suarez's headgear

Discussion in 'New York Red Bulls' started by MLS SupaStr3, Jun 29, 2005.

  1. MLS SupaStr3

    MLS SupaStr3 New Member

    Jul 2, 2003
    so now that we have suarez on the team, what color total 90 headgear thing do you think he'll wear?
  2. Calexico77

    Calexico77 Member

    Sep 19, 2003
    Mid-City LA
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They'll need to make a black and read stripey version.
  3. purojogo

    purojogo Member

    Sep 23, 2001
    US/Peru home
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wait! You mean he's getting on the field for us?
  4. DirtWorshipper

    DirtWorshipper New Member

    Jun 22, 2005
    You forgot Option 3:

  5. scaryice

    scaryice Member

    Jan 25, 2001
    It's not gay when you've had a bunch of concussions.
  6. AbercrombieAnde

    AbercrombieAnde New Member

    Apr 29, 2004
    Utica NY
    Boy I didnt see this signing comming... OH wait yes I did.......... BURNNNNNN

    Unless we want him ending up like ross paule then he has to wear it no matter how gay it is
  7. irishapple21

    irishapple21 Member

    Apr 4, 2005
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    Turks and Caicos Islands
    I saw the game where he got another concussion in the collision with his keeper. Man, that was hard to watch especially with his pregnant wife at the sidelines. I was really scared that he had snapped his neck. Never underestimate the usefulness of a Full 90 headpiece. Every player should wear one.
  8. Ray Luca

    Ray Luca BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Feb 2, 2005
    That does not prevent concussions.
  9. Ray Luca

    Ray Luca BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Feb 2, 2005
    Here are two posts on concussions one I made and one from a knowledge guy.

    First post

    "These are tests that a coach should give a player after any kind of head injury. The player saying he or she is okay is not good enough.
    Immediate past memory test - Ask them to describe what just occurred in the game before the hit. If they don't remember, they fail.

    Current thinking test - older players have them count backwards by 7s. Younger players just count backwards. If they cannot, they fail.

    Ability to retain new memories - Ask them to remember 3 random words (e.g., apple, car, Cleveland). If they cannot, they fail.

    Exercise test - If they cannot do 5 pushups without feeling
    woozy, then they are out for the game.
    Each year, several players in various
    sports die after second-impact concussions. The second-impact doesn't have to be the same day, or even the same week. Apparently, as long as the player has symptoms there is still some brain injury which needs healing. So there is a danger of making the condition worse if they get another head injury after the first.
    Watch out for nausea, dizziness, ringing in the ears, headaches, confusion, sensitivity to light, erratic behavior or there vision changes in some other way. They should see a doctor and or neurologist, maybe even a trip to emergency on a knock out injury for a catscan to check for bleeding under the skull which can kill you"

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The other post.

    "Concussions are often brushed aside in athletics as trivial and players are often encouraged to push through the symptoms. This attitude is slowly changing as concussions are becoming more fully understood, and screen/evaluation tools are becoming more widely used.

    A concussion is an alteration in mental status caused by a traumatic force to the brain which may or may not cause a loss of consciousness. The early symptoms include: headache, impaired attention, speech problems, incoordination, disorientation, memory problems (retro/antro grade amnesia), and any LOC. Later symptoms can include: dizziness, nausea, vomiting, tinnitus (ringing in the ears), sleep disturbances. Pupil reaction/size is rarely indicative of a concussion although if the pupils are different sizes this is indicative of a more serious brain injury. Second impact syndrome occurs when multiple concussions occur within a short period of time. It is caused by swelling of the brain which results in a great increase in intercranial pressure. This is the main reason that concussions must be so closely monitored.

    Early recognition/assesment of concussions is essential. Headaches are normally the most reported symptoms. What Mr. Soccer outlined is good for a quick assessment suitable for the sidelines by a non-medical personnel. I would make one change, exercise testing is the last thing done and is only done if all the other things are normal. Push-ups are okay, but sit ups are better. The goal with exercise testing is to mimic the valsalva maneuver which increases intercranial pressure. Sprints and other types of running are not used as they actually lower the ICP and will decrease the symptoms. As an ATC I use both the SAC and IMPACT tests. The SAC test is a quick test that assigns an objective value to the symptoms. This is used on the sidelines, while the IMPACT is used to determine when it is safe to return the athlete to play.

    Both tests are also used as pre-season screening tests. This will establish a baseline value which can be used to compare to the post-injury test to determine the relative severity of the concussion.

    In terms of returning to play, it is based on the symptoms. If the symptoms resolve within 15 minutes the symptoms do not return with exertional testing, and their SAC scores are within 1 point of their baseline they can return to the game. If the symptoms persist for longer than 15 minutes they are not allowed to return and are evaluate the next day. If any LOC occurs they must be cleared to participate by a doctor. Bear in mind that these are guidelines used by doctors and ATCS alike and should not be implemented by someone without medical training. Generally, if a concussion occurs and medical personnel are not immediately available it is better to error on the side of caution and require a doctors release. This is often required in the case of high school teams depending on the school's specific guidelines.
    soccer player turned Athletic Trainer after one too many ACL tears"

    Have kids that play or your a coach I would save these posts.

    Metrostars after head injuries check the player out, but never pull the player out of the game. Why? I am sure this is true with other MLS team as well.

    On those full 90 things read there disclaimer as to how well they really work.
  10. Deuteriumoxide

    May 27, 2003
    Rockville, MD
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I seem to remember Suarez getting pissed and throwing the damn things off half the time anyway.
  11. locolos

    locolos New Member

    Sep 17, 2001
    New York
    fellows, we got ourselves a steal. Now we're cooking with oil.

    This is a great signing.

  12. Milhouse

    Milhouse Member

    Dec 29, 1998
    Clifton, NJ
    It doesn't prevent anything. It is a gimmick to get the soccer moms to get them to "protect" their kids.
  13. MetroFever

    MetroFever Member+

    Jun 3, 2001
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:

    You are the winner. Rep given.
  14. Ray Luca

    Ray Luca BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Feb 2, 2005
    Ever see the television commericals for it? Two guys wear the helmet go up together I presume it was for the ball but you never see the ball. :)

    What you do see are their two helmeted heads bang into each others head. Neither one of these guys bother to use their arms and elbows to protect their space to head the ball. The commericial is historical and it is junk.
  15. Ray Luca

    Ray Luca BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Feb 2, 2005
    In a way you can't blame the soccer moms. Moms in general worry about their kids. I only remember my mom worry about cooking the food :) That was her big thing food and not me.

    Here is an interesting thing moms go to soccer coaches girl coaches and tell the coaches they don't want their daughter heading the ball. This is true.

    Amazingly most coaches say ok no problem. Then these same coaches at least one of them that I know get's a college coaching job. Guess what he is looking for? Girls who can play in the air and head the ball. Unfortunely none of the kids he coached in club could do it because he put no pressure on them to play the ball with their head. Can you even imagine that?
  16. DirtWorshipper

    DirtWorshipper New Member

    Jun 22, 2005
    Well, kids should then also wear knee-pads, cups, elbow pads and perhaps shoulders pads and football thigh pads. Why not? JUst because it's stupid and padding doesn't help anything--don't let that stop you.

    See: Aussie Rules Football or RUgby.
  17. lfcli30

    lfcli30 Member

    Jun 21, 2005
    New York
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There are a lot of fairies over here playing sport and thats unfortunate. My weekly American footie game with friends is actually more dangerous than a pro game. I understand concussions are a seious deal, but lets put it in perspective, at least he doesn't look like a bubble-wrapped hypochondriac (pointy ball players)
  18. Ray Luca

    Ray Luca BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Feb 2, 2005
    You know what helps even more then pads playing pointy for example, and will keep a player from getting hurt. You make the first shot it will break the force of his shot. Someone goes to hit you you hit him first throw your forearm into him first.

    For all you pointy experts is that true or not?
  19. fan

    fan New Member

    Jan 21, 1999

    Yes, I can imagine that. I think it depends on age. I read some recommendation from some body saying that U10s shouldn't head the ball regularly. I'm not sure there's that much to be gained from teaching diving headers to 9-year olds anyway, so it's OK with me. Seems more useful to teach ball at the feet skills.
  20. JBigjake

    JBigjake Member+

    Nov 16, 2003
    too many concussions from heading the ball without the headgear:
  21. Ray Luca

    Ray Luca BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Feb 2, 2005
    You should be able to play the ball with every part of the body. Not ever part but one.
  22. Ray Luca

    Ray Luca BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Feb 2, 2005
    I think I know this guy he is a butcher isn't he?
  23. hannah8

    hannah8 Member

    Aug 19, 2002
    Looking forward to the Ryan Suarez/Full 90 Paper Hat Day promo 8/21 (vs Chivas USA)


  24. hannah8

    hannah8 Member

    Aug 19, 2002


    Is that a special ticket section?


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