TBD - The Rúben Amorim Thread

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  1. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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    Jun 4, 2006
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  2. Father Ted

    Father Ted BigSoccer Supporter

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    Nov 2, 2001
    Connecticut
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    I have the same feelings, quietly optimistic but we've been here before. The main thing is I want to see a never-say-die attitude in the team. We had it for a while with Ole's teams but lost it in the final half-season. Never saw it with Rangnick's or ETH's teams. I know it is an individual thing with players but for feck sake, show some heart and that you care.
     
  3. Anonymous_United

    Manchester United
    Brazil
    Jul 13, 2018
    He is inheriting better squad than ETH but like everyone said we have been here before.
     
  4. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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    if anyone cares here's the staff:

    Carlos Fernandes - assistant head coach

    Amorim's assistant, 29, has worked with him at Casa Pia, Braga and Sporting.

    Jorge Vital - goalkeeper coach

    Vital was Amorim's goalkeeper at Braga and began coaching with him in 2020 at Sporting.

    Adelio Candido - first-team coach

    A fixture of Amorim's backroom staff, the 28-year-old has worked with him at Casa Pia, Braga and Sporting.

    Emanuel Ferro - first-team coach

    Ferro was a coach while Amorim played for Benfica and they combined when Amorim took charge at Sporting, where Ferro was already working.

    Paulo Barreira - physical performance coach

    Familiar with the Premier League, having previously worked at Arsenal and Liverpool.

    https://www.skysports.com/football/...-latest-on-deals-signings-loans-and-contracts

    not sure how i feel about Fletcher staying. especially with van Nistelrooy going.

    probably because i am not sure how to assess what value Fletcher adds or has added
     
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  5. Deadtigers

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    I assume a translator has been brought on staff.
     
  6. Anonymous_United

    Manchester United
    Brazil
    Jul 13, 2018
    BREAKING:

    Ruben Amorim will have to work on a more modest budget to Erik ten Hag. ❌

    “He will be tasked with maximising the untapped potential in the squad as the club aim to end the damaging and costly cycle of mass overhauls”. #MUFC

    [@TelegraphDucker]

    This is actually good news.
     
  7. Holy__Joe

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    I think the big the a manager needs to do is come in and get PART of the team performing/firing, show that you can build something and demonstrate that a position is lacking player up to it.

    With ETH it rarely felt like 'Oh our offence is firing, if only we could fix the FB issue' it was just like sticking more and more fingers in a sinking ship
     
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  8. SF19

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    Jun 8, 2013
    We must sign a LB. We can't go the whole season without. Anyone decent on loan might do given circumstances.

    Don't know what Amorim can do up front to get us scoring again. That will take a trick or two. There are deals to be had for one or two super forwards.
     
  9. Deadtigers

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    If we go to 3 at the back, let's move Antony to LWB and try and get some use out of him.
     
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  10. Chaz Striker

    Chaz Striker Member+

    Jul 26, 2005
    Denver
    That’s actually a decent idea
     
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  11. Sofabloke

    Sofabloke Member+

    Dec 24, 2003
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    Saw a few places suggest Amorim likes his wingbacks inverted which would make Antony RWB.

    For the usual reasons in attack of having wingbacks / wingers inverted. Supposedly partly also because he likes wingbacks to switch play when deep with long passes to beat the press and find free players other side as oppo overcommit to the side with the ball. Easier to do when inverted.

    Have had the same thought on Antony. His massive issue as a wide forward at this level is he has neither the pace of say Rashford or the ability of Amad / Garnacho to progress the ball himself from the wing to the penalty area.

    If he can hit a cross or crossfield ball with accuracy he may be able to play wingback at times. Better options as starters but as a sub / backup maybe.
     
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  12. Deadtigers

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    I didn't know that. He has the work rate and commitment. Maybe Ruben can sell him on the move. Cause Anthony may not be up for it mentally.
     
  13. Sofabloke

    Sofabloke Member+

    Dec 24, 2003
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    Given the limited players available to him owing to internationals, can't read a huge amount into this but according to this report his team was setup as follows in training (guessing on which sides);

    Yoro - Evans - Shaw
    Antony - Casemiro - Mainoo - Malacia
    Amad - Mount
    Rashford



    I think Rashford wrote "Top Session Today" along with a starry eyed emoji on his insta - so he seemed to like it :)
     
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  14. Anonymous_United

    Manchester United
    Brazil
    Jul 13, 2018
    Let's see how much Rashford trackbacks in the next game.
     
  15. Father Ted

    Father Ted BigSoccer Supporter

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    Mazraoui has done well at LB for the last few games. Stick with him.
     
  16. Deadtigers

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    I called the Antony to WB move. Someone owes me a beer.
     
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  17. Chaz Striker

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    Sure, send you name, address and social security number and I’ll Venmo you $10
     
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  18. Sofabloke

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  19. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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  20. SF19

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    Jun 8, 2013
    I wish him well, but he has come at a tough time with a lot of players, guys who came this summer nevermind ages ago, questioning their futures.
     
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  21. JC7rox

    JC7rox Member+

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    Jun 11, 2004
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    I think this is a great place to start. He’s got guys who have yet to find their place and guys who need guidance to grow. And on the whole, the club is down.

    Expectations should not be high since we are already middling in the table. Any positives this season will be a plus going into next year.

    But maybe I’m just wanting to be optimistic.

    It’s said he wants final say re: transfers. Does that go against the “coaching” tag?
     
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  22. Deadtigers

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    Saw it last night, not bad.
     
  23. Sofabloke

    Sofabloke Member+

    Dec 24, 2003
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    Some interesting takeaways from the various Amorim press conference and interviews;

    - will implement his system from day one

    - stats on pressing and workrate are key per player, seems he wont tolerate players who wont run (cough Rashford cough)

    - not tracking back and not keeping the ball are things he highlighted as where things currently going wrong (says losing the ball stops defence pushing up which in turn breaks the press)

    - will start with regular defensive wingbacks initially as takes more time to teach wingers to defend (but implied he wants converted winger wingbacks eventually and says selection will be oppo dependent)

    - says he will have say on players signed and profiles signed against (kept saying manager instead of head coach during this too!)

    - blames the club for allowing players too much time off this week and for not stipulating players shouldnt fly (implies that will change)

    A refreshing no bs start and doesnt seem afraid to speak out and criticise the club.

    Suggests if it goes pear shaped feel he may go down swinging with problems out in the open like Ralf rather than the Ole / Erik keep it in house approach.
     
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  24. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

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    Breath of fresh air I think. His charisma and communication abilities are leaps ahead of EtH.

    He gets the nuance of the language much better.
     
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  25. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
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    Why we need 3 new CB's.

    This will be a problem with Licha, Lindelof, Maguire.

    I believe Yoro will be fine theoretically. I know De Ligt has no problem stepping up and pressing. Problem is he is slow and could be susceptible to similar type player.

    We don't just need mobile mids. We need mobile defenders as well.

    Not counting on Shaw in any form. But he would be Ideal
     

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