I simply don't see the transfer of David Beckham to Real Madrid benefitting Man.Utd in ANY way. They don't need money. Alex Ferguson already had a £30 million budget for new players, without the sale of Beckham. Despite ignorant opinion to the contrary, David Beckham is a world-class player and the influence he had on the Man.Utd team is going to be extremely difficult to replace. Arguably the two biggest clubs in the world - Manchester United and Real Madrid, so who better to sell your star and the most marketable, recognisable player in the world to? There goes the Asian market and a huge source of income. So, in summing up, Manchester United lose their star player for a pitiful fee, turn Real Madrid into the most glamourous and marketable team on the planet, knock a huge chunk off their own club's worth - whilst increasing Madrid's to the same extent. All this because Alex Ferguson doesn't like Beckham anymore. So much for one person not being allowed to be bigger than the club - it seems Alex Ferguson's decision is final, even if it's not in the best interest of the club. The only thing Manchester United can do to at least somehow make up for this, is to get Ronaldinho, van der Vaart and somehow steal Raul from Madrid. Crappy day.
What really matters is on the field and I really think Beckham is overated. He scored a whopping 6 goals in the Premiership last year. His play while great at times was inconsistant. I won't miss him. I'm more excited now to see who will be coming here for next season. Number 5, 7 and number 9 shirts are vacant, time to fill them up!
That's all? How about signing Ronaldo, Raul, Zidane, Figo, and Roberto Carlos from Real Madrid? Ok, ok - settle down. I'm just messing with you. Seriously though - that's the "least" they could do? lol - high expectations...
I think the only winners in this are Real Madrid, in a purely financial way. Beckham is no longer the star and will actually be fighting for playing time. Manchester United gets 25 million pounds -- possibly -- over the next 4 years. And it might not even be that much, since 10 million euros are conditioned on Real's CL performances. No one knows what those conditions are, but how messed up would it be if we were to devalue our return by beating Real in CL. Plus, United didn't need to sell him to buy good players, as the Board had allocated £ 30 million to spend without selling any players. But the fact is that Beckham's benefit to any other team will never match his benefit to United. He was the second of this current group of players that came up through the youth system and forms the core of the team (after Giggs) but he's the unqualified leader of that bunch. Don't underestimate the impact of his departure in terms of on the field leadership. No matter who gets bought, he's not going to fill that void.
sick of dis ************************e. beckham WILL start. real stealing his a$$ from barca, real scooping him up to embarrass ManU in champs league next year, real will probably set up a US tour after asia tour with these monstrous stars... aside from all this ************************e, beckham starts and real will go on to become the most...i don't know guys fill in the blank. fucqing unbelievable!!! i'm moving to madrid...
Re: Re: Terrible Decision From Man.Utd Sure. They have to do something, and something BIG. They're the biggest club in the world, despite what Real are doing now (you can't buy that extra "thing" Man.Utd have over even Real Madrid), they're acting like the lesser club and allowing Real Madrid to act like they're superior. It's going to take something huge to swing this back around into United's favour, I just hope they have such plans. We now have £50 million + to spend, so being realistic (unlike before) I'd like to see: Ronaldinho van der Vaart Denilson Diego Tristan
What about that midfielder from, is it, Valencia or Barcelona? Barjya or something? I heard they wanted him. And you figure they must get Rolnaldhnio (horrible spelling) or the entire off-season is a failure. If there is anyone at Leverkusan worth signing, they may be able to get them. But this may be all beside the point. If there is a player Ferguson wants, then he can get him. As for the transfer of Beckham, I feel it was destined to happen and you don't want a 40 million dollar player on the bench. But haggle the pirce Manchester!
the Valencia player's name is Baraja and he is very good. it is not a failure (overall) solely if Man U do not get Ronaldinho.
True, but the money we would make by advancing in the CL over Real would outweigh any monetary benefit from Becks' transfer clause not being tripped.
That is not what news says!! Transfer was a big benefit to United, economical benefit for the club and Beckham is very happy going to Madrid because he will develope his career. Beckham and United were the ones who accepted the deal and they are happy.
ManU can get rid of n. butt, --roy keane is old it showed in the real madrid series --wesbrown-injured and hes pitiful --neville bros.--average. and they couldve gotten rid of veron NOT BECKHAM..... well now they need a midfielder,defender and a solid striker. imagine manu had stam now in the backline well we can thank SAF. midfield-ronaldinho,srna striker-totti,kluivert,hasselbank......... also compare real madrids bench with manchester uniteds the manu bench is awful fortune c'mon now lets go manU
It is very simple to find this information on the planetfootball site. They have OPTA stats for every major player in Europe. Look here: http://www.planetfootball.com/player.asp?clid=&cpid=23&plid=1818&Title=David+Beckham The player card shows general info, including goals scored in all competitions. If you click the "OPTA stats" button below the photo, you see a detailed account of his league play: http://www.planetfootball.com/playe...clid=1&cpid=23&Title=David+Beckham+OPTA+Stats Note that while Beckham *only* scored 6 goals and tallied 8 assists in league play, he also chipped in some excellent performances in other competitions. The assist total puts him well up the list in the premiership. I believe that Thierry Henry, Geremi and Eyal Berkovic recorded more than Beckham. There are probably a few others, as well, but 8 puts him well up the list. Beckham generally had an off year from a goal-scoring standpoint, but there so many players that score goals for United . . . . Also, he did miss 8 or so matches. It is true that Man Utd has metamorphosized away from the tactics that ideally suit Beckham's skills. Playing with a lone striker much of the time - and one who is good in the air but is by no means a monster - is going to limit the opportunities for scoring on crossed headers. And many of the goals that a Scholes, Forlan or Giggs scores come from rebounds, misclearances and interceptions. When Veron plays, the focus of the attack takes place up the center of the field more than it once did at Man Utd. Some of these things account for Beckham's statistical drops. Although he had a simply stellar year 01/02 statistically. One interesting note: Man Utd did not score a goal from a corner kick this season.
*sigh* We scored two in the league and one in the Champions League. Although, that's kinda splitting hairs, isn't it?
Ruud scored off a Beckham corner kick the second to last game of the season, against Charlton. Not sure why they didn't count that one.
Still, we went over 250 corners without a goal... why didn't we sign John Carew when we had the chance? I remember Andy Gray sayign it was 252 corners unscored moments before Ruud got one in the Charlton game
Man. U. got the better end of the deal. Man U got the better end of the deal. In two years, Beckham was going to be a free agent & Man U wouldn't have earned a dime if he went to another team, which was a real live possibility. By selling Beckham now, they are going to get the maximum dollar for him. If SAF uses this money wisely and acquires several good players, Man U will be a stronger team. On the other hand, Real Madrid desperately needed to buy some top flight defenders. Instead, they blew the bank on Beckham, when they already have a surplus of good attacking players. Real Madrid will still have a shoddy defense. If SAF spends the money earned from Beckham on some good defenders, a good goalkeeper, and another attacking player, I think Man U will be one of the favorites to win the Champions League in the 2004-04 season.
actually, they did. it happened finally in the penultimate game of the season Beckham's spot kicks have been well-glorified as well; but he did not score on any of the attempts for United in the EPL (he did score 1 in the CL, and 1 against Greece)
Re: Man. U. got the better end of the deal. Yep. Seems everyone knew that Real Madrid needed a better defense if they wanted to win the Champions League next year. Everyone, that is, except for Real. Instead of bringing in two great defenders, they have wasted their money on a midfielder, the last thing they needed. They gave up 5 goals to Man United in the two games last season, and 4 to Juventus, who beat them. What they really needed was a player who could hold the defensive line. Instead, they opted for a player who is all offense. But I guess when you are Real Madrid, money is no object...
Re: Re: Man. U. got the better end of the deal. EXACTLY my thoughts. But I don't think del Bosque had any say in the matter. I'm also baffled at Arsene Wenger's latest statements regarding Amaruso - he said that he wasnt interested in Amaruso (I agree!), but the reason given was that "he's not looking for another defender". huh? the TWO positions Arsenal need to fill are both at the back, and apparently he's interested in Kewel. Perhaps they need more forwards sitting on the bench. But I do love the fact that the 1st Arsenal transfer move of the season was to pay Kanu a reported 1.5m to "go away"....
With Real you should always be able to score against them, but by the same token they can score against you. Having watched Becks play both for United and England this season, I think hes still a quality player, who will be missed. Its not just goals and assists its those other passess which create assists. The slick passing moves with Scholes and Giggs etc. The only good thing besides the fact that we got some money(if things had been handled differently earlier in the seaon he may have started negotiations for a new contract), is that its kick up the a**e for other players who may not have been giving it everything. ie if Becks can go I can go 2.
I definately agree here. Man U gets some decent money for an overated player at his prime and should be able to replace him with some quality youngsters. Hopefully, they will pick up Duff & Ronaldhino as a minimum. Plus, Man U played better down the end of the Premiership without Becks. Time to let Luke Chadwick get some decent playing time.
Re: Re: Re: Terrible Decision From Man.Utd I agree with adding Van Der Vaart, Ronaldinho & Tristan but not Denilson. Van Der Vaart would add a quality winger, Ronaldinho is just awsome - enough said, and Tristan is a pure goalscorer. I'd also like to see Man U look to add Roy Makaay since he's awsome and has experience pairing up with Ruud up top for Holland. And you can't forget Duff.