Teams We Want To Win

Discussion in 'D.C. United' started by DCU9ted, Sep 13, 2002.

  1. DCU9ted

    DCU9ted New Member

    Aug 24, 2002
    Rockville
    Metros at UNITED - 7:30
    Fire at CREW - 7:30
    RAPIDS at Wizards - 8:00
    Revs at BURN - 8:30
    Quakes at GALAXY - 11:00

    Somebody correct me if Im wrong so I know who to root against.

    Thanks
     
  2. mcontento

    mcontento Member

    Jun 26, 2000
    Catalina Wine Mixer
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Burn
    Quakes (cuz we own those punks)
    Rapids
    Crew
     
  3. CHICO13

    CHICO13 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 4, 2001
    SECTION 135
    Club:
    The Strongest La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    We gotta root for the Crew? :rolleyes:
     
  4. GoDC

    GoDC Member

    Nov 23, 1999
    Hamilton, VA
    Yes, we can pass Chicago, not Columbus.

    For us to get in!!!

    Columbus beats Chicago twice.
    We win twice.
    NY beats NE or ties NE.

    Might be other scenarios but I am not going to work taht hard to figure them out.
     
  5. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Believe me, it sucked rooting for you guys last night too.
     
  6. ursula

    ursula Member

    Feb 21, 1999
    Republic of Cascadia
    LMAO! Sometimes this board gets funny.

    So folks, if we do still have a chance at getting in, who do you think we will beat: Chicago or KC?
     
  7. GoDC

    GoDC Member

    Nov 23, 1999
    Hamilton, VA
    Let's hope for KC. At least it is a grass field and no fans at their games to give us a hard time.
     
  8. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Do you really want to get in this year?
     
  9. GoDC

    GoDC Member

    Nov 23, 1999
    Hamilton, VA
    Beats ending the season next Thursday.
     
  10. CHICO13

    CHICO13 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 4, 2001
    SECTION 135
    Club:
    The Strongest La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    It's as much knocking the Mutts out as us getting in. And once we're in we'd be looking at getting a healthy team with momentum. I'll take that anytime.
     
  11. shawn12011

    shawn12011 Member+

    Jun 15, 2001
    Reisterstown, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Always. Never give in, never give up.
     
  12. John_Harkes_6

    John_Harkes_6 New Member

    Mar 29, 2000
    Baltimore, MD.
    Things that have to happen for DC to get in:

    - DC must win remaining two games
    - Chi must lost both games to Columbus

    and

    - NY must loss next two games

    or

    - NE gains less than three point in final two games

    I am pretty sure that is how it goes
     
  13. slacker

    slacker Member

    Nov 20, 2001
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    playoff scenarios!

    There's an article on DCUnited.com that goes into dizzying detail about this:

    www.dcunited.com/index.cfm?section=main&cont_id=127557


    I think its highly unlikely that Chicago loses the last two to C-bus - that team may not be playing all that well, but they still have pride and determination (and hacking). So I am not going to count on getting in at the Fire's expense.

    Unfortunately the scenarios dwindle considerably if the Fire secures a spot.
     
  14. shawn12011

    shawn12011 Member+

    Jun 15, 2001
    Reisterstown, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here is the break down:


    Scenario A- United and MetroStars get in:
    In this scenario the important team is, of course, New England? The Revs would have to lose or draw with Dallas this Saturday and Columbus must sweep Chicago for this possibility to happen. If the Metros then win or tie against New England in their season finale, that leaves the Revs somewhere between 32-34 points and Chicago stuck at 34 with United sneaking into the eighth position with 35.

    Scenario B- United and New England get in:
    Who would have thought about this one three weeks ago? In order for this to happen, the Crew must once again sweep Chicago, United must win out and New England would have to either tie or defeat Dallas and then beat the Metros.

    Scenario C- DC/MET/NE Tiebreaker- Top two "Goal Differential" gets in:
    Here's where it starts getting ridiculous. Say United wins out, New England losses to Dallas but beats the MetroStars. Then there are three teams with 35 points fighting for two spots, assuming Chicago cannot earn a point from Columbus and the Wizards snag a point from their pair of remaining games against Colorado. One tiebreaker just wouldn't do, as all three teams would end up with a 4-4-0 record against each other. The second tiebreaker would be goal differential, which means United would have to put up some series offense in the last three matches, probably having to beat the MetroStars by at least two goals in both of their contests while hoping for a Dallas bombardment of New England. Then the Revs would have to turnaround and beat the Metros by one goal while United puts up a comfortable win over Dallas. Hey, you never know, right?

    Scenario D- DC/CHI/MET/NE Tiebreaker- Chicago, United gets in:
    Okay, say Kansas City gets a point and clinches the sixth spot, but Chicago manages to get a point against Columbus and join United, the MetroStars and the Revs at 35 points… even better. Thanks to the four-way head-to-head tiebreaker, Chicago would take the seventh spot while United (5-5-2, .500) would eek out New England (5-6-1, .458) for the eighth and final spot.

    Scenario E- DC/KC/MET/NE Tiebreaker- KC, MET, United gets in:
    All right, but what if Kansas City and Chicago go pointless from here on out? No problemo because once again the four-way tiebreaker works in United's favor. With Chicago being out of the picture with 34 points, three of the tied teams would make it in, and once again it would be United getting the last spot from New England.

    Scenario F- The dreaded "Five-Way Breaker"- CHI, KC, United gets in:
    Shoot me for figuring this one out, but it's possible. Let's say that Chicago get one point from Columbus, Kansas City loses their last two, and United and the Revs win out, meaning that the MetroStars, in turn, lose out. That leaves five teams all tied with 35 points, with three of them getting into the playoffs, with the third spot going to United! That's right, United would emerge as the 8th playoff seed thanks to their mark in the "head-to-head-to-head-to-head-to-head" match-up, with their potential 6-7-3 (.469) record narrowly edging out the MetroStars 6-7-1 mark (.464).
     
  15. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    See now thats just fvcked up. Cause our squad has gotta depend on you guys too and our interests are never supposed to be linked, or something like that.
     
  16. CHICO13

    CHICO13 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 4, 2001
    SECTION 135
    Club:
    The Strongest La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Re: playoff scenarios!

    I read that and then read it again, Sheeesh, I'm more confused now than when I started. Bottom line is we'll know more after this Saturday. A lot of those scenerios will have played out. I could see us and the Revs getting in though.
     
  17. Jose L. Couso

    Jose L. Couso New Member

    Jul 31, 2000
    Arlington, VA
    That is correct.

    Results of all games with our divisional teams:

    NY/NJ-4-2, 0-1, 1-0; W:2-L:1; GF:5-GA:3
    COLB-0-1, 1-1, 1-3, 0-1; W:0-L:3-T:1; GF:2-GA:6
    CHIG-2-0, 0-2, 0-0, 0-0; W:1-L:1-T:2; GF:2-GA:2
    NEWE-3-2, 0-2, 0-1, 0-3; W:1-L:2; GF:3-GA:8

    ps-DC United has lost the tiebreaker with Kansas City.
     
  18. eldiablito

    eldiablito New Member

    Jun 8, 2000
    in Sagy's shadow
    Which makes that controversial disallowed Marco PK by that banished ref all the more painful.
     
  19. John_Harkes_6

    John_Harkes_6 New Member

    Mar 29, 2000
    Baltimore, MD.
    They also lost the tiebreaker with NE - however, that is only if it is a two-way tie. Three way ties make the head spin.
     
  20. Jose L. Couso

    Jose L. Couso New Member

    Jul 31, 2000
    Arlington, VA
    I stand corrected!

    It would be sweet if DC United finished in a 5-way tie, and thus get in to the playoffs by edging the Metrostars by five thousands of a percentage point! :D

    I would like to see all the crying coming out of the Metrostars then! :D
     
  21. DigitalTron

    DigitalTron New Member

    Apr 4, 2001
    Arlington, VA
    I know, being a Fire fan as well that's quite hard to do, particularly since we need a sweep. And remember, the Crew have owned United this season as well, so we'd rather not face them in the playoffs, whereas we have done just fine against the Fire.

    Slim ... our hopes are almost non-existent.

    But I still believe ... and I'll believe next season too.

    -Tron
     

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