"SUV Drivers are Self-Centered" - Proof or Rhetoric?

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by BrianJames, Jan 7, 2003.

  1. BrianJames

    BrianJames Member

    Jul 30, 2000
    Chicago
    http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=14839

    "Well, according to New York Times reporter Keith Bradsher's new book, "High and Mighty," the connection between the two isn't a coincidence. Unlike any other vehicle before it, the SUV is the car of choice for the nation's most self-centered people; and the bigger the SUV, the more of a jerk its driver is likely to be."

    The automakers have found their market for SUV's:

    "Armed with such research, automakers have, over the past decade, ramped up their SUV designs to appeal even more to the "reptilian" instincts of the many Americans who are attracted to SUVs not because of their perceived safety, but for their obvious aggressiveness."
     
  2. Mike Lane

    Mike Lane New Member

    Jan 3, 2001
    Atlanta
    Fits with my observations. I'm convinced.
     
  3. GringoTex

    GringoTex Member

    Aug 22, 2001
    1301 miles de Texas
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    I just think they're pussies.

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  4. CrewDust

    CrewDust Member

    May 6, 1999
    Columbus, Ohio
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    Me too.
     
  5. SoFla Metro

    SoFla Metro Member

    Jul 21, 2000
    Ft. Lauderdale, FL
    Sounds right to me. I drive an SUV and I'm a prick.
     
  6. Alberto

    Alberto Member+

    Feb 28, 2000
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    There we are an open and shut case. :D
     
  7. Danwoods

    Danwoods Member

    Mar 20, 2000
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    I drive a 3/4 ton extended cab long bed pick up. I wouldn't drive anything as small as an SUV.
     
  8. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
    San Rafael, CA
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    I laugh at the people pretending to be tough in this thread. I commute every day in a Caterpillar D8N bulldozer.
     
  9. BrianJames

    BrianJames Member

    Jul 30, 2000
    Chicago
    hehehe, lmao :)


    It's one thing to buy a car for image while it wastes gas, but another when the car is a proven danger to everyone on the road:

    "The occupant death rate in SUVs is 6 percent higher than it is for cars – 8 percent higher in the largest SUVs."

    and...

    "While failing to protect their occupants, SUVs have also made the roads more dangerous for others. The "kill rate," as Bradsher calls it, for SUVs is simply jaw-dropping. For every one life saved by driving an SUV, five others will be taken. Government researchers have found that a behemoth like the four-ton Chevy Tahoe kills 122 people for every 1 million models on the road; by comparison, the Honda Accord only kills 21. Injuries in SUV-related accidents are likewise more severe."
     
  10. joseph pakovits

    joseph pakovits New Member

    Apr 29, 1999
    fly-over country
    M1 Abrams- Everything else is for pu$$ies

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    This is me and my carpool folks on our daily commute. I'd drive by myself to waste more gas and support more Saudi terrorists but I need someone to let me know if there are any SUVs or pickups ahead to squish and also the .50 cal gunner to waste any survivors. The 120mm main gun comes in handy at toll booths.
     
  11. angus_hooligan

    angus_hooligan New Member

    May 15, 2001
    Chicago
    I too felt as if I had lots of power while driving my SUV. I've since gotten rid of it and have realized what little power I actually had.
     
  12. DoyleG

    DoyleG Member+

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    Or is it that you realized you couldn't get the SUV out of the snowbanks.:D
     
  13. amerifolklegend

    Jul 21, 1999
    Oakley, America
    I'd like to see the same numbers applied toward other SUVs. Meaning, since SUVs kill more people on the road, would that number lessen if those victims were in other SUVs. My guess would be most definately, seeing as how most people killed by SUVs (as opposed to in SUVs) are killed when they are either crushed by the SUV going over it in in accident or were simply overpowered and crumpled along with their car when an SUV twice the weight of the victim's car crashed into them.

    The reason I say this is simply because of the massive number of SUVs out there. If the odds are that you can get killed as easily by an SUV vs. by another small car, than it definately would make sense to protect yourself by driving a like-sized vehicle. Why put yourself in danger? If like the numbers say are true (122 vs 21 people killed per million) vs. a Honda, well I'd gladly sacrefice the difference if it meant saving my family.
     
  14. ruudboy

    ruudboy New Member

    Jul 6, 2000
    Sunnyvale
    In the Bay Area, usually the worst drivers have SUVs.My friend has a Navigator, he pays $1500 in gas a month, i kid you not!
     
  15. DoyleG

    DoyleG Member+

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    SUV owners need the "status symbol" that they provide. They care less about the costs for an SUV or the environmental factor.
     
  16. amerifolklegend

    Jul 21, 1999
    Oakley, America
    Why do you buy the clothes you buy? Why do you wear the shoes you wear? Why do you furnish your place they way you do?

    Everyone has status symbols. That's just a rediculous thing that SUV haters are constantly rehashing. They hate SUVs because they are status symbols, yet feel the need to trick out their '91 Dodge Neon with orange metallic paint and an aluminum whale tail glues to the trunk.

    Idiots.

    What is wrong with that? My SUV gets 25 mpg. It's a tiny SUV but it gets the job done.

    People buy SUVs for three reasons: Because they like to sit higher on the road, because they like the convenience it affords their family on trips both long and short, or simply because they can buy one. They are safer in a crash, they are easier on people that need to tote things around all the time, and they are great for driving in the rain since they sit so high up.

    As for the whole environment thing, come on. You really expect me to believe that the late 70s didn't go through the same thing when all the huge boats and the muscle cars were all the rage? This is the same thing all over again. Most people like to drive the cars they drive - big or small - and most people like to feel the safest they can in their vehicle. Naturally, a person is going to feel safer in a larger vehicle that puts them up above the rest of traffic when confronted with bad weather. I know I do.

    But fret not, these things go in cycles. Your little tiny fuel cells will come back in style in no time so you can all get back to what you are obviously so very worried about dedicating the lot of your time to - protecting the environment. ************in' weekend hippies.
     
  17. skipshady

    skipshady New Member

    Apr 26, 2001
    Orchard St, NYC
    Re: Re: "SUV Drivers are Self-Centered" - Proof or Rhetoric?

    Screw fuel cell. At least until it's actually affordable.

    I believe Ford has a hybrid edition of their Escape SUV coming out this year and should only be slightly more expensive than their conventional model.
    SUVs are where automakers should be targeting their hybrid technology for anyway and I see hybrids, not electric, being the wave of the future.
     
  18. Colin Grabow

    Colin Grabow New Member

    Jul 22, 1999
    Washington, DC
    I think the real pricks are the self-righteous ones who think that driving a tin can puts them on some higher moral plane.
     
  19. amerifolklegend

    Jul 21, 1999
    Oakley, America
    My car doesn't put me on the higher moral plane I live on.

    My constant being right is what puts me on the higher moral plane.
     
  20. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    The Republicans are against just about any policy that would lower mortality rates. At least, they are consistent.
     
  21. Sneever Flion

    Sneever Flion New Member

    Oct 29, 2002
    Detroit, MI
    I would love to be able to afford an SUV. Period.
     
  22. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
    San Rafael, CA
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    > I think the real pricks are the self-righteous ones
    > who think that driving a tin can puts them on
    > some higher moral plane.

    It isn't the kind of car. Wasting limited resources is a sin against nature.
     
  23. Ian McCracken

    Ian McCracken Member

    May 28, 1999
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    Yes, most people who drive SUVs are incapable of driving them. But, this movement against SUVs is so obviously another tired attempt by the misguided left to save us from ourselves. These fascists would pass a law tomorrow to ban SUVs if they could. The environmental argument against SUVs wasn't working for them and neither was the "safety" argument. So, now they're resorting to their tried and true tactics of name calling by trying to stigmatize SUV drivers as arrogant. Ok, whatever. More petty jealousy on the part of guilt-ridden trust fund baby liberals.
     
  24. DJPoopypants

    DJPoopypants New Member

    OK, what about supporting terrorists, eh?

    Indisputably, SUVs consume much more gas than a Kia. And who really benefits from the $ we pay for gas? Perhaps the $ given to the WTC demolishers was partially Saudi financed from, no, you're kidding me, oil monies?

    It really bugs me when I see the anti-drug commercials on TV that say I support terrorists cuz I do drugs. OK, maybe if I did heroin, cuz Afghanistan and pakistan supply a buttload of that.

    But what about that nasty weed? I guess I just have to live with myself for supporting those nasty Canadian and Jamaican terrorists who are planning on setting off a dirty bomb here in my 'hood.
     
  25. Sneever Flion

    Sneever Flion New Member

    Oct 29, 2002
    Detroit, MI
    Not to get too far off topic, but if you think weed is the only thing they sell, then you're dumber than you sound. And you sound pretty dumb. But you go on feeling good about your weed habit.
     

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