Sudafed Now Controlled?

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by MasterShake29, Apr 17, 2006.

  1. MasterShake29

    MasterShake29 Member+

    Oct 28, 2001
    Jersey City, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is it true that you have to sign a form to buy Sudafed now?
     
  2. phats_away

    phats_away Member

    Jul 28, 2001
    Atlanta, Ga
    yes
    the medicine in it can be used to make crystal meth

    limit 2 per customer
     
  3. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    Chicago
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Has been for some time now.
     
  4. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 21, 2002
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Using that logic, is there a limit on bags of fertilizer I can buy? You can make terrrr with that stuff
     
  5. MasterShake29

    MasterShake29 Member+

    Oct 28, 2001
    Jersey City, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The horror!!!

    That is rediculous.
     
  6. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    Chicago
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why is it ridiculous?
     
  7. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 21, 2002
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For real? Not at my Home Depot.
     
  8. chad

    chad Member+

    Jun 24, 1999
    chicago
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    RIDICULOUS.

    Please.
     
  9. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 21, 2002
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No, but the guys that bombed the WTC the first time came from my city and they used a fertelizer loaded van.
     
  10. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But they blew up a federal building a three-hour drive from my domicile, and I've never had to do anything to get a bag of fertilizer except pay for it.
     
  11. MasterShake29

    MasterShake29 Member+

    Oct 28, 2001
    Jersey City, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    a) Because I can't spell.

    b) In the current way America operates, it makes absolute perfect sense that the federal government can tell anyone what they can or can't buy as long as the word "safety" or "drugs" or "terrorism" comes into play.

    One could ask why if I want to buy something from someone and that they are willing to sell it to me and we agree upon terms (i.e. a price), why the government gets to say no, or yes as long as you limit your purchase and tell us about it.

    If the government said the same thing about asprin or Pepto Bismol or anything else you can think of, would everyone be ok with that?
     
  12. Coach_McGuirk

    Coach_McGuirk New Member

    Apr 30, 2002
    Between the Pipes
    Drugs are controlled in the US, even aspirin and Pepto Bismol, but you can't readily make an illegal drug with either of those 2 whereas you can with Sudafed and any other product containing psedoephidrine.

    The government regulates how much hydrocodone my doctor can prescribe me, and I'm OK with that. It's not like the Constitution guarantees us the right to "life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, and unfettered access to drugs"
     
  13. MasterShake29

    MasterShake29 Member+

    Oct 28, 2001
    Jersey City, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They should make all drugs legal and that would solve all these silly problems.
     
  14. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
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    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Libertarians are just as cute in their naivite as communists are theirs.
     
  15. Claymore

    Claymore Member

    Jul 9, 2000
    Montgomery Vlg, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, I could go for some good old REAL Coca-Cola.
     
  16. MasterShake29

    MasterShake29 Member+

    Oct 28, 2001
    Jersey City, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Give me one good reason why they should be illegal, besides the fact that they already are.
     
  17. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    They stopped selling the bottles of 100 pills about five or six years ago - I think the bottles were the #1 shoplifted item at Wal-Marts. I haven't seen the 96 pill blister packs for at least two years. the 48 pill blister packs are largest quantity available.

    In North Carolina, I think you now only buy 2 48 packs per month. You must show a Drivers' License, which is used to track purchases.

    Madness, I tell you.
     
  18. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
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    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Aside from the obvious public safety reasons?

    I'm sympathetic to the "marijuana isn't that bad" argument, but I can't think of a single good reason why crack or crystal meth or heroin should be legal.
     
  19. phats_away

    phats_away Member

    Jul 28, 2001
    Atlanta, Ga
    natural selection?
     
  20. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    Chicago
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Without sound too after school special, "because drugs like Meth/heroine/coke hurt a lot of people, and to give them unfettered access would not improve anything."
    It would take a couple generations to work.
     
  21. MasterShake29

    MasterShake29 Member+

    Oct 28, 2001
    Jersey City, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What hurts more people and thus people having unfettered access would not improve anything?

    a) Meth
    b) Heroin
    c) Coke (the drug, not the soda)
    d) Alcohol

    I don't have numbers, but I'm betting I know the answer.
     
  22. Claymore

    Claymore Member

    Jul 9, 2000
    Montgomery Vlg, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is this the old "make everything legal, then nothing will be illegal" argument?
     
  23. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And the fact that alcohol is legal, gets plenty of advertising on TV, and is easily available in almost all parts of the country while meth, heroin, and coke aren't didn't enter your mind when you were writing this post?
     
  24. Pathogen

    Pathogen Member

    Jul 19, 2004
    Like you care.
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Frontline just did a spectacular and scary documentary on Crystal Meth a couple of weeks ago. That is some of the scariest shit on the planet. Without psudophedran, there is not meth. Period. The DEA has done a good job to clamp down on the manufacturing side in the US. Interestingly enough, the problem mostly existed in the Western side of the US. Now that most of it is being made in Mexico, it's making its way through the normal distribution channels to the East. It's a nationwide problem now and shows no signs of let up.

    Crystal Meth is perhaps the nastiest drug to ever hit the street. It's virtually impossible to break the addiction of it because it literally alters the way the brain functions. If you think that shit should be legal, then you're off your rocker.
     
  25. Coach_McGuirk

    Coach_McGuirk New Member

    Apr 30, 2002
    Between the Pipes
    Go to East Texas and see which one is causing the most problems. Even with alcohol's "advantage" of being legal and advertised, meth is far and away the winner when it comes to destroying people in that part of the state. And it's not just for backwoods rednecks anymore. Some fairly prominent people (in their area) have been seduced by it and, like Pathogen said, it screws you up in the head something fierce...
     

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