Sudafed Now Controlled?

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by MasterShake29, Apr 17, 2006.

  1. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Atlanta
    So it's not self-evident.
     
  2. DoyleG

    DoyleG Moderator
    Staff Member

    FC Edmonton
    Canada
    Jan 11, 2002
    Victoria, BC
    Club:
    FC Edmonton
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Except for a certain AirCav officer.
     
  3. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    Sudafed has never cleared some overgrown weeds on my hemp farm either.
     
  4. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    :confused: If you can find me a US legal document talking about rights you get from the creator, I'll be all eyes and ears. And agog, even.
     
  5. chad

    chad Member+

    Jun 24, 1999
    chicago
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't know what you have against using reason. If you think what you typed is a relevant response to what I posted, I suggest you be put in a zoo.

    But for humor's sake: I would not support a ban on sodomy. I would support you being sterilized based on the evidence I have. You want to ask me more questions for fun, or would you like to discuss how rights are generated and/or grounded?
     
  6. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Sorry Comrade, I’m not really interested in debating whether the Founding Fathers were just being politically expedient.... I’m trying to parley a giant red paperclip into a Beverly Hills mansion via the Internet (is this a great country or what?).
     
  7. MasterShake29

    MasterShake29 Member+

    Oct 28, 2001
    Jersey City, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Declaration of Independence.
     
  8. MasterShake29

    MasterShake29 Member+

    Oct 28, 2001
    Jersey City, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So rights are "social constructs"? Does that mean society (meaning a majority thereof) can take rights away whenever they decide?
     
  9. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    Is not a legal document.

    Thanks for playing.
     
  10. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    Your definition of "society" is completely at odds with its accepted definition, making this a curious debate.
     
  11. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    You'd first be advised to understand that the United States never issued the Declaration of Independence. You'd be on equally sound grounds trying to justify your views on "rights" by the contacts to Sam Adams's failed brewing business.

    Good luck parleying with office supplies. I can never seem to get a response out of them.
     
  12. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    Why can't we do both? Your refusal to let me is a direct violation of my rights.
     
  13. Chewmylegoff

    Chewmylegoff Member

    Jan 26, 2004
    London
    sounds like it's easier to get hold of crystal meth than sudafed.
     
  14. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Touché... parlay. French grammar smack is so sexy. :D
     
  15. MasterShake29

    MasterShake29 Member+

    Oct 28, 2001
    Jersey City, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I knew this is what you'd come back with.

    If you asked the Founding Fathers where "rights" come from, how do you think they'd respond.

    And instead of questioning my definition of "society", why don't you answer the question.
     
  16. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    That's what I tell my nephew when he presumptuously tells me that 2+2 is four. The nerve.

    I don't really give a flying ******** what they'd say. Because we aren't governed by the Founding Fathers or the Declaration of Independence.

    What question?
     
  17. MasterShake29

    MasterShake29 Member+

    Oct 28, 2001
    Jersey City, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So the Declaration of Independence is meaningless, huh? Wow.

    Anyway, 2 questions:

    1. Where do rights come from?

    2. Can "society" (whatever that word means to you) remove rights through the democratic or other processes?

    3. If "society" decided to jail Lazio and Chelsea fans, would that be ok?
     
  18. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    You seem to have confused the words "relevant" and "meaning". It has meaning. Its just completely irrelevant to the question of rights in a legal context.

    Go ask chad. I was just telling you that your "mob rules" definition of society was addlepated.
     
  19. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Mob rules? What a laugh.
     
  20. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    Chicago
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Um, he asked for an example of a legal document. You cited a document, just not a legal one. You're wrong on this one.
    I believe the phrase they used was "inherent rights."
     
  21. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    Chicago
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They're granted by social mores and values at any given moment, which are usually then put into law by elected representatives who then...you know what, do a search on the election process and read up.
    Yes. They have before, and will again.
    You mean does society always act correctly and morally? Of course, there's not a single example of amorality within any society in the history of the Earth. Not one.
     
  22. John Galt

    John Galt Member

    Aug 30, 2001
    Atlanta
    Something tells me Matt started this thread for some reason other than his head cold.

    Sudafed abused again.
     
  23. Coach_McGuirk

    Coach_McGuirk New Member

    Apr 30, 2002
    Between the Pipes
    C'mon, Matt, you know I need all the help I can get.... ;)
     
  24. Coach_McGuirk

    Coach_McGuirk New Member

    Apr 30, 2002
    Between the Pipes

    So now you tell me that lynching was neither correct nor moral?? Next I suppose you'll tell me slavery was wrong...

    This is really putting a damper on my Confederate pride... ;)
     
  25. vivzig

    vivzig New Member

    Oct 4, 2004
    The OC
    That [bolded] is patently incorrect. Every drug alters the way your brain functions.

    Don't listen to Frontline. The media are as ignorant about meth as they were about crack.
     

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