Sudafed Now Controlled?

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by MasterShake29, Apr 17, 2006.

  1. MasterShake29

    MasterShake29 Member+

    Oct 28, 2001
    Jersey City, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How was it done then? Apologies if that was answered earlier.
     
  2. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    Perhaps you need to watch "how a bill becomes a law". CIVICS.
     
  3. YankHibee

    YankHibee Member+

    Mar 28, 2005
    indianapolis
    [​IMG]

    I'm just a bill,
    Yes, I'm only a bill,
    And I'm sitting here on Capitol Hill.
    Well, it's a long, long journey
    To the capital city,
    It's a long, long wait
    While I'm sitting in committee,
    But I know I'll be a law someday...
    At least I hope and pray that I will,
    But today I'm still just a bill.
     
  4. John Galt

    John Galt Member

    Aug 30, 2001
    Atlanta
    I'm assuming this socratic exercise will lead to hilarity in its logical conclusion so I'll hop on the hook...

    The Constitution says:
    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    Why, pray tell, do you ask?

    [bats eyes innocently. . . ]
     
  5. MasterShake29

    MasterShake29 Member+

    Oct 28, 2001
    Jersey City, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is not that obvious? Well ok then.

    I would say that the Bill of Rights is merely a list of restrictions on the federal government that helps ensure rights are not infringed (and I guess then extended to the states). It does not grant rights. I would say it presumes that people already have those rights. Else wouldn't it say that people have freedom of speech.

    The point being is that just because something isn't in the Constitution doesn't mean it's not a right.
     
  6. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    Then Matt, I suggest finding yourself a country with a better constitution. Darfur is just a few plane trips away.
     
  7. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Like......a right to privacy?

    :eek:

    Oh no he didn't! Captain Penumbra to the rescue!!!

    :p
     
  8. needs

    needs Member

    Jan 16, 2003
    Brooklyn
    Cool, I just had a divine revelation that I have a right to dump my trash in Prospect Park. I deny the legitimacy of any social power that tries to abridge my God-given right.
     
  9. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    Chicago
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you're going to go in this direction, then technically I have the right to murder someone if I choose. As humans on this planet we all have the right to do what we want. However, for societies to thrive and for there to be order in the world, restrictions must exist as well as pointed areas of freedom. The Constitution does not give us rights we have an infinite amount of freedom from day one. What it does do is it tells us those rights that cannot be taken away by the desingated governors among us. Other legal documents (drawn up by our duly elected representatives) will add the restrictions you seem to despise so much.
     
  10. Demosthenes

    Demosthenes Member+

    May 12, 2003
    Berkeley, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What about my right to free health care?

    Or my right to walk down the street without being sexually harassed?

    Or my right to keep every cent I earn?

    Aren't these creator-granted rights?
     
  11. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    Chicago
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    According to Orbitz, there is one that leaves at 6:05 pm tonight.
     
  12. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    Really? To Darfur? Do we still have direct flights from Wichita?
     
  13. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    Chicago
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The one I found left from Atlantic City Intl (close to Matt) at 605, but went to Cincinatti first, then stopped in London, then went on to Khartoum, the capital of Sudan. That's as close as I could find.
     
  14. John Galt

    John Galt Member

    Aug 30, 2001
    Atlanta
    Ejo is closer and there are more direct flights.
     
  15. MasterShake29

    MasterShake29 Member+

    Oct 28, 2001
    Jersey City, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm closer to Newark than Atlantic City. Should be able to find more flights from there.
     
  16. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 21, 2002
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm waiting for the day when one of you come up with a controversial and unpopular thought. That should be something.

    Keep thinking inside the box, gents
     
  17. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Understanding how the basic functions of government work constitutes thinking inside the box? Oh well........:rolleyes:
     
  18. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 21, 2002
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you are challenging the fundemental premise of our present government, then yes it does.
     
  19. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So.....pray tell.....what fundamental premise of our government is flawed?
     
  20. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 21, 2002
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ask MattBurlew. It's his argument
     
  21. chad

    chad Member+

    Jun 24, 1999
    Manhattan Beach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Burlew doesn't have an argument. He blurts out incoherencies and bizarre non sequiturs to which we reply only to show off how smart we are and pat each other on the back. Burlew knows as much about civics, political philosophy, jurisprudence, and logic as my daughter's hokey-pokey elmo.


    edit: I take that back. When hokey-pokey elmo falls over, it knows to say "whoops. can you help me up?". Even more, when you do help it, it says "thank you".
     
  22. Coach_McGuirk

    Coach_McGuirk New Member

    Apr 30, 2002
    Between the Pipes
    This thread is a prime example of the greatness of BigSoccer. Only here can we go from "When did the government make it illegal to buy more than 2 boxes of Sudafed" to a long, mind numbing argument over the difference between the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, with a smattering of references to (some) semi-obscure treaties, manifestos, and delarations of the past 2000 years....

    I fully expect that we will be arguing over historical accuracy of the Bible within the next few hundred posts......
     
  23. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    Yeah, I'm the paragon of popularity on BigSoccer. :rolleyes:
     
  24. dfb547490

    dfb547490 New Member

    Feb 9, 2000
    The Heights

    I'm an amendment to be, yes an amendment to be
    And I'm hoping that they'll ratify me....
    There's a lot of flag burners who've got too much freedom,
    And I wanna make it legal for policemen to beat 'em,
    Cause there's limits to our liberties,
    At least I hope and pray that there are
    'Cause those liberal freaks go too far...

    Then I'll crush all opposition to me,
    I'll make Ted Kennedy pay,
    If he fights me, I'll say that he's gay...
     
  25. Dolemite

    Dolemite Member+

    Apr 2, 2001
    East Bay, Ca

    this is sick. and yet pretty typical for a consevative.
     

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