Supercoppa/Coppa Italia 19/20

Discussion in 'Juventus' started by Dante, Dec 10, 2019.

  1. gumbacicc

    gumbacicc Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    USA
    Sarri has them nowhere near as well-organized defensively than Allegri did. The Verona loss never would have occurred where you had an Allegri side defending a 1-0 lead going into the last third of the game.

    Meanwhile you don't have any of the positive aspects, particularly in attack, that have been associated with Sarri sides of the past.

    So basically what we have is a hybrid side with none of the benefits of a Sarri or Allegri-coached side, but will all the negatives associated with those two, that relies on Ronaldo to bail them out every match.
     
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  2. Daei_10

    Daei_10 Member+

    Aug 22, 2007
    LA, California
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Jeez u guys have bad memory....last 2yrs of Allegri was agonizing. Not much different than this Sarri team
     
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  3. IcEWoLF

    IcEWoLF Member+

    Juventus
    Jul 15, 2014
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This team needs to get their s*t together.
    Management needs to make moves happen, the midfield game needs to be rebuild, the mid was better with Khedira than these bums.
     
  4. gumbacicc

    gumbacicc Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    USA
    Hence why Allegri got the boot. However Allegri generally had the side well-organized defensively. Sarri has yet to do that over long stretches.
     
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  5. Daei_10

    Daei_10 Member+

    Aug 22, 2007
    LA, California
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agreed at least defensively we were better. This year our defense gets carved open so easily even by shit teams.

    And dont get me started on set pieces...feels like a PK against us
     
  6. Afghan-Juventus

    Afghan-Juventus Member+

    Oct 14, 2012
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Afghanistan
    Keep in mind that Sarri has not had Chiellini at his disposal for the entire season. When Allegri lost Chiellini last season and didn't have his usual world class replacements available because Barzagli was out of form and her forced Benatia out, the defense fell apart as well.
     
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  7. gumbacicc

    gumbacicc Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    USA
    I don't think that the central defense has been the major issue after the first couple of months. Overall, Bonucci has played well. Demiral was excellent before going down with injury and De Ligt keeps getting better.

    The issue with Sarri is that whether or not intended the fluidity of play has not been there and this team has no clear identity other than getting bailed out by Ronaldo. True, this was our identity in Allegri's last season as well, but we brought in Sarri to play more aesthetic, positive football. That hasn't happened.
     
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  8. Daei_10

    Daei_10 Member+

    Aug 22, 2007
    LA, California
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well Ronaldo needs to be scoring those goals, thats why he gets paid 3x our highest paid. He also gets 7 pk goals to his name that others may have pulled. In open play he actually has less goals that Ilicic in the league
     
  9. gumbacicc

    gumbacicc Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    USA
    There is no one else that plays for this side that can do what Ronaldo does. It's just a fact.
     
  10. juventino13

    juventino13 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2005
    Caribbean
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Ronaldo has scored in 11 straight games, he's not the problem. In fact if it wasn't for him we'd probably be in third right now
     
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  11. Daei_10

    Daei_10 Member+

    Aug 22, 2007
    LA, California
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hes not the problem but hes doing his job like Bonucci or TEK are doing on defense. He also plays 90min of every game so yes im expecting those goals and more actually. He should be scoring above 30 in a season
     
  12. gumbacicc

    gumbacicc Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    USA
    Saying Ronaldo merely "does his job" is akin to saying Messi does his job. It's unrealistic to expect that Ronaldo could or should do any more than what he is doing. He is an elite, all-time player, on top form and we'd be in big trouble these last couple of seasons had he not been part of the squad.
     
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  13. juventino13

    juventino13 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2005
    Caribbean
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Italy is such a mess, now they're saying Juve-Milan might be played behind closed doors hours after saying it would be limited to fans not from affected regions.

    Decision won't be until later today apparently.
     
  14. juventino13

    juventino13 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2005
    Caribbean
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Current word on the street is Juve-Milan will be postponed.

    This season is a disaster
     
  15. juventino13

    juventino13 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2005
    Caribbean
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    And now its official, tomorrows match vs Milan has been postponed
     
  16. juveeer

    juveeer Member+

    Aug 3, 2006
    With the fixtures piling up in the League, they should just cancel the Coppa at this point.
     
  17. Falc

    Falc Member+

    Jul 29, 2006
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Better yet, put it on hold and use it as preseason fixture.
     
  18. juventino13

    juventino13 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2005
    Caribbean
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    So the evil Juventus that doesn't want to give fans their money back for tickets just gave away 3 tons of food to people in need that were to be sold at the bars and restaurants of the Allianz for the Milan match
     
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  19. NicktheGreek

    NicktheGreek Member+

    Feb 15, 2001
    Food spoils, money just goes to Switzerland
     
  20. juventino13

    juventino13 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2005
    Caribbean
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    My question after all of this is, who ********ing cares? Its their prerogative
     
  21. usnroach

    usnroach Member+

    Jul 5, 2009
    SoCal
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is every team going to refund all ticket sales for the next month? Or is it just the money hungry Juventus management?
     
  22. Daei_10

    Daei_10 Member+

    Aug 22, 2007
    LA, California
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Juve should be ashamed...if you are going to rob people of their hard earned money, at least offer an alternative....i dont know free J membership or some 50% discount code or something?

    Come on its not that hard to get creative Agnelli. I pay for annual membership thru our fan club that doesn't have many perks...but seeing how our club treats fans these days i might reconsider renewing. This isnt the way to do business and if theyre too cheap, i will withdraw my support.
     
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  23. juventino13

    juventino13 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2005
    Caribbean
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Rumors that football will kick off again at the end of May (27th and 28th) starting with the Coppa Italia semis.

    Yeaaaaa, that would be a mistake. Just scrap the season already, stop trying to force this shit
     
  24. gumbacicc

    gumbacicc Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    USA
    The league announces it will reopen about two seconds ago and both Milan clubs are already complaining about the Coppa Italia scheduling. I used to be against the idea of a European Super League, but to the extent that we can get away from some of these whining, peasant clubs, I am all for it. Inter may be able to get in such a league given their present standing, but Milan are no longer a big club.
     
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  25. Dante

    Dante Moderator
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    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The semi-finals and final is about 3/4 days apart lol
     
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