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OOOOOHHHHH CHIIIIIICAAAGOOOOOOOOOOO HEEEEEYYY FIIIIIREEEEEE GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO (JUMP!!!!) LO LO LO LO LO LO LO LO LO LO LO LO LO LO LO LO LO LO LO LO LO LO LO LO LO LO LO LO LO LO OOOOOHHHHH CHIIIIICAAAGOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Don't stop living in the Reed!! Don't stop Living in the ReED!! Don't stop Living in the ReeeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEED!! Ooooooh OH! OoooooH Oh! RED RED RED RED RED RED RED RED
It would be all kinds of cool if people could learn this song for LA, or at least a verse or two. I even think there is usually a supporters' song contest at the party after the gala usually. It's really not hard and a lot of people already know it: Audio I met my love By the gas works wall Dreamed a dream By the old canal Kissed a girl By the factory wall Dirty old town Dirty old town Clouds are drifting Across the moon Cats are prowling On their beat Springs a girl In the street at night Dirty old town Dirty old town Heard a siren From the docks Saw a train Set the night on fire Smelled the spring On the smoky wind Dirty old town Dirty old town I'm going to make Me a good sharp axe Shining steel Tempered in the fire Will chop you down Like an old dead tree Dirty old town Dirty old town I met my love By the gas works wall Dreamed a dream By the old canal Kissed a girl By the factory wall Dirty old town Dirty old town
SHE IS BEAUTIFUL! SHE IS BEAUTIFUL! NA-NA NA NA, NA-NA-NA-NA NA NA-NA NA NA, NA-NA-NA-NA NA!!!!!!!! I Love New York City! OOOOHHHH YEAHHHHH! NEW-YORK-CITY!!!!!! GO AWK! GO FIRE! SHE-KA-GO! GREEN!!!!!!!!!!!!
What about doing something with Nitzer Ebb's "Join in the Chant" it's simple enough and already has FIRE in it we could replace one of those with KILL KILL KILL or whatnot. Feel free to edit. "judge, judge, judge, judge gold, gold, gold, gold guns, guns, guns, guns FIRE, FIRE, FIRE!!! muscle and hate muscle and hate muscle, muscle, muscle, muscle join in the chant join in the chant join in the chant join in the chant " Maybe to: "loud, loud, loud, loud red, red, red, red go, go, go, go FIRE, FIRE, FIRE!!! champions in red champions in red champions, champions, champions, champions join in the chant join in the chant join in the chant join in the chant"
Jeremy looks around and sees plastic table cloths, balloons, and placemats. Hm, looks like a self-aggrandizing church picnic to me. Section 8 has lost that Fire-loving feeling, it's all about getting on TV now.
Thanks Jeremy. When we are in the stadium two hours before kickoff working our butts off to set up things to hype up the section, the rest of the stadium and most important the Team it really leaves a warm fuzzy fealing to be trivialized by you. Meanwhile, watch for us on TV Sunday. Some of us are going into debt to have a chance to get some air time out there in Cali. Oh, we might even try and support our team a little while were there.
All about getting on tv? haven't we established the fact we're anything BUT that? Heck, for the DC game ESPN even asked us too coordinate some of our displays around their tv schedule 'so we get tv'. Refused. In LA, they tried to sit us in a camera facing side section once they saw how big our gorup would be and charge us a lot more. "you'll get better tv" Refused. In fact, we're looking at options for next year that would pssibly move Section 8 in SF and really marginalise visual exposure for better acoustical properties. TV-pandering? I don't think so. Section 8 is a lot of thigs, but never a tv show.
Section 8 is a sideshow now. You're busy wandering around with your toys, figuring out what minute you're going to throw crap around...what does that have to do with THE GAME? What the *#*#*#*# is the deal with throwing streamers BEFORE the game? What is that celebrating? What is that reacting to? Nothing, it's celebrating you getting on TV. You aren't supporting the team, you're trying to draw attention away from the game to yourselves. *#*#*#*# that.
Dear Jeremy: Please borrow a copy of any Argentina game form World Cup 78. Watch, rinse, repeat. It's also worth nothing that the streamers at kickoff have NEVER been on tv.
Alright. I wasn't going to say anything because I thought, "Hey everyone know Jeremy is a little weird and socially retarded so maybe he ment something else." Suck a fat baby's dick Jeremy. When you pull this pick on Section 8 crap you make Chicago sound like Columbus and I resent that.
Luckily it's only the truth in your strange demented world. The rest of us live together in the Red. And we are damn happy too. Just for a second let's pretend there was a single shred of merit to anything you are saying. Let's support the Fire the Jeremy Goodwin way. Let's take down all the Banners, the flags and any other displays. They might attract attention. Let's all wear black to the Fire games. Wouldn't want to match the team or anything. Next let's all stand there and stare quietly as the game unfolds. Just like Jeremy. Yep. I see your point. You are a true authority on support for the team. I am going to say my last on this. Everything we do is for the team. And after a game whenever I get a chance to talk with the players they ALWAYS mention how much they appreciate, like and enjoy the support we gave them that day. These sentiments are the ones that make me work harder to be bigger, louder and stronger in our support. It's for them that we do it. If you, Jeremy, are too ignorant to understand that then I only feel sorry for you. I hope you continue to support the Fire in whatever way you choose but insulting others who do it their way is just plain weak.
Bolanos to me after the conference final: (granted it was in spanish and this is paraphrased a bit but I'll translate for the rest) "What you do for us, every game, every day...we see. When we play poorly, it motivates us to be better. When we play well, it motivates us to be the best. If all of you were not there, we would not be here." And he doesn't just mean Section 8. He clearly sees Section 8 as being par with what he has known in Costa Rica, but he knows all the fans are behind this team. Seriosuly, more than any other team in this league, the Fire are a real club, a family. You could see it in the fans' faces Friday, the ex-players present, the ex-staff there, the current players and staff, even the Soldier Field workers were part of it. I don't know how many other teams in North America you can say such things about in any league...there are a few (the Red Wings, the Packers, the Canadiens, the Yankees) but not many. I guess what I'm saying is relaise how unique and special this club is, and how unlikely you are to see many other like it ever in your lifetime. Appreciate this thing while it's here because there will be days eventually, down the line, when the awards will be few and far between and the teams poor to mediocre. It may be a long time off, or it may not last long but it's inevitable, it will come. Appreciate what we have and how great this all is. Be happy.
Jeremy, you seem like you like the mystics. I've seen you stand with them during Fire games. Maybe you should become a KC fan. And trust me, you wouldn't be missed.
Jeremy, at the first game next season, i am going start a round of Dont Stop Living in the Red, and publically dedicate it just to you. Because that's how much I appreciate your insightful and constructive comments.
Jeremy, I think you're overreacting. And then I think a lot of people are overreacting to you. Sure, Section 8 has grown, in both size and what it seeks to accomplish. You claim that it is to get on TV. Others claim it is to support the team. Well, I hate to say it, but supporting the team leads to being on television. I was there back in the day when everyone just raised their scarf, or when the Ultras would just turn their jackets inside out. And S8 is now a spectacle, I see it and I am amazed at the sea of red, white and blue waving and screaming for the team, I can't comprehend what it's like to be on that field and know that there is that kind of support there, win or lose. But I can tell you that audiences matter and they can change the way things go, whether it's theatre, dance, concerts or sporting events. Television is a visual medium, directors seek good camera shots and to break up the monotony that is a field of green for two hours, they do camera shots of the fans. In most stadiums, they need to do closeups of kids or people with face paint. Those are typically more selfish grandstanding fans who seek to be on TV. Section 8 is taken as a whole, with interchangable parts. I hate to say it, but it's true. Take out Liam, Coz, Marcin or Tomek and someone else will beat the drum or lead the cheer or whatever, because they know it helps the team. I live in New York, this means that every game I go to does not have S8 type fans. The ESC tries, but it is unorganized and is a bunch of guys standing around. Giants Stadium has no atmosphere. Only when players are coming out or going into the tunnel can there be some sort of somewhat organized action. Recently I went to a Fire game at RFK. The change was astounding. Barra Brava, Screaming Eagles looked stunning jumping like they did, it blew the doors off "the wave" and with La Norte throwing confetti the entire game for no particular reason, this haze of white created a great atmosphere. Sure, DC didn't do what it needed to, but even though they were down a goal they tried a lot harder there than in Chicago. Talking to the players afterward, they certainly appreciated the effort, the spectacle, the joy of what people were trying to share. So what if it looks good on TV, I'm sure it looks just as good on days where it's not nationally televised, or there's only one camera pointed away from the section. If the TV catches it, so what, it's catching everyone, not just selected people in Section 8, and isn't that what S8 is about, everyone?
I'm having trouble figuring out if this guy's kidding, or actually just a moron. There's not much grey area either, unless it's between his ears. Go Fire.
1) Section 8 is supposed to be the spark that really gets the crowd going. Sure a couple hundred people who cheer the whole time are an incredible boost... but the displays before the game are not "selling out" the team; they are instead designed to get the crowd excited in the hope that 20,000 voices will (at least temporarily) join with the few hundred in Section 8. 2) Television coverage isn´t innately bad either. It gets publicity for the team and is a great way to recruit new fans who are into fun times at games. Moving Section 8 to suit a TV company may be bad if it costs us more money or takes away support from the team, but television coverage isn´t an all-encompassing evil. 3) Of course Section 8 is filled with lots of suburbanite brats (you can argue that I´m one of them), but when a group has fun like we do, it´s hard not to attract the attention of others who then want to join in on the fun. If they sing, who cares what their motives are? If they use their voice to help the team, then I don´t care what their socio-economic background is. The real problem is the people who dilute S.8. with their non-singing voices, but we´ll have plenty of time to deal with that after the Cup. Sincerely, Flynn
Jebus, where the *#*#*#*#*#*# did that come from? I lived in Chicago during the team's first three seasons and held season tickets in 2000, my last year in town. I moved to Iowa in October that year and since then have only been able to attend three to six games a year, only two this year, Friday night being the most recent. When I still lived in town and went to most every Fire home game at the old SF I hardly ever sat in Section 8. I don't know why exactly. Mostly because I was more intent on watching the game. Generally I attended with one or two friends with smallish children in tow. On a few occasions though, I waded in and invariably had a great time. It wasn't until I moved to Iowa and discovered BigSoccer as a way of keeping in touch with team news, etc. that I realized how much of a community the team and its supporters have built. I realized how hard that people like Marcin and Liam work to bring that community together in interesting, fun, and exciting ways at each game. And it wasn't until then that I began sitting in Section 8 each and every game I attended. In Section 8 one sees the entire spectrum of the Chicago community represented; the Hispanic, the Polish, the Irish, the Italian, African Americans, the well-to-do middle aged, the poor young students -- as well as the white, middle-class offspring of soccer moms and dads. Sometimes with same in tow. These people came together each and every week in a joyous, peaceful demonstration of their love for their team and the game. Last Friday in the cold and the drizzle before the game I drank myself silly, ate until fit to burst and met face-to-face quite a few people I'd only known as phosphors on a screen, and they were all unfailingly nice, and interesting; people I hope to get to know better through time not just because we share the Fire, but because they are nice, interesting people, the kind you WANT to get to know better regardless of socccer. During the game I yelled and sang myself horse and generally had the most electric sporting experience of my life; one that I am still giddy about four days later. This community extends beyond the "usual" suspects to broader fan base and helps make an excellent atmosphere at all Fire games. As someone who has had to get most of my Fire gratification via the TV for the last three years, I can testify to the following: a) Soccer fans in general and Section 8 in particular RARELY get the kind of TV lovin' that one sees in TV coverage of other major sports. This is probably because of the low budget nature of soccer coverage. There are not enough cameras on-site to both cover the field play AND go for the good crowd shots -- the director has to get quick and dirty shots during stoppages and between the halves. The only exception are the four or so games the Fire play for The Mouse (ABC/ESPN). b) The worst attended Fire home game sounds more like a soccer game should than most teams' best days. By that I mean that there is always some audible singing, cheering, chanting, ongoing during the entire match. No canned music, no organ, no PA annoucer revving up the crowd, just the voices of whoever is in Section 8 and whoever in the crowd follows along. The fact that this sense of community extends to the players and Fire staff and that the players feed off and respect that sense of community is fairly well-known and not subject to dispute. That sense of community and enhanced love of the game has affected my own life as well. It has inspired me to play more often. Playing more often lead to meeting more new and interesting people who, coincidentally also love soccer. Together we put together an adult league in a town that had never had one before. I've took the USSA Coaching courses and got my "D" License and coached U12 and U13 club soccer and had the joy of coaching my 5 year-old girl in her first year of AYSO. I had the intense joy of seeing my sometimes very insecure and hard to get to pay attention to anything three year-old concentrate intensely on his foot skills at a toddler clinic last month. So, with all this taken into account, you seem to think that a little coordinating of stunds and "pandering to the TV" somehow constitutes a "sellout," somehow equivalent to a rough-and-tumble yet trendy neighborhood succumbing to gentrification. I guess some people can't just let the experience happen to them. They don't feel good about themselves unless they can deconstruct it and, having broken it down into some sort of intellectual model that appeals (almost exclusively) to themselves, critique it. Whatever gets you through the night my man.
Now then, to get this thread back on track: Hope you fall into the ocean Hope you fall into the Ocean Hope you fall into the ocean Hope you fall into the OOOOoooocccceaannnn! Here's a modified version of an old Youth Brigade song "Sink with California" with a similar theme... Hope you sink with California when it falls into the sea Hope you sink with California when it falls into the sea also appropriate for LA and, soon enough, Chivas. But i'll probably stick to calling them both goat fvckers.