Surprised this thread hasn't been started yet: but an "Are You Hot?" thread is going? Say it ain't so! Perhaps it's the downer of how crappy the last couple Survivor's have been...you folks giving up on the show? Anyway, I did check it out tonight, and I have to say it looks very promising. This Men v. Women thing worked well, and there seem to be some "characters" that they've been missing in the past few. The producers clearly played up the M/F differences bigtime in this first episode so as to make the immunity challenge more dramatic. And as manipulative and obvious as the show clearly is, I have to say I think it works. Burnett simply knows how to tell a story, and that's what this show is ultimately about. The problem is that he is constrained by the raw materials he gets dealt in the casting process, and the last two times he's been dealt a bunch of dead fish.
I think, in the previous five (there have been 5 of em, right?) Survivors I have watched a total of an hour. However, this Survivor intrigues me because of the male vs. female concept. I caught the last half hour tonight, and I think a little piece of every guy died with that show. It doesn't come down to brains, or brawn, or the Y chromosome or lack of it...it all boils down to this: EGO. There is never a more deflating experience than losing to a girl...especially if it is in front of (a) your peers (b) other girls (c) a national television audience. The guys must use their fear of losing to motivate themselves and push themselves to win.
I didnt see the show but this always happens when they do a M vs F show. Males get their egos up and think they can win everything then lose. It happened in the REAL World/Road Rules Challenge too. I think its because the males go in thinking that they are going to be doing things like moving boulders and weightlifting competitions. If it was going to be all physical why even have the show? The producers are always going to balance it out and do some stunts that are more "brains" to even the score out. Else it wouldnt be that fun to watch, even as a guy cause we'll win everything.
Last season was so bad that it can only be better. I don't see the personalities yet though. The only one I'm rooting for is the deaf girl since she was having such a hard time of it. As long as the hot girls remain on I'll keep watching.
Except that the women really didn't keep up with the men on the first mental challenge and if the men had any balance, they would have won. As it was the women all passed over the balance beam section before the last pair of men completed it. (It made me smile that the two most macho dudes couldn't get across the beam). The women then beat the men at the puzzle assembly and Heidi raced up to unleash the flying fox and get her last key. The women are going to be in trouble though as the show progresses if they can't get their asses together and build a proper shelter. The guys have a sweet shelter, but then they do have a VP of a construction firm on their team.
One thing that struck me was that it was almost like the producers actually stacked the deck against the women. I mean, why do THEY get the deaf member? Why do THEY get the overweight homemaker? I mean, there are plenty of overweight and handicapped men out there... A few more Jackie Joyner Kersee types might have helped. Other thoughts: -Only one black contestant this time; 1 Asian; and that's pretty much it for non-Wasps from what I could tell. (no problem with it, just find it interesting) -The "we must wash our buffs" bit was hysterical. I feel bad for that one chick who was rolling her eyes at this nonesense.
Tonight's episode was not good for the chicks. Does anyone else think this show is setting back the cause of feminism by 30 years?
Gawd are those "I'm cute" chicks irritating. Get over yourselves, you're in the freaking amazon dumbasses! Don't these slackers ever watch previous survivors? I was surprised by Deena going along with the young crowd, but atleast her reason for taking out Joanna made sense. It was horrifically short-sighted and awful for poor Shawna who's stuck miserable and sick in the amazon. Like they are going to win anything next week or ever again without someone who is strong and provided them with food.
In the end it's all about winning rather than surviving. They needed Shawna for one more tribal council because they'll need at least 4 votes against whomever they decide to vote out next time. They couldn't really count on Christy to be the fourth, and if they all had voted Shawna out tonight there would be two alliances of three next time: Jeanne, Joanna and Christy; and then Jenna, Heidi and Deanna. Instead, they've got Shawna, Jenna, Heidi and Deanna going into the next council. While only Christy and Jeanne remain from the other alliance. They can knock those two out back to back before heading into the merge... But I agree the hotties are annoying as hell. I wonder how the "older" ladies are taking it now while watching the TV version for the first time with the rest of us...
I agree that they are eliminating the other alliance now and it seems like a good idea, but going into the merge down in numbers has never been a good thing in the past. Unless the too cute for you group thinks that they can seduce/charm the men into keeping them when the tribes merge. I really don't see how the women will be able to win anything with Shawna as ill as she seems.
I guess it depends on how cohesive the tribe is that heads into the merger with a numbers advantage. I'm with you in thinking that Shawna is going to collapse while brushing her hair and that, short of an immunity challenge that calls for the tribes to withstand numerous kicks to the groin (yeah, yeah, it hurts women, too... but come on now), the girls are going to lose next week and could vote Shawna out in a mercy killing. But if the guys are splintered, then all the remaining girls have to do once the tribes merge is side with one of the two male factions and ride that alliance as far as it'll take them...
From what Deena was saying it seems like Shawna was just dehydrated which can make you go crazy. Shawna seemed better later and I bet that the Survivor production staff just wanted to make it interesting. If Shawna really wanted to leave they would have voted for her. Heck, Christy voted for Joanna and you know the only reason was that Shawna reassured her that she didn't want to go yet. Christy is too compassionate otherwise. The longer Shawna says on the longer that I'm interested in watching! So hot! Also I'm so, so glad that Joanna is gone. Most annoying survivor ever! Next down, Jeanne!
You got that right. Jeanne is gone. But what do you think will happen with the turn coat (sorry, I forgot her name).