Takuya Okada in Germany

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  1. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
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  3. Testudo

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    Jan 29, 1999
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  4. Testudo

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  5. Testudo

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  6. LongDuckDong

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    He started 23 of 26 matches this season in the u19 north first division, scoring 5 goals.

    Holstein Kiel's first team were in the Regionalliga (4th division) this year, however they're in the promotion playoffs and are a home/away fixture away from the third division.
     
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  8. The Irish Rover

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    Kiel are in the 3BL. Marc Heider is still there (contract until June 30th according to Transfermarkt.de)
     
  9. Testudo

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  10. ColeWCAR

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    Jun 6, 2013
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    What asian country is he a dual national with, other than his USA ties?
     
  11. onefineesq

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    I'll take a guess before the real answer comes in ..... Japanese.
     
  12. mike4066

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    Jun 30, 2007
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    The real answer is none as Japan doesn't recognize dual citizenship.
     
  13. ColeWCAR

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    Jun 6, 2013
    Indiana
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    Oh really? So, since he's part American they wouldn't call him into their YNT or NT team?
     
  14. Bigrose30

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    Sep 11, 2004
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    When you take on the citizenship of another country, Japan requires that you forfeit your citizenship there.
     
  15. ColeWCAR

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    Jun 6, 2013
    Indiana
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    Oh wow. I didn't know that.
     
  16. LouisZ

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    same here in America.
     
  17. ColeWCAR

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    Jun 6, 2013
    Indiana
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    That's not true. USA recognizes dual citizenship.
     
  18. LouisZ

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    Oct 14, 2010
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    When I became US citizen back in '82, it specifically said that I renounce prior citizenship. I guess there is a difference between a current country asking one to renounce prior citizenship to the natal country requiring only one citizenship. In my case my natal country doesn't mind if I'm dual.

    In Japan's case they don't and will enforce it. Maybe in the US they don't enforce it.
     
  19. mike4066

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    Jun 30, 2007
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    Yes technically it is against the law here in the US too but we don't enforce it.
     
  20. SUDano

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    Jan 18, 2003
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    We have Immigration laws we don't enforce?!
     
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  21. LouisZ

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    For the record, I only have US citizenship (passport), but sisters they all have dual citizenship :)
     
  22. ColeWCAR

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    Jun 6, 2013
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    No, I just read up-to-date laws online and it's not illegal..
     
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  23. The Irish Rover

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    IIRC the citizenship oath requires renunciation of other "allegiances" which is technically not the same as renouncing citizenship. Lawyers will make the case for the affected person. Lawyers can make a case for anybody . . and will.
     
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  24. Elninho

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    Oct 30, 2000
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    Also, the naturalization process isn't even relevant for a US citizen who acquires another citizenship or for someone who's born a dual citizen.
     
  25. naopon

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    Jan 2, 2007
    California
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    On paper, Japan strictly forbids multiple citizenship for adults and requires dual nationals to "choose" one by age 22. (Note that 20 is the cutoff age for legal adulthood in Japan) Adults who acquire another nationality on their own accord - for example, if Kosuke Kimura were to be naturalized as a US citizen - they are legally considered to have renounced their Japanese citizenship.

    In practice, YMMV in terms of enforcement. Most Japanese who acquired dual citizenship at birth (e.g. Jun Marques Davidson, Japan/US) end up keeping both passports without much hassle, though this is not really officially discussed. Everyone's case seems to be different: WC2010 Japan NT center back Tulio Tanaka still has his Brazilian passport, since there is no provision for renunciation in Brazilian citizenship law, while Vitesse/Japan NT striker Mike Havenaar (born in Japan and naturalized along with his Dutch-born parents in early childhood) is registered as a non-EU player in the Eredivisie.

    In any case, Takuya Okada can still legally be a dual national as he is still a minor in Japan.
     
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