Team by Team Salary Cap Breakdown For starters, I'm assuming that bonuses count towards the cap (up to $280,000 per player). I've taken P-40 and developmental players correctly out of the equation. I'm just using the guaranteed bonuses and don't have all the detailed player peformance bonuses (obviously). But this should give a fairly reasonable look at what kind of room teams do have. Chicago Fire Team Cap:$1,268,630 Notes: Unaware if Damani becomes an SI 4 roster slots and 1-2 SI slots Colorado Rapids Team Cap: $1,604,556 Notes: 2 roster slots available, no SI slots Columbus Crew Team Cap: $1,308,544 Notes: Unaware if Cunningham's new deal reworked his current salary Unaware if Walsh moves up to SI next year McBride transfer rumor from joeyinfo 1-2 SI slots available and 5 roster slots Dallas Burn Team Cap: $551,205 Notes: Unaware if O'Brien becomes an SI 2-3 SI slots and 8 roster slots available Lowest team cap of any MLS team D.C. United Team Cap: $1,707,517 Notes: 2 SI slots and 2 roster slots available no cap room left K.C. Wizards Team Cap: $1,413,062 Notes: Unaware if Zotinca counts towards the cap or not (DISC) 2 SI's and 5 roster slots available L.A. Galaxy Team Cap: $1,040,241 Notes: 1 SI and 6 roster slots available Unaware if Popik counts towards the cap or not (DISC) Metros Team Cap: $977,160 Notes: 1 SI slot available, 5 roster slots NE Revolution Team Cap: $1,323,137 Notes: 1 SI slot and 5 roster slots available San Jose Earthquakes Team Cap: $1,152,715 Notes: 1 SI slot and 3 roster slots available
Re: Team by Team Salary Cap Breakdown Fish and Simon (both SIs) are still under contract. Also, Moreno may take up an SI slot. Not sure on him.
Re: Re: Team by Team Salary Cap Breakdown no offense, but the and is there to say that you have 1 si slot available and 6 roster slots i have moreno down as a TI... i didn't note his age though... and check that... simon has just been traded to the crew... i'll post a revised list in a second
Re: Re: Re: Team by Team Salary Cap Breakdown Read your first post wrong...never mind. There are 2 SI slots open now but Moreno was more 7-8-79. Is he still a TI?
Revised for Simon Elliot Trade Chicago Fire Team Cap:$1,268,630 Notes: Unaware if Damani becomes an SI 4 roster slots and 1-2 SI slots Colorado Rapids Team Cap: $1,604,556 Notes: No confirmation on Schmidt retirement 2-3 roster slots available, no SI slots Columbus Crew Team Cap: $1,473,495 Notes: Unaware if Cunningham's new deal reworked his current salary Unaware if Walsh moves up to SI next year McBride transfer rumor from joeyinfo Maybe 1 SI slot available and 4 roster slots Dallas Burn Team Cap: $551,205 Notes: Unaware if O'Brien becomes an SI 2-3 SI slots and 8 roster slots available Lowest team cap of any MLS team D.C. United Team Cap: $1,707,517 Notes: 2 SI slots and 2 roster slots available no cap room left K.C. Wizards Team Cap: $1,413,062 Notes: Unaware if Zotinca counts towards the cap or not (DISC) 2 SI's, 5 roster slots available L.A. Galaxy Team Cap: $919,491 Notes: Unaware if Moreno becomes an SI 1-2 SI's and 7 roster slots available Unaware if Popik counts towards the cap or not (DISC) Metros Team Cap: $977,160 Notes: 1 SI slot available, 5 roster slots NE Revolution Team Cap: $1,323,137 Notes: 1 SI slot, 5 roster slots available San Jose Earthquakes Team Cap: $1,152,715 Notes: 1 SI slot, 3 roster slots available
Re: Re: Re: Re: Team by Team Salary Cap Breakdown tis ok... i edited it to make it less confusing i think moreno moves to an SI with the other question marks, but i'm not sure
i think i need to add the note that kamler has re-signed and that we don't have his salary at this point in time (he did re-sign... right?)... i hope something comes up on the players' union site that will be updated (i don't even know if they have a site for that matter) thanks beau
There are also a few people not on SA's list that are in various forms of limbo -- Kreis, Fraser, Quill, Cobi Jones, Agoos, Chris Brown. Could complicate things.
Burn stuff.... SI's are really taken. 1. O'Brien 2. Nhleko 3. Allcoation 1 and they still have allocaiton 2 from Adu screwing... er trade. Also Jolley was left off the Soccer American salary list. I think he is $130,000. Kreis is being offered between $100 and $150 depending on who you ask.
Re: Re: Team by Team Salary Cap Breakdown well that was a nasty response. Do you put lemon juice on your corn flakes?
I understand that the salaries of MLS players have recently been published, but haven't studied them in any great degree. But can somebody explain why there is such a huge difference between teams with respect to the salary cap? Dallas has a less than $600,000 cap? What gives?
kreis and others are out of contract... kreis would have been at max... he would have been their big salary this past year... i believe they also have the lowest number of signed players at the moment... most teams had 13-15 players signed with 2 guys near the max... while dallas' top salary is garlick (mid-low 100k range) notice also that they might have all 3 SI slots available... that often eats a decent chunk of change
Also note that of the teams listed, only DC has a full roster. It's hard to judge other teams because they have players out of contract or are in the midst of acquiring players. Those additional players make a huge difference in what cap space teams have to work with. I'm interested in what Columbus' cap is like now that they acquired Lagos and Fraser. Care to update?
First, you see these wise gaps b/c we're comparing apples and oranges to some extent. Some teams (like DCU) only had 1 or 2 players who's contract was "up" for 2004. Thus, all the players count on the cap (even though some will certainly not return). But others teams have as many as 5-6 players who are out of contract and thus don't officially count on the cap. For instance, at about this time last year, Colorado had about 7 players on their roster and Metro had a similar number I think. Both teams had cut a bunch of players, other players (such as Andy Williams) were out of contract, they sold others (Diallo) or saw them leave (Valderamma). Second, some teams (and Dallas is a good example) either don't have their most expensive players under contract (Kreis) or have seen them retire (Morrow). Dallas is also helped by the fact that their most "expensive" player at present on the roster--DJ Countess--actually is off the cap b/c he's P-40 (a remarkable fact but a good deal for Dallas). Third, DCU is actually about $200K under the cap at present. If you add up the numbers on the SA list, it doesn't note that Eskandarian, Barclay, Carroll and Stokes are all P-40 for 2003 and 2004 (given the recent MLS accouncements of who graduated from P-40). And of course, good job jmeissen0--glad someone took the time and effort to do this.
this is incorrect... i did an excel sheet for this whole thing and i had those 4 players listed as p-40's and not as players who counted against the cap... you guys currently have no room salary cap wise look at the numbers again... your mistake is most likely not including the bonuses... which from everything i understand, count against the cap i can't update it... the salaries of those two players are not known... they were out of contract at the time the salaries were leaked
I thought the Washington Post (before the SA list came out) noted that DCU was about $200K under the cap. And to be honest, I have no idea what the bonus situation is and how that counts against the cap b/c it includes "achieveable bonuses" and I don't have a clue as to how much of that bonus money would count.
i'm pretty sure they count, because i believe bonuses were part of the problem for the fire's cap problems last year (not the biggest, but part)
Salary Cap Info?? jmeissenO -- you seem to have a pretty good handle on these numbers, and I'm coming to this thread late, but I'd like to catch up a little and educate myself on this topic -- where are you guys sourcing this salary info, and where can I learn some of the conditions you requently reference that govern classifications for players and their weight against the cap rules? Any leads would be greatly appreciated . . . Thanks.
Re: Salary Cap Info?? soccer america released the salary info for every team... there were quite a few players out of contract and not on the list, but everyone currently with a contract was included as for the conditions... it's widely believed that $280k is the max salary accountable towards the cap (although players do have larger contracts)... p-40's and developmental players do not effect the cap... in addition, it is my belief that bonuses effect the cap as i believe that was part of chicago's problem last year
i just found some clarification on the senior and transitional international bridge you become an SI at the age of 25 http://www.chicago-fire.com/pressbox/pressrelease/releasetext.asp?prID=1388
For one thing... Every MLS team is under the same salary cap... Now there are certain bonuses and SI players and such that do not count towards this cap but they all play by the same rules. A better and much less confusing way to show this would be to take the salary cap and subtract the dollars that each team has allocated against that cap. So instead of reporting that Adu makes $500,000 a year subtract $275,000 from DC's salary cap and on and on until you get a final number which will be the amount of money each team has to spend. Does anyone have the figures to calculate this???