Takefusa Tsubasa - The Official 久保 建英 Thread

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  1. Shay Z

    Shay Z Moderator
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    Jan 3, 2007
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  2. Drouchk

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    Aug 9, 2018
    I don’t trust Emery with Kubo’s development whatsoever.
     
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  3. MiamiNative0722

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    May 25, 2013
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    Safe to say Kubo won’t go the Jesé route and attempt a musical career lol
     
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  4. hector_br

    hector_br Member+

    Feb 13, 2007
    ISNT THAT RACIST

    I mean, cool that the guys are getting along and joking around. Hope he has a good year :)
     
  5. Drouchk

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    Aug 9, 2018
    Good cameo by the kid.
     
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  6. saadomar

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    Mar 21, 2013
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  7. saadomar

    saadomar Member+

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    Mar 21, 2013
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    Your hunch was spot on. He's stunting Kubo's development.
     
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  8. Drouchk

    Drouchk Member+

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    Aug 9, 2018
    Still wonder what we were thinking, Kubo would have had about as many minutes here had he stayed, more even. Hope we get him out of there in January.
     
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  9. RMrules

    RMrules Member+

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    Aug 12, 2019
    Villareal has so many attacing players,why did we loaned him to them ?Cociedad was perfect,they needed a replacement for Odegaard and playing time was guaranteed .

    ANd yes he should have stayed,he is far better than Rodrygo,Lucas and the fat loser
     
  10. Hsain85

    Hsain85 Member+

    Mar 28, 2006
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    Who didn't see that coming?
     
  11. Doni

    Doni Member+

    Dec 4, 2010
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    His start at Villarreal is similar to his start at Mallorca where he had to improve and prove himself to be worthy of a starting spot.

    I’d be worried if Kubo or thr club thought his start at Villarreal wouldn’t begin in a similar way.

    He made the decision to join a higher tier in the league because it affords him a better development once he starts becoming more established within his new team.
     
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  12. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    It's a custom on almost every team. Michael Ballack had to perform a song in the locker room when he signed with Chelsea. Not responding to you because you knew that already but somebody might not and it's a fun way to integrate new guys into the squad.
     
  13. 4x4s

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    He's getting minutes outside of the spotlight, whereas with Madrid every touch every pass every mistake would be talked about for an entire week.
     
  14. Shay Z

    Shay Z Moderator
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    Jan 3, 2007
    Spot on. He’s leveled up to a higher tier of team. If it takes him a little while to get going that’s fine. Playing every minute of every game at Elche or whoever wouldn’t mean he’s ready to play in the CL for us next season. I don’t think Emery has anything against him. Maybe he just isn’t ready yet. Hopefully he ends up being a starter for the second half of the season if not earlier.
     
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  15. Drouchk

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    Aug 9, 2018
    I get that but if Vinnie, Rodrygo, Fede etc... can handle it so can Kubo, Ideally he go on a loan to a different team, one that'd start him.
     
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  16. 4x4s

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    Ideally he'd go to a team that doesn't coddle him. He'll be fine.
     
  17. Drouchk

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    Aug 9, 2018
    Who said anything about coddling him? You’re acting as if I’m asking for some talentless hack to get undeserved minutes simply because, he is too talented to be playing garbage minutes for a team like this Villareal, which many of you seem to think is the Villareal of 2006-2010 or something given by the constant “ well he’s jumped several tier higher so this is expected”, they’re not, they’re an average La Liga side currently and I’d be surprised if they finished top 6 this season.
    He should have gone to Granada or Sociedad, teams which coaches that actually nurture talent.
     
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  18. saadomar

    saadomar Member+

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    Mar 21, 2013
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    If we wanted him to rot on the bench for a high tier team we should've just kept him.
     
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  19. saadomar

    saadomar Member+

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    Mar 21, 2013
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    I'm not worried. If Emery keeps this up the plug on this loan will be pulled by January.
     
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  20. ImadEdd

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    Feb 17, 2019
    The kid has a lot of talent. He will win his place there. You just can't deny on the long run that he is better than the others even when your name is Emery and you're dumb.
    I'd have loved to keep him in our squad. He is way better than anyone we have on the right. But we spent 40m on Rodrygo and he is holding an extra community spot.
     
  21. saadomar

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    #321 saadomar, Oct 7, 2020
    Last edited: Oct 7, 2020
    Emery on Take's minutes:

    https://www.espn.com/soccer/villarr...o-being-held-back-by-unai-emery-at-villarreal

    In the same article, Graham Hunter says this "This smacks of a lack of confidence in his men from Emery, an old-fashioned Catenaccio-style thinking, an ultra-conservatism which always, always states: "It's better never to risk and thus avoid defeat than it is to roll the dice, stretch for a victory but then head home beaten." It's an outdated, old-fashioned philosophy which is very far from how the people who hired him think about things."
     
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  22. Zidane05

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    First of all, Graham Hunter is just bad. Second of all, in this sense it's not necessarily a bad take (pardon the pun), but it comes down to this: the coach has no obligation or incentive to develop players for other teams. At the end of the day he's held responsible for the results of his team. It's a risk we should have assessed when we completed this loan move.
     
  23. saadomar

    saadomar Member+

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    Mar 21, 2013
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    True. Ceballos and Brahim are turning out fine and their coaches have even more pressure to perform. If his assessment is that Take doesn't have the quality over 12 other players in freaking Villarreal then we should take him back without a shred of remorse. Send him elsewhere. This isn't Nuri Sahin.
     
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  24. Drouchk

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    Aug 9, 2018
    LOL what big risk is he talking about? They were already 4 goals down ..........this guy.
     
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  25. saadomar

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    Mar 21, 2013
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    In that game against Atletico Madrid they were 0-0. It was played on October 3rd.
     
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