Szetela to United http://sport.independent.co.uk/football/man_united/story.jsp?story=456973 Great news on our best youth not named Freddy.
wow, this is some potential great news. I just called my cousin in London and told him that if they keep signing our guys, they aren't gonna want to face us in a WC!! LOL This is just a great sign of things to come.
I found this very interesting from the article. If that comes to pass, we're gonna have a great thread on here about how this could affect the club system in the US.
i think it is already in the midst of affecting the club system. that is one of the reasons that MLS is dying to get Adu. If he is nearly as good as advertised, they will not only make money on him on the front side, but then they can make a nice chunk of change of him on the back end as well.
the things i could start to say about this article...... First, there are a LOT of clubs interested in Danny Szetela. Second, the bit about the fee is kind of off. Yes a youth club could receive some money from a pro club (I know of one instance with an American going overseas where this has happened). Third - he wouldn't qualify for a work permit right now, so the idea of him signing in the next few days is wrong. come on superdave - are you slipping? Fourth - he's in France now being looked at by a lot of people. I need to check on it, but I think there is something quite incorrect re the bounce match with Walsall bit. I will try to clarify by the beginning of next week.
I agree, the transfer fee talk was definitely the most interesting part about the article; I wonder, however, why exactly one would have to be paid. I'm suspicious because a lot of these writers don't seem to have any understanding of what the club system in America is like. Obviously, Szetela is not going to have signed a contract with World Class Olympic (perhaps it's not obvious, but I've never heard of this being done in the USA). And FIFA hasn't been making other clubs, whether it be MLS (Gaven, Memo) or overseas (Spector, Gelstenberger, etc.) pay the youth clubs developmental fees, so I don't really see what would compel Man U to pay anything. However, if they do, it could obviously have a pretty significant impact on how youth clubs develop players.
Isn't he supposed to have a Polish passport, Gers? It was my understanding that they, like Hungary, were getting work permits because Poland is due to be accepted into the EU, although it hasn't happened yet. Does Szetela, like Howard, not actually have a passport right now?
Gers...I'm not sure if Poland is in the EU now, or is going to go in at the same time as Hungary, but I'm 99% sure it's one or the other. So he'll be OK soon.
Szetela to United 1st May 2004 the EU will be expanded by Poland, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Slovenia, Malta and Cyprus.
yes - but i don't think that will get a youth player in just now. He's going to finish the year at Bradenton at any rate. there's quite a bit more going on here just now
Szetela to United Didn't Spector commit himself to Man Utd but stayed in Brandenton to finish that cycle. Also I've looked at some UK immigrtion sites and they are not exactly throwing WP's to the 'EU associated countries', such as Poland. But by May of next year it won't be a factor assuming the eurocrats are satisified and the expansion happens.
The money wouldn't be a transfer fee but would be compensation for costs incurred developing the player. Sunderland received compensation (even when he left on a free transfer) from Manchester United for David Bellion. In order for the club to get compensation, the player must be under 23 years when he is purchased by the next team. An arbitrator than fixes the amount of compensation, unless the purchasing club works out an acceptable agreement with the "home club". This situation came up with the spanish player (Rojas?) that Metrostars were considering purchasing before this season, as well. I was under the impression that the compensation had to be based on the costs of actual services, instruction and benefits by the home club, but the Bellion case resulted in a guaranteed £2million fee (up to £3million fee including add on bonuses for appearances, sell on clauses and the like). www.news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/ teams/s/sunderland/3123244.stm www.uk.biz.yahoo.com/031016/80/ebaiy.html http://www.examiner.ie/breaking/2003/10/16/story117592.html Obviously, the fact that Szetela is younger than Bellion and is not as highly rated as a prospect would likely lead to a lower fee for his home club, but it still doesn't hurt.
Thanks. Any results on these matches? I didn't notice any other threads. -- As for the fee to the youth club, I think that only applies if the player is playing on a scholarship. If mom or dad is writing a check for fees, then the youth club doesn't qualify for the fee.
France beat Poland today 5-0, but the French Federation web site doesn't carry the result of the other match today, USA-Japan. USA plays Poland on Thursday and France on Saturday. Hopefully GersMan or someone else has someone out there to give us a report.
pancifc speaks truth - so the examples Liverpool gives are from another world really, players don't pay to play on a youth team for a European professional club, they almost all to to play for a US team. BUT, there could be a fee paid, more as a token gesture, I think that's what happened in the cases I'm aware of involving players who have signed over seas in the past year.
In Championship Manager, how good or potentially good the player is has the biggest impact on the transfer fee. FWIW. And I think it's worth alot...CM tries very, very hard to get the business/rules side of the sport right.
This is what I notced. Both DaMarcus Beasley and Landon Donovan ahve very avergae skill ratings yet, you can't Donovan for anything less than 12 Mill, and Beasley is rated at around 6 Mill to open the game