TAMPA/ST. PETE

Discussion in 'Candidate Cities' started by CaptParker, Apr 4, 2015.

  1. EPJr

    EPJr Member+

    Mar 21, 2009
    Richmond VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  2. EPJr

    EPJr Member+

    Mar 21, 2009
    Richmond VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  3. SUNDROP

    SUNDROP Member

    Mar 8, 2000
    Grand Junction,CO USA
    Happened to be in the St. Pete area last month and caught the Richmond match (and great work by 2 of my favorite former Rapids Matt Pickens and Deshorn Brown). I was very impressed by the whole operation - stadium, tailgating, merchandise, Rowdies' signs on parking garages, crowd enthusiasm, etc. What you need now is to SELL OUT EVERY MATCH! Sacramento, Cincinnati, etc. are impressing, so you need to show the league there is a great pent-up demand for a franchise. You've got the ideal stadium plan and great organization, just show them that this is a new level of public enthusiasm!
     
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  4. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Think Rowdies took a hit this week with Miami moving forward?
     
  5. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They still have hurdles besides the land.

    And if Orlando is publicly seen as a plus by Garber to our bid, isn't Miami another plus?

    Any argument against Tampa Bay applies just as much, even more, to everyone's darling Sacramento, IMO.
     
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  6. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Perhaps. But it seems with so much interest across the county, will MLS award #24 and one of the 25-28 to a Florida city?
     
  7. Lucho305

    Lucho305 Member

    Inter Miami CF, Junior de Barranquilla
    United States
    Jul 9, 2008
    Miami
    Club:
    Miami FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree, rivalries have to be territorial, not millions of miles away and call it a rivalry, via KC vs Real Salt Lake
     
  8. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    To be fair, we've played a controversial MLS Cup against each other and yellows and reds fly every time they play. It has the touches of a rivalry if not one actually (yet). Nothing manufactured about that.
     
  9. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What about #23 LAFC and a California city?

    San Diego hitting the skids maybe helps both Sacramento and Tampa Bay. There's still two spots left for whatever other regions MLS wants to hit. The Southeast is still underrepresented overall.

    True. Those are sometimes the best rivalries. Born on the pitch with silverware on the line.
     
  10. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My guess is 35 million in CA is just bigger than 20 million in FL. Besides LAFC is really just Chivas USA's (#11) spot.

    Just saying if you are on the BOG of MLS and care about national coverage, do you go for more single state coverage or do go for heavy hitters like (for example) Phoenix, Charlotte or Detroit?

    Not saying anyone is right or wrong here, just thoughts. I mainly wondered if generally Rowdie fans thought Miami getting closer to MLS was good or bad.
     
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  11. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah it's a legit debate. I would argue the NHL went for the heavy hitters in their expansion over more sure bets and quickly regretted it in some cases (Phoenix in particular right now). Tampa Bay is arguably one too though by the media market measure.

    I still feel confident. Maybe not those first two spots, but the later two. We're definitely a little more touchy about Miami moving forward (the Rowdies fans I follow on Twitter were quick to respond to the news),
     
  12. Lucho305

    Lucho305 Member

    Inter Miami CF, Junior de Barranquilla
    United States
    Jul 9, 2008
    Miami
    Club:
    Miami FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I believe it is, especially when the league pushes it as a rivalry, like a broken record.

    all i am saying Miami-Tampa-Orlando would be the new NW rivalry, each team will have the opposite team fans at the rivalry home games all the time. It would be awesome. And have a Cup for it too...
     
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  13. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I guess I won't bring up the preseason friendly where there was 3 red cards issued and police were called. Yeah completely corporate manufactured...
     
  14. Lucho305

    Lucho305 Member

    Inter Miami CF, Junior de Barranquilla
    United States
    Jul 9, 2008
    Miami
    Club:
    Miami FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Real rivalry is the one Tampa and Orlando have, they are just opposites, there was always a rivalry between the two, USF vs UCF, Disney vs Busch Gardens, the I4 rivalry? an MLS rivalry would be awesome between the two, adding Miami is icing on the cake, no one likes Miami, we always like to rival against the other big cities ala New York, LA. Im hoping there would be three Florida MLS teams in the near future....
     
  15. Lucho305

    Lucho305 Member

    Inter Miami CF, Junior de Barranquilla
    United States
    Jul 9, 2008
    Miami
    Club:
    Miami FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    1,000 miles plus, a rivalry. 15 hour drive? maybe it seems like a rivalry but really because each team gets grumpy on that 15 hour bus ride. Capture%2B_2017-06-20-02-50-46.png
     
  16. Lucho305

    Lucho305 Member

    Inter Miami CF, Junior de Barranquilla
    United States
    Jul 9, 2008
    Miami
    Club:
    Miami FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This on the other, can be a great rivalry...The Bermuda Triangle, all 3 cities within hours of each other... Capture%2B_2017-06-20-02-56-00.png
     
  17. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Real rivalry? Tampa could care less and Orlando just looking for someone to pick on.

    Unless we are talking Arena Football, there is no rivalry here.

    - SoccerPrime, resident of Orlando in until 2008.
     
  18. Lucho305

    Lucho305 Member

    Inter Miami CF, Junior de Barranquilla
    United States
    Jul 9, 2008
    Miami
    Club:
    Miami FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    your not there now though, things have changed, my brother and sister live up there
     
  19. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Ruckus have gotten themselves arrested and herded off into a temporary section of bleachers here. Kind of wish they weren't so stupid so we could enjoy the rivalry more. No need to emulate the crappy parts of supporter culture.
     
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  20. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well being arrested is a Green Street requirement for proving you have a rivalry.
     
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  21. PotomacMD89

    PotomacMD89 New Member

    Aug 10, 2012
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    I think Tampa would be a good MLS city, the Mutiny were poorly run so I don't think that should be held against them.
     
  22. EPJr

    EPJr Member+

    Mar 21, 2009
    Richmond VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    is anybody putting together a proposal?
    All I have been hearing lately is Vegas, Arizona and Indy.
     
  23. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Rowdies are owned by the Rays now so they theoretically have more money for a bid than before but it's been all quiet on that front. Considering the Rays have been focused on getting new baseball stadiums here and in Montreal I doubt MLS is on their radar any time soon.
     
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  24. PotomacMD89

    PotomacMD89 New Member

    Aug 10, 2012
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    @Burr, yeah I haven't heard anything about a bid either and because of what you said it does seem unlikely
     
  25. VBCity72

    VBCity72 Member+

    Aug 17, 2014
    Sunny San Diego
    Club:
    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not a Ray's fan but I would be upset if they left Tampa Bay.
     

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