Team Rank Histories

Discussion in 'Women's College' started by cpthomas, Dec 7, 2024.

  1. MW Soccer

    MW Soccer New Member

    FC United
    Germany
    Nov 26, 2018
    Well still not sure what the point is over a 7 year period. The committee is only looking at current year.
     
  2. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    upload_2024-12-11_10-43-13.png

    Average Balanced RPi Rank: 111
    Average NCAA RPI Strength of Schedule Contributor Rank: 112
    NCAA RPI Strength of Schedule Contributor Rank: 108
     
  3. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The 7 year period is forward looking, giving a sense of where one might expect a team to be next year. It should work pretty well overall, but for some teams not so well, particularly teams that appear to be trending in one direction or another.

    The chart shows how teams are trending over time. It also shows true team strength (Balanced RPI and Massey) as compared to how strong the NCAA RPI says a team is (ARPI) and as compared to how strong the NCAA RPI says the team is as a strength of schedule contributor to its opponents' NCAA RPI ratings. Using your Minnesota as an example, its actual strength generally is betteer than the NCAA RPI says it is and even more better than the NCAA RPI says it is as a strength of schedule contributor to its opponents' NCAA RPI ratings.

    The numbers at the bottom give you a picture of how the numbers compare over a 7-year period, to give a sense of the scale of the differences between true team strength, what the NCAA RPI says the team strength is, and what the RPI formula says the team strength is when it computes the team's strength of schedule contributions to its opponents.

    If you're a coach doing non-conference scheduling, for example, these are things you want to know. Ordinarily, you would not want to schedule an opponent who is likely to (1) be stronger than what the NCAA RPI will tell the Committee its strength is and (2) give a contribution to the strength of schedule components of your RPI that is poorer than what even the NCAA RPI says it should be.

    So, to summarize, the information shows how your team is changing over time and also shows how it is (and its opponents are) likely to be affected by the way the NCAA RPI is constructed.
     
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  4. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    upload_2024-12-11_11-36-47.png

    Average Balanced RPI Rank: 116
    Average NCAA RPI Rank: 120
    NCAA RPI Strength of Schedule Contributor Rank: 169
     
  5. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    upload_2024-12-11_12-16-7.png

    Average Balanced RPI Rank: 11
    Average NCAA RPI Rank: 13
    NCAA RPI Strength of Schedule Contributor Rank: 39
     
  6. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    upload_2024-12-11_15-33-25.png

    Average Balanced RPI Rank: 109
    Average NCAA RPI Rank: 114
    NCAA RPI Strength of Schedule Contributor Rank: 139
     
  7. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #32 cpthomas, Dec 11, 2024
    Last edited: Dec 11, 2024
    A good team to have had on your schedule in 2024: Balanced RPI Rank 81, Massey Rank 85, NCAA RPI Rank 36, NCAA RPI Strength of Schedule Contributor Rank 4.

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    Average Balanced RPI Rank: 189
    Average NCAA RPI Rank: 146
    NCAA RPI Strength of Schedule Contribution Rank: 103
     
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  8. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    upload_2024-12-11_19-10-4.png
    Average Balanced RPI Rank: 252
    Average NCAA RPI Rank: 255
    NCAA RPI Strength of Schedule Contributor Rank: 273
     
  9. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    upload_2024-12-11_19-33-59.png

    Average Balanced RPI Rank: 5
    Average NCAA RPI Rank: 4
    NCAA RPI Strength of Schedule Contribution Rank: 9
     
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  10. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    upload_2024-12-11_19-41-47.png

    Average Balanced RPI Rank: 75
    Average NCAA RPI Rank: 88
    NCAA RPI Strength of Schedule Contributor Rank: 168
     
  11. Sophos

    Sophos Member

    Feb 20, 2020
    CP. Do you have these for all of the teams or are you making them as you go? There are several " lower league" teams I'd be interested in that you probably won't list. Too many for me to request them. If you have these on your blog or something though I would spend a good chunk of time looking at them. I find the work you do interesting. I think for AD's need to be thinking the way your mind works when evaluating the success of hires etc. Thanks for the work you do.
     
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  12. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have them for all of the teams. I'm updating them as I go through the alphabet, with some "upgrades" to the program I use. The process is pretty time-consuming -- about 5 minutes per team -- as I have three different charts per team. I have the one I am posting, then one for the average ranks of teams' non-conference opponents (Balanced RPI rank, NCAA RPI rank, NCAA RPI rank as strength of schedule contributors), then one that shows the relationship between teams' NCAA RPI ranks and their ranks as strength of schedule contributors set in a way that allows the prediction of what a team's SoS contributor rank will be for any particular RPI rank. When I have gotten through all the teams, later this month, I will make the Excel workbook I use available on line for anyone who wants to download it. As you may imagine, it is a pretty large workbook.

    Among other things, the workbook is a resource for coaches to use when doing their non-conference scheduling.
     
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  13. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    upload_2024-12-12_11-38-41.png

    Average Balanced RPI Rank: 22
    Average NCAA RPI Rank: 17
    NCAA RPI Strength of Schedule Contributor Rank: 19
     
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  14. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    upload_2024-12-12_12-6-23.png

    Average Balanced RPI Rank: 56
    Average NCAA RPI Rank: 63
    NCAA RPI Strength of Schedule Contributor Rank: 122
     
  15. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    upload_2024-12-12_12-15-9.png

    Average Balanced RPI Rank: 55
    Average NCAA RPI Rank: 82
    NCAA RPI Strength of Schedule Contributor Rank: 77
     
  16. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    upload_2024-12-12_12-32-21.png

    Average Balanced RPI Rank: 151
    Average NCAA RPI Rank: 154
    NCAA RPI Strength of Schedule Contributor Rank: 133
     
  17. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    upload_2024-12-12_14-29-40.png

    Average Balanced RPI Rank: 70
    Average NCAA RPI Rank: 65
    NCAA RPI Strength of Schedule Contributor Rank: 69
     
  18. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    upload_2024-12-12_14-58-31.png

    Average Balanced RPI Rank: 80
    Average NCAA RPI Rank: 59
    NCAA RPI Strength of Schedule Contributor Rank: 56
     
  19. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    upload_2024-12-12_15-12-17.png

    Average Balanced RPI Rank: 142
    Average NCAA RPI Rank: 155
    NCAA RPI Strength of Schedule Contributor Rank: 187
     
  20. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    upload_2024-12-12_16-20-16.png

    Average Balanced RPI Rank: 72
    Average NCAA RPI Rank: 107
    NCAA RPI Strength of Schedule Contributor Rank: 180
     
  21. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    upload_2024-12-12_18-31-44.png

    Average Balanced RPI Rank: 63
    Average NCAA RPI Rank: 95
    NCAA RPI Strength of Schedule Contributor Rank: 152
     
  22. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    upload_2024-12-12_18-55-49.png

    Average Balanced RPI Rank: 134
    Average NCAA RPI Rank: 172
    NCAA RPI Strength of Schedule Contributor Rank: 235
     
  23. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    upload_2024-12-12_19-5-36.png

    Average Balanced RPI Rank: 41
    Average NCAA RPI Rank: 66
    NCAA RPI Strength of Schedule Contributor Rank: 78
     
  24. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    upload_2024-12-13_10-53-7.png

    Average Balanced RPI Rank: 100
    Average NCAA RPI Rank: 101
    NCAA RPI Strength of Schedule Contributor Rank: 116
     
  25. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    upload_2024-12-13_11-1-44.png

    Average Balanced RPI Rank: 161
    Average NCAA RPI Rank: 204
    NCAA RPI Strength of Schedule Contributor Rank: 269
     

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