Teaching U9s to Understand the Game

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  1. Slide Tackle

    Slide Tackle Member

    Sep 29, 2008
    Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So, the spring soccer season is approaching, and I'm excited but also well... worried :(. I've been coaching U-littles for about 4 years. This season my older team, the one I'm most concerned about, will be 2nd and 3rd graders in a rec league at the Y. My teams have had variable results from one team that lost every match to several teams that have had only a single loss on the season, but I've noticed a pattern that has me worried.

    In training I emphasize individual ball skills, and my kids do reasonably well with this. After ball control, my secondary objective is to teach basic principles of play (width, depth, support, getting numbers up situations, awareness, and communication). Despite this, they often look clueless.

    A few players get this stuff occasionally, but some kids including some who I've had over multiple seasons just don't seem to get it, to understand what's going on. My teams always improve over the course of the season, and they tend to play better when they play stronger teams, but they never really gel into a consistent, confident side, and it's my fault (at least partially).

    For practice, we warmup, introduce a new skill or concept, play a few small sided games focusing on what we learned, and then scrimmage. The scrimmage always feels too chaotic to me, and I frequently stop it to point out things and reinforce the new skill or concept we learned. Should I just let the scrimmage be more free flowing? Early in the season I tend to keep the scrimmages short (10 minutes to start), should I let them scrimmage longer? I feel that I'm letting my players down by not teaching them better.

    Slide Tackle
     
  2. rca2

    rca2 Member+

    Nov 25, 2005
    At that age you are developing players, not a team, so you should grade yourself on how the players are developing and whatever other goals you set for the season (I hope having fun is one of them!).

    As for your question about how long to scrimmage--If by scrimmage you mean divide up the players into two sides and play soccer devoting a lot of training time to that has some downsides. There is no answer in terms of a set number of minutes. If you went extreme and devoted all your time to it, you will be minimizing touches on the ball (1 ball in play for the whole team) instead of maximizing touches on the ball during the training session. On the other hand kids really love to scrimmage so there is good reason to scrimmage in some fashion. I used to devote between 1/4 to 1/3 of my training time to a scrimmage for u10s through u12's. (I never coached kids younger than 8 in a formal setting.) In that age group I have read about well-qualified coaches having great success using only 3v3 during the entire practice even though the kids were playing larger sides in matches (6v6 for instance). They used the rest periods for demonstrations. I can imagine well-qualified coaches being able to control all the varibles and make the appropriate teaching points that way but I think it would be a challenge for less experienced coaches and especially if working alone with a dozen or more kids.
     
  3. ROSSIGA

    ROSSIGA Member

    Jul 1, 2008
    Indiana
    I'm in the same boat. My rec U-10's pick up the individual skills (some quicker than others) but they really struggle with "seeing" the game. They don't recognize where they are in relation to their opponents or teammates or how to gain an advantage by just moving to a better place. I think part of it is that they just haven't played the game much. Our adult/parent indoor team has the same problem so I don't feel too bad about the kids not getting it yet.

    Some of the teams the boys play have figured out the basic concepts of passing and we've struggled in those games. I tried encouraging passing at our last indoor game for a few of the boys who are excelling at dribbling just to see how they would respond. During a rest break, I asked our best ball handler why he wasn't looking to pass. His response: "If I pass it, I'll never get it back." I didn't expect that response but he was probably right. Most of his teammates just don't have the skills or awareness to return the pass. It's probably past time for him and one or two others to move to a select team where their development is on par with their teammates.
     
  4. Twenty26Six

    Twenty26Six Feeling Sheepish...

    Jan 2, 2004
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think that game awareness is built from two things.

    One - Building technical skills to control the ball under pressure.
    Two - Being a calm coach that allows his players to control the ball and make their own decisions.

    Plus, at U9, we should just be telling them to dribble. They should only pass if they are trapped by defenders, IMO.
     
  5. equus

    equus Member

    Jan 6, 2007
    Maybe not. Remember that they're 7-8 year old kids. They're going to be inconsistent by nature. In my teams I've seen definite individual improvement from the start of the season to the end, but consistent play from game to game is a crapshoot sometimes. They'll play great one game and then in another game the following day they act like they've never set foot on a soccer field.

    It could be the team they're playing, what they ate before the game, the weather conditions, did they get enough sleep, etc.
     
  6. galaxynut

    galaxynut Member

    Feb 1, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is an intriguing thread. What I've concluded from my U-9 clinic is to work on footwork over strategy. It's like this, all that's going through their mind at this age when they have the ball is, "oh crap, oh crap, oh crap". The best we can do is try to calm that mind by teaching them ways to control that ball without too much thought.

    So, when the defender is flying at them, screaming like a Neanderthal, the player must trust their instincts to avoid having the ball stolen. Because in all honesty, that's what they're thinking about, how can I avoid having this ball kicked or stolen from under me? We all know what's on the defenders mind as he's flying like a banshee at the attacker, "how can smash into her and kick the ball off the pitch and into the street as quickly as possible"?

    I'm not minimizing strategy or the passing game, it's absolutely vital to include it in your practices/clinics but it's secondary to good footwork and controlling the ball, at this age. If you instill strategy in small doses it will eventually unfold on the pitch, just give it time and be patient. The game will come, but for now, let them have fun and help them learn how to work that ball in game situations. It's all a big game of "keep away" at this age, why not nurture that and teach them how while moving the ball down the field? Another reason why small sided matches are important at this age, plenty of touches for everyone.
     
  7. Twenty26Six

    Twenty26Six Feeling Sheepish...

    Jan 2, 2004
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's funny. These two paragraphs really sum up the mindset of any U-little.

    And, I think, when we "waste" our valuable time with these kids on strategy and tactics, they still have this mindset at 14, 15, 16. Then, it just becomes sad.
     
  8. galaxynut

    galaxynut Member

    Feb 1, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, I've watched coaches teach strategy at this age and it's like deer in headlights, all of which goes right out the window when they hit the pitch. This feeds the coaches ego but is wasted on the kids, imho :)

    However, skills like "give and go" are preliminary strategy tools that are excellent for this age. My kids use this one all the time now to fool the defender. It also slows down that charging defender when he realizes his maniacal charging doesn't always work.
     
  9. Blitzz

    Blitzz New Member

    Feb 20, 2009
    Club:
    Reading FC
    I run a lot of youth coaching clinics with my club and within the state, and one of the biggest problems that I tackle in these courses are coaches who are more worried about the winning and tactical side of soccer than the technique side.

    Remember, the kids you are coaching are 8 years old. Winning should not even fathom in your mind for practices or come game days. Your primary focus at these ages are to put these players into a situation where they have the technical abilities necessary to be able to play and compete on any team they play on later in life. A typical player, from U6 through U19, will play on 7 or 8 different teams during this time, so what's the point of forming a team identity this young?

    The best you can do for these kids is teach them how to understand all surfaces of their feet. Introduce how to dribble for possession, dribble to beat an opponent, basic short passing (focused on accuracy and speed of pass) and enjoyment in the game. Players are still in a bee-hive phase of soccer at this age, and it is completely natural. Kids are egocentric at this age, so teaching them to move away from the ball goes against their basic fabric. Don't worry, they will understand it at the right time during their development. Until then, just give them the tools necessary to build off of.

    Like I always tell my coaches: We need to teach our players how to play their instrument before they can play in the orchestra.

    Good luck.
     
  10. chopper8

    chopper8 New Member

    Feb 22, 2009
    Club:
    --other--
    We spend a great deal of time developing foot skills and ball handling during the bulk of the early part of every practice - then we move into typical situations that those skills will be used - then a short scrimmage. Surprising how U9-U10's can take what you teach and apply it directly on the field in a short frame of time.
     
  11. Slide Tackle

    Slide Tackle Member

    Sep 29, 2008
    Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    First off thanks for all the replies. One thing that came up frequently is "don't worry about winning/strategy at this age". I want to say that winning is not much of a concern to me, and I emphasis to my players that playing well and having fun are our goals. And "playing well" is not just a euphemism for winning. It means doing our best and trying to improve.

    Twenty26six and Galaxynut talked about technical skills allowing the player to be more relaxed in the bustle of the game. That is an important point, and was definitely the problem with a few of my players, but that's not what I was trying to get at in the original post. Maybe an example would help.

    One boy, let's call him Sam, is a decent athlete, has good (i.e., better than average) ball skill, and great hustle. Despite this he really struggled to be effective in the attack. He had major problems beating a defender, and for the longest time I couldn't figure out what was wrong.

    So one practice when we were doing a 1v1 take on the defender game, I played defender against him. He repeatedly smashed the ball into me even if I just stood in place and even after I pointed out that he wasn't going to beat me by sending the ball through me and to go around me instead. However, if I put up cones and ask him to dribble around them, he does fine. In fact he was one of the better dribblers on the team.

    At the end of the season this kid was still trying to beat defenders by sending the ball through them. :confused: So what was the problem here? Why could he dribble around cones fine but not around a defender (even a stationary one)? He had the technical skills to do it. I feel like I failed this kid, because this was really his one big weakness, and I couldn't help him at all.
     
  12. Slide Tackle

    Slide Tackle Member

    Sep 29, 2008
    Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Another example. Sam was the fastest kid on my U10 team. Actually he was probably the fastest kid on any team that we faced. He has decent ball control and a really sweet shot when he connects well with the ball. Sam's problem was that he had two speeds - off and full blast. :eek:

    I could never get across to him that sometimes he needs to slow down at least a little. He missed several sitters because even though he had dusted all the defenders, he was still going full speed as he approached the keeper and just couldn't quite get a good shot going so fast.

    Not surprisingly, he also tires out quickly since he's ripping around the pitch at 90 mph. The fact the he's also all over the pitch when he plays contributes to this, but I don't really expect 8 years to hold positions much.

    Any advice on getting a kid to realize that he doesn't always have to run all out?
     
  13. Twenty26Six

    Twenty26Six Feeling Sheepish...

    Jan 2, 2004
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He needs to be playing 1v1 vs. LIVE opposition in training A LOT more. No more cones, because cones don't defend. Make the space small and have him play 1v1 against your best defenders.

     
  14. Twenty26Six

    Twenty26Six Feeling Sheepish...

    Jan 2, 2004
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is a product of age and immaturity, IMO. He'll just keep doing it until he gets old enough to manage his energy.
     
  15. cyphilbrick

    cyphilbrick New Member

    Feb 11, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I really like this quote Blitz: "We need to teach our players how to play their instrument before they can play in the orchestra."

    Footwork drills are definitely the crucial area for this age group. Besides using small-sided games, I also recommend small skills exercises that teach players basic concepts like taking advantage of 2 vs. 1 situations, so they can practice fakes and give and goes.

    This one, we call "Bermuda Triangle," is great:

    Players work in pairs as teams (2 vs. 2). Three big cones in a triangle 10 yards apart act as goals. Players score a point by hitting any of the three cones with the ball. Ball switches possession after a goal. Play continues non-stop for two minutes then players switch triangles. No out of bounds.

    Progression:
    • Play 3 vs. 3 with four cones.

    www.coach-smart.com has a bunch of great games for U10 teams..
     
  16. Slide Tackle

    Slide Tackle Member

    Sep 29, 2008
    Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, I think you're right. We only used cones for dribbling against a couple of times all season (the last time was specifically to see how he did compared to when facing a defender). However we also only did 1v1 'Take on a Defender' games a couple of times as well. Looking back, one mistake I repeatedly made is that I assume the kids really, really get something if they do well with a concept in one practice, and then I want to move on to the next thing. Later when the kids struggle, I'm like "Oh, that can't be the problem we already covered that. So what's the problem?" :eek:

    That's what I was afraid the reply would be on this. So, now I just have to wait. Patience is a virtue, they say. ;)

    One thing I've noticed is that I do better coaching kids that aren't especially athletic. They seem more interested in learning to control the ball and to use their heads in the game. The really athletic kids can do well at this age group just because of their physical abilities and seem less interested in "wasting their time" on this other stuff. Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that with their players as well?
     
  17. rca2

    rca2 Member+

    Nov 25, 2005
    You don't want to overcontrol the practices. They should be spending the majority of time in small sided games or scrimages: 1v1, 3v3, 5v2, whatever. While you might have taught dribling last week and trapping this week, they will get a chance to use all the ball skills plus tackling in the small sided games. That is what they mean by letting the game teach them. You demonstrate, make coaching points, but let them play as much as possible. Skill development takes repetition. Kids might understand the proper technique the first time, but they need repetition under gradually increasing pressure (until you get to game-like conditions) to improve their skill level. For instance collecting a pass on the ground with the inside of the foot is relatively simple to execute while standing still with the ball coming to your feet. But what about while moving away from the ball, running, a pass off the ground, or under defensive presure. Or all of the above at the same time. It takes a lot more skill to control the ball under those conditions even if you understand the technique.
     
  18. ranova

    ranova Member

    Aug 30, 2006
    "...but they need repetition under gradually increasing pressure (until you get to game-like conditions) to improve their skill level."

    Here is a link to a general discussion of how to vary drills (including small-sided games) to increase the level of difficulty. http://www.nscaa.com/subpages/20060331172815126.php
     
  19. Falc

    Falc Member+

    Jul 29, 2006
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Play variations of handball. It makes them focus on seeing the field instead of individual skills. It also breaks the monotony. You can let them run with the ball in their hands or only allow movement of the ball by throwing it or dribbling with their feet. If I had them playing at a goal, my rule was that the ball had to go back on the ground in the penalty area and shots not allowed with a throw. It is a technique used in Europe all of the time.
     
  20. chelsea33

    chelsea33 New Member

    Mar 10, 2009
    Oregon
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I struggled with this topic with both my son and daughter in terms of coaching. We dedicated about 1/2 the practice to individual skills and the basics, trying to build a foundation that we could always go back to during the year. We also spent about a 1/4 of the time on team tactics and set plays. It is very tough at this age to get a team concept going, but I do think it is important to discuss and spend time on it. I found the following to be extremely helpful in teaching position and spacing at this age. Combine this with practice games we saw results of the kids starting to recognize spacing and the importance of playing a position; however, be patient because these moments were brief but resulted in a great feeling as a coach as well as for the players. I hope this drill helps, but please let me know if not or if there are suggestions for making it better.

    Again, we found this to work but we struggled and had the same feeling in all he above replies, but I think that is what makes coaching so fun and rewarding.
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    As we all know spacing is so very important in soccer but one of the most difficult aspects of the game to teach to youth players. I personally feel it is never to early to at least start discussing the topic. For example, when I watch matches on TV with my kids we discuss spacing at every given chance. However, discussing and coaching are entirely different. We need to be realistic in that there is no way you will get 5 and 6 year old players to spread out consistently. I personally think a good age to start practicing spacing is at U8/U9, depending on the level of the players, but again it should be discussed at all ages to gain an understanding.

    I have always discussed spacing in two aspects. An offensive player wants spacing and needs spacing to operate on the field. It is their job to create their space by moving away from opposing players when they do not have the ball, as well as move away from players on your team when they have the ball. Offensive moves practiced and used in games are done so to create additional space, where they can either shoot, pass or advance the ball.

    Defensive players do not want to a large amount of space between them and the offensive players, so they are continuously trying to take away space from opposing players. In many cases they are even layering and backing each other up in the event an offensive player creates space on their own, they can then close that space to limit the damage.

    This discussion combined with watching professional soccer matches will at least give a base concept to begin teaching space. I have always started teaching it on the practice field by putting players on a full field in their respective positions. Field only one team facing the other half of the field, which is empty of players (this works for all sizes fields and ages). I then take a ball and kick it to the other side of the field and ask the players to sprint to where they feel they should be on the field with respect to where the ball is being played. This also will help teach your philosophy on positioning. By doing the "shadow" drill over the entire field, back and forth, while correcting and explaining why the positioning and spacing is important; it will tie your above discussion together with the physical part of the game. I like to try to implement a triangle on the field, so midfielders should be backing up offensive players for drop passes. By using this shadow technique the players will begin to understand the importance of spacing. You can do the same to discuss weak side spacing on crosses so a player does not get sucked into the middle, or how mid fielders can advance to a scoring position. Again, incorporate you philosophy and positioning.

    Once you feel they have a base understanding it is time to scrimmage and apply spacing in a game situation. You should play with them, showing them how to move with and without the ball. I also recommended yelling out "Freeze" so the players stop and you can reinforce position and spacing. Always explain why it is important.

    A couple of tips I have also used along the way to help teach players to not crowd their own team-mates when they have the ball is to explain to them that is good to be aggressive, but when your team has the ball you should really be running away from them to open up a passing lane and create space for him and yourself. The player with the ball should then start to look for the pass when his space closes on him. Defensive players should be shown how to close the space without diving in, as well marking players in space.
     
  21. KevTheGooner

    KevTheGooner Help that poor man!

    Dec 10, 1999
    THOF
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Andorra
    I like this approach.

    I also think that U9 players are still psychologically unable to truly grasp many team tactics aside from basic messages like "take the ball down the side and pass/cross it in front of the opponent's goal."

    But there seems to be a mental breakthrough at the U9/U10 threshold however (at least with girls). I've seen it routinely...the 8 y.o.s are literally all over the place on the field except for offense/defense while the 9/10 y.o.s are making runs off the ball, switching on defense etc. It's wierd, really.
     
  22. Twenty26Six

    Twenty26Six Feeling Sheepish...

    Jan 2, 2004
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    [rant]

    Sorry, but, I have to disagree that an attacker needs/wants MORE SPACE. Rather, an attacker needs MORE SKILL!

    Only when the field becomes congested at 11v11 with highly athletic individuals does the large amounts of space become a concern.

    At U9, the field is probably still TOO BIG for the players. If you're not forcing them to use skills to beat players at U9, they aren't going to get better. And, then, at U16, when there is no more space left to exploit, they will be overly-passive and possession-happy.

    [/rant]

    ;) :)
     
  23. chelsea33

    chelsea33 New Member

    Mar 10, 2009
    Oregon
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I agree 100%, which is why we spend 1/2 the practice on individual 1:1 skills and only 25% on this team aspect. Bunch ball at this age seems to be the norm which is why we liked to mix in some team aspects. To each their own...I'm not saying this is the way and follow, only that we saw success with it (at times) and the original post was asking for advice. Cheers!:eek:
     
  24. Twenty26Six

    Twenty26Six Feeling Sheepish...

    Jan 2, 2004
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No, I understand where you're coming from. And, it's all down to the right "mix".

    It's just lately I've got a bug about the whole thing - spreading out that is. ;)
     
  25. chelsea33

    chelsea33 New Member

    Mar 10, 2009
    Oregon
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Liverpool is looking good right now. Rec. is so hard at that age. I think the club Player Development Programs do a great job of teaching the individual skills also and try to get them in the mix when possible. The disparity in skill level from player to player can make it very difficult to coach and keep everyone involved while challenging them to learn. I have always struggled with teaching aggression to players. I'm going to search the board for help on that..any advice?
     

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