On Wednesday, House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Texas, called Democratic opponents of war in Iraq "reckless." DeLay assailed last weekend's "outrageous" speech by former Gov. Howard Dean, D-Vt., to the Democratic National Committee. The applause that greeted Dean's speech "proves who the Democrat Party is," DeLay told reporters. "They are fast becoming the appeasement party." It's easy to see why DeLay is angry. In his speech, Dean called the war a "quagmire" and compared it to Vietnam. He said it would "drag on," costing billions of dollars. He accused the president of failing to specify how long our troops would have to stay, and he urged the administration to withdraw them "before the body bags start coming home." Read the whole thing. For the many Republicans and many Democrats, it's much more about the party that's represented in the White House than it is about the issues.
i thought this was an interesting read, but looked largely ignored, so I'm bumping it back up to the front page.
This guy makes me sick. Condemning an operation that isn't even underway. Forseeing the deaths of American troops is despicable. You'd think this guy was in Saddam's "parliament" spouting anti- US rhetoric. I hope this guy is removed soon.
Re: Re: Sunshine Patriot Well, the sell-job and "diplomatic" (for lack of a better word) maneuvering that has preceded the war sure hasn't overwhelmed anyone with any great display of competence. The good thing is that the military portion of the conquest of Iraq wil be handled by professionals. Do you really think there will be NO Amercian casualities in Gulf War, Part Deux? Really?
Re: Re: Sunshine Patriot Hello McFly! It's called "risk assessment". It's the JOB of decision-makers to try and forsee possible outcomes of decisions and factor that into the decision making process. Hell, it is the decision making process!
Re: Re: Sunshine Patriot Dude you need to get it screwed on. Condemming... It is the right, nay the responsiblity of any and all Americans to look hard at the country's policies and/or plans for anything. Highest scrutiny goes to wars. Foreseeing... see above. He doesn't like what he sees when he plays it out in his head. Neither do lots and lots of reasonable people who otherwise think Saddam is a bad guy and should be removed. You'd think... whatever. empty rhetoric I hope this guy... Removed from what? You don't even know who he is do you? FYI the guy isn't even a current officeholder. He's the former six-term governor of Vermont. Here's a buck, buy at ticket for the clue bus. Oh, and for all that Dean is on the anti-war side. De Lay is his mirror image on the lunatic right. Consider the source.
Apparently, you're the only one who actually bothered to read the article. To everyone else, here's a spoiler: it's not about Dean.
Re: Re: Sunshine Patriot Your absolutely right. The fact that Tom DeLay has a leadership position is despicable.
I was all set to write an outraged reply, then read it all the way. Then I had to take the hook out of my mouth.
Re: Re: Re: Sunshine Patriot There is a vast difference between risk assessment, and saying that Americans will come home in body bags my the dozen. An appropriate thing to say is "this war might cost American lives, and are we prepared to give such a sacrifice?"But he is simply trying to be a f***ing defeatist to further his own pitiful political agenda, plain and simple.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sunshine Patriot I think you dodging the issue was actually audible that time. EDIT-Regardless if this guy holds any position or not, he should not be talking like that. Especially if he holds no position.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sunshine Patriot Mmm - nothing like starting the day with the clean, crisp taste of hook.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sunshine Patriot I mean, really, I don't even have to make you look foolish. You're doing it all on your own.
Oh God, I just went back and read the last paragraph of the article. Manny dude, I stand by my earlier post. You gotta get on the clue bus baby. For your own sake.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sunshine Patriot Damn these people and their exercise of their constitutionally-protected right to free speech! Damn them all!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sunshine Patriot Don't forget, the President's spokesman said: Edited to say that this quote was from 9/26/01 in response to Bill Maher's Politically Incorrect show.