFC

    MizzouMUFC Red Card

    Apr 10, 2010
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    If Sancho could swallow his ego and act like an adult, my guess is he’d be welcomed back. But nothing about his character tells me that’s something he’s willing to do, so it’s a guy we’re better not having in the dressing room.

    Also, attitude and current situation aside…is it possible he’s just another guy that was made to look better than he is by the Dortmund setup? He wouldn’t be the first guy (Kagawa, Miki) from there that fooled us. Since coming to United he’s put in a good performance maybe 25% of the time and has no real standout performances. In his loan back this season it’s been about the same and he’s never looked great for England either (although he’s barely ever been given a chance). He might just not be the guy we thought he was for whatever reason.
     
  21. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
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    But he won't take the basic steps to do those things. He needs to be a big finish in a small pond so he can go to Spain or something.
     
  22. Sofabloke

    Sofabloke Member+

    Dec 24, 2003
    Mu
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    Manchester United FC
    Phelan has been doing some interviews and one of the things he said was that Sancho told Ole they had signed the wrong player if they expected him to play on the right.

    Given he played a lot for BvB on the right and also played there when he returned on loan, that is kind of annoying and completely the wrong attitude.

    At BvB Sancho makes more of an effort to fit in and please it seems than he does with us.
     
  23. MizzouMUFC

    MizzouMUFC Red Card

    Apr 10, 2010
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    He strikes me as a guy that’s always been more talented than the other players so he thinks he should be catered to. He’s essentially expecting the Ronaldo special treatment but he hasn’t earned that treatment.
     
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  24. CybrSlydr

    CybrSlydr Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Jun 30, 2013
    Casper, WY
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    What about Lingard?...
     
  25. Sofabloke

    Sofabloke Member+

    Dec 24, 2003
    Mu
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    Manchester United FC
    Doesnt help us given we have to shift him, but apparently a lot of clubs telling Sancho agent that he “isnt the right fit” for their club.

    Hopefully the penny dropping with Sancho & entourage that he is perceived as a discipline case because of his sh1te attitude.
     

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