Tanner Tessmann at Venezia FC

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  1. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
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    New England Revolution
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  2. golazo68

    golazo68 Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    May 21, 2004
    Brazil
    We should start a GoFundMe to raise money to buy gifts for this coach and his great treatment of Tessmann (and Busio for that matter).

    By comparison, if Tessmann was at Roma, he would have played 2 minutes (intentionally 1 more minute than Reynolds, just so Mourinho can shit on Bryan more) and at some point already Tessman would be blamed for being a bad bench presence by Mourinho, costing Roma a critical 3 points and banished him to their 6th division regional league team
     
  3. Shaster

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    Apr 13, 1999
    El Cerrito, CA, USA
    Tessmann with his heavy frame caused the bench tilting which took out all bench players with sharp splinters in the butt. That depleted the team’s depth.
     
  4. Casper

    Casper Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    New York


    Bench today.
     
  5. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Campania
    Tessmann on in 67th minute.
     
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  6. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Campania
    Tessmann receives a red card in 92nd minute.
     
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  7. BostonRed

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    Oct 9, 2011
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    The club didn't agree.

     
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  8. Scotty

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    Dec 15, 1999
    Campania
    Venezia lose 1-3.
     
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  9. ttrevett

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    Apr 2, 2002
    Atlanta, GA
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    DOGSO on a breakaway?
     
  10. Casper

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    Mar 30, 2001
    New York
    Nope, studs-up contact on the shin as he lunged forward. Very soft version of that description.
     
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  11. Excellency

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    Nov 4, 2011
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    I'd need to see a good replay but it looks like he curled his foot away from the opponents leg which I have felt should be a VAR review (because it shows he is under control).

    I'm guessing that the league has decided they just don't want that particular maneuver in the game period full stop, even if it was not dangerous in this case. The ref looked very pleased with himself.
     
  12. Excellency

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    Nov 4, 2011
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    As for Tessman's play in the 25 minutes he was on,...

    I'm really enjoying watching his play. He has very good instincts and makes good 'n' quick decisions on the ball. He plays a bit like Sands but his skills translate better in the middle third as an 8 while Sands tends to shine further back. Tessman's passing is quite accurate and constructive.
     
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  13. dark knight

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    Dec 15, 1999
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    Yeah - it kinda seemed like the ref based the card on the writhing on the ground even though contact seemed minimal and one view looked like he might have got the ball. That said, not a smart play to dive in like that.
     
  14. Casper

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    Mar 30, 2001
    New York
    He also played really good defense today, until that last play.
     
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  15. wixson7

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  16. golazo68

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    Dortmund
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    May 21, 2004
    Brazil
    #291 golazo68, Dec 23, 2021
    Last edited: Dec 23, 2021
    Tremendous improvement from early in the year. He was flailing and slow-minded with soft touch passing then. Much more confident/direct with firm passing now.

    Penalty was def soft.

    Kindof a mechanical player like Scally (German-type) which is fine, with his big challenge being when his feet and mind are a bit slow...not getting blindsided. The challenge of all young players.

    His size makes me wonder if he could wind up on the backline (central defender) at some point in career. He reminds me *some* (but not totally) of Geoff Cameron.

    I'll remind you all that Cameron didn't even become a starter for Dynamo until he turned 23- his first year with the club. He didn't go to Stoke until he was 27. So Tanner is way ahead of that timetable.

    Main thing is....he is demonstrating that he can learn & adjust....if he can keep this up, he will become very successful. I could see him in England or Germany with his physicality. Tony Pulis' Stoke would have loved him and his 6 foot 3 inch height.
     
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  17. dspence2311

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    Oct 14, 2007
    Ueah, he kind of looks like a center back, athletically.

    Scally doesn’t look “mechanical” to me, unless that means fundamentally sound.
     
  18. RossD

    RossD Member

    Aug 17, 2013
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    I don't have a problem with the card. He was lunging and could have seriously hurt the other player. Those kinds of tackles need to be done away with.
     
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  19. golazo68

    golazo68 Member+

    Dortmund
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    May 21, 2004
    Brazil
    Bradley-esque....straight-lined.

    Compare to Busio, and you'll get the essence of my point.

    Not necessarily a bad thing...Germany has won World Cups with whole teams of these types.....Guenter Netzer and Felix Magath were considered the 'odd' balls...German players that played like they were Yugoslav or (called Brazilians in Germany)
     
  20. dougtee

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    Feb 7, 2007
    i am totally missing your point especially now that busio is being introduced - care to restate it?
     
  21. Excellency

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    Nov 4, 2011
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    I wonder about how BS goes thru love affairs with different stats. Lately it has been height.

    I'm not sure Tessman is fast enough for cb. I like his size in midfield, combined with his good feet and quick mind (which is why the comparison to Cameron is not apt). Playing in a compact midfield means more spatial awareness and quick thinking/play rather than foot speed. Tessman is good at keeping the ball in front of him and dishing quickly and well (kinda what he was trying to do instinctually when he got the red card).

    I like the way they are using him and think he will develop quickly on his current trajectory/club situation.
     
  22. Excellency

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    If only all players could be as "mechanical" as Scally - whatever 'mechanical' means. 1 or 2 weeks ago Scally chased down a player from behind, ran around in front of him and took the ball off his feet while the guy was still running full speed and Scally completed his U turn on the other side and passed the ball off while the dispossessed guy just stood there with his jaw slack wondering what just happened. The rote thing to do would have been to take a card of something. Fortunately, Scally was confident in his 'mechanics' and went one better.
     
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  23. glutton4Bolts

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    Mar 18, 2019
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    I dunno.... I think 9.5 out of 10 times that is called a yellow. He didn't even really hit the player. I thought it was kind of soft... but his studs were up so you always run the risk. It is too bad because I thought he had his best appearance of the year up until that incident.
     
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  24. golazo68

    golazo68 Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    May 21, 2004
    Brazil
    Busio = opposite of Tannerman
    Busio = looks like player not from US
    Tannerman = looks like player from US
    Mechanical = orthodox

    Things have changed somewhat with global coaching, youtube tapes, etc.- but used to be the countries of the "South" were the creative, unorthodox players/teams, great 1v1 and the "North" were the orthodox, straight-line, hoof it up types, link-to-link-to-link.

    Of course, there were exceptions (Cryuff Holland)

    The best example of contrast is watching US play virtually any CONCACAF team south of our borders

    The danger of the orthodox player is missing that 1/10 opportunity to be creative and unorthodox. Also, the orthodox player can often create too big an opportunity to be 'read' by a defender too easily after doing the 'orthodox' thing time and time again.

    Like reading a baseball pitcher who can't disguise pitches.

    Tannerman has (would have) above average ball skills as a center back.....that's why I prospectively like the idea (or think it has merit). He has played some really nice long balls in these videos.

    As a midfielder, he may or may not rise to that level (above average).....I don't think he is there yet. But he is very young still.

    Cameron was really good and skillful until 31/32, and then he losing it
     
  25. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    How many different ways are there to signal to others that one is more discerning than the great unwashed masses of BS? Whenever one of these phrases is used I imagine a poster grasping a pipe with his chin in the air.
     
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