Superleague 2011/12

Discussion in 'Austria & Switzerland' started by magicgam1, Jun 5, 2011.

  1. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    May 20

    FT Grasshoppers 0 - 1 Zurich

    FT Lucerne 0 - 1 Thun

    FT Servette 2 - 1 Basel

    FT Young Boys Bern 3 - 0 Sion


    Great win by Basel. Many people can not believe that Servette will be playing in the Europa League. They argue that if Xamax/Sion had not been penalized Servette would not be there. If Basel had played their best team, they would not have lost, etc. In the end of the day, Servette gets a spot. The key for me was the stretch where Servette won two in a row when they were not getting paid. That was the key stretch for me. Thun took 12 points from Servette, but they could not quite get the points they needed. FCZ with the "away" victory in the Limmat Derby. YB with a crushing victory over Sion.

    1. Basel 33 +46 74
    2. Luzern 33 +12 51
    3. YB 33 +13 48
    4. Servette 34 -8 48
    5. Thun 33 -1 43
    6. Zürich 33 -3 38
    7. Lausanne-Sport 33 -33 27
    8. GC 33 -33 26
    9. Sion* 33 +7 17
    10. NE Xamax** 18 0 26
     
  2. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    May 23

    20:15 Basel ? - ? Young Boys Bern

    20:15 Lausanne Sports ? - ? Grasshoppers

    20:15 Sion ? - ? Lucerne

    20:15 Thun ? - ? Zurich


    With a YB victory and a Luzern loss, YB could end up 2nd. Sion needs to do something to show that they are ready for the play-off.
     
  3. magicgam1

    magicgam1 Member

    Dec 22, 2005
    Lausanne
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    last round today, but everything is decided...
    well, I'd better say the last round is tomorrow when the SFL informs about the licenses for next season. Will Sion be left out?? Do Servette, FCZ and YB get their licenses as expected?
     
  4. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And from the world of the bizarre - Pishyar has come out and said that everything he did, or did not do with Servette, was calculated to get the city behind the club again.

    The text of the interview is here:
    http://www.tdg.ch/sports/sfc/pishyar-strategique-servette-fc/story/10653542

    Thanks to Google Translator, here are some of the comments:
    But, Mr. Pishyar, you have abandoned Servette, who found himself on the brink of bankruptcy.

    No, things did not work out like that. I've always had big plans for Servette. I wanted to develop this club so that it has a future. I was there excitement around the club. I see that people came. Finally, no matter who is president.
    But you've stopped paying suppliers, and coaches and training staff and players. This is how we help to develop a club?
    I too have suffered from being alone for long. And listen: everything that was part of a strategy. And I see today that this was the best thing to do. Because it has awakened the people of Geneva, as I wished. Somehow, I sacrificed for the good of Servette. It was a good handling of the situation. When one is sure of the future, what will happen, we know what to do.
    You left the club and soon the financial and economic, that you call for help, have decided to trust Hugh Quennec, but that's a failure for you, right?
    Not at all. I did all this for Servette. For four years I was all alone in the club head. I thank the economic and financial circles for being here today. Really. But if they are there, it is precisely because they have realized that I was alone. And if I did not pay more, Servette was wrong. Again, all this was strategic.
    Many scholars have examined the accounts you have left: it is reported a hole eight million if your management had continued into June. How do you respond?
    Say what you want, these are words, numbers. The reality is that before, nobody wanted to help Servette and now after my action, everyone is back behind the club. Some may be dissatisfied with the method. But it's like when you raise a child: sometimes decisions are made ​​that the child does not like. Not because they are bad, but because he does not understand they are part of an educational strategy. It was the same with Servette. This is why I am happy today. Servette and if ever encounter a problem again, so I'll be there!
     
  5. mwswiss

    mwswiss New Member

    May 7, 2012
    Club:
    BSC Young Boys Bern
    so the final league games go today? YB already sits 3rd even a loss and with Servette sitting 4th and with no more matches to play does that not guarantee YB 3rd? Unless Basel destroys them and the goal difference is overturned.
     
  6. mwswiss

    mwswiss New Member

    May 7, 2012
    Club:
    BSC Young Boys Bern
    My apologies I have only been closely following the Swiss leagues over the last few years, previous to that it was more a passing fancy. What I am trying to understand is the Swiss at least by North American perceptions are considered smart and frugal financial operators so what I don't understand is why are the leagues/clubs such a mess?
     
  7. mwswiss

    mwswiss New Member

    May 7, 2012
    Club:
    BSC Young Boys Bern
    Does any one know if Neuchatel Xamax is now officially Xamax 1912? As the club badge on the official site no longer mentions Neuchatel? I think the badge looks very sharp with just Xamax on it. This seasons badge was just aweful!
     
  8. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The reason for Xamax is one crazy owner. Servette's owner had some serious issues as well. In both cases, I think that they will recover well. YB overextended itself in trying to take on Basel. GCZ has had poor decisions for the past few years as well. Although there are many wealthy Swiss, few seem to want to invest in Swiss soccer. Winter sports dominate the country, specifically individual ones.
     
  9. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I believe that Xamax 1912 is now the name of the club.
     
  10. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The key is 2nd place. If YB wins and Luzern looses, then YB would get 2nd place. That being said, this will essentially be a send off match for Shaquri, Xhaka, Huggel, etc. I expect Basel to come out strong and try to destroy YB. Sion needs to do something before the play-off. If they have to play Aarau, they could easily loose.
     
  11. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    I just want to beat Lausanne today and move into 7th place. With all the Sion court cases I don't want a single shred of uncertainty.
     
  12. mwswiss

    mwswiss New Member

    May 7, 2012
    Club:
    BSC Young Boys Bern
    thank you for all the answers that helps to shed some light on things for me. This forum is of great value as I don't get a whole lot of Swiss league info in English.
     
  13. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    May 23

    FT Basel 1 - 2 Young Boys Bern

    FT Lausanne Sports 2 - 1 Grasshoppers

    FT Sion 1 - 3 Lucerne

    FT Thun 2 - 4 Zurich


    Despite the surprise YB victory, things at the top stay the same. At the bottom, the LS win moves them into 7th.

    1. Basel 34 +45 74
    2. Luzern 34 +14 54
    3. YB 34 +14 51
    4. Servette 34 -8 48
    5. Thun 34 -3 43
    6. Zürich 34 -1 41
    7. Lausanne-Sport 34 -32 30
    8. GC 34 -34 26
    9. Sion* 34 +5 17
    10. NE Xamax** 18 0 26
     
  14. magicgam1

    magicgam1 Member

    Dec 22, 2005
    Lausanne
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Servette got the license for next season!!! YES!
     
  15. magicgam1

    magicgam1 Member

    Dec 22, 2005
    Lausanne
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Sion vs Aarau Saturday and Monday - with only a 2day break in between the two legs, Sion could have an advantage with their bigger squad
     
  16. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If Sion plays anywhere to their potential, they should win the play-off.
     
  17. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    FC Sion, YB and FCZ as well.
    AC Bellinzona and FC Lugano got their Level II license as well.

    SC Kriens was the only total loss. But they were relegated anyway.
     
  18. Barum

    Barum Member

    Jun 19, 2005
    Devon, SW England
    Club:
    Exeter City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Well I'm afraid it didn't happen. GC odds on for relegation next season!! We obviously would have finished bottom apart from non-football factors, I think maybe relegation would be a good thing, with a cut in costs and maybe a chance to restructure the entire setup.

    Hopp GC,

    John (English GC)
     
  19. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    My biggest fear about getting relegated is that FCZ will try to take over as the "only" club in Zurich, especially if it turns out to be a spell of many years. Cut costs and have a balanced budget, but we have to stay in the ASL!
     
  20. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sion overpowers Aarau 3-0. They look like the "funk" is over. Last match is at Aarau.
     
  21. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was wondering if GCZ fans felt that way. Does GCZ and FCZ split concessions at the stadium? Who gets that revenue source? Not that I am encouraging this, but with Adill back next season, that is at least one exciting attacking player.
     
  22. magicgam1

    magicgam1 Member

    Dec 22, 2005
    Lausanne
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Aarau played under protest. They think they should have played vs GC
     
  23. mwswiss

    mwswiss New Member

    May 7, 2012
    Club:
    BSC Young Boys Bern
    Does Aarau's protest have any merit? So according to them Sion should have been automatically relegated and GC should have been the play-off opponent? I see there point Sion is far superior to GC.

    Why didn't Xamax play the season out in administration like British clubs do? Or couldn't have the League with help from the other teams kept them alive until new ownership was found? It looks like this could have been handled a whole lot better. I know on Xamax forums the supporters appeared to want this to happen so they could start with a new foundation. I hope it works out for them in the end.
     
  24. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Aarau wins 1-0 but does not get promoted.
     
  25. magicgam1

    magicgam1 Member

    Dec 22, 2005
    Lausanne
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Aarau could only have played GC if Sions penalty would have been reduced. If Sion would have been relegated, Aarau would move up automatically without a play-off

    I don't know about Xamax' structure. In Servette's case in 2005, the association which was responsible for the U-21 could have finished the season theoretically as the association was not bankrupt as the first team. If Xamax had the same kind of separation, this could have been possible.
     

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