Suarez to Uruguay (kinda)

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by BuffloSoldier, Aug 3, 2002.

  1. BuffloSoldier

    BuffloSoldier BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 31, 2000
    Northern NJ

    On deciding to choose between the US and Uruguay, if the situation arises:
    One could say Bruce is on the clock, but I don't believe Uruguay has any opportunties to actually cap Suarez until the Copa America in summer '04.

    Edited to say, moved from the Burn board to N&A, where it makes more sense.
  2. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    Is this a bargaining chip? Sort of like Michael Ricketts talking about playing for the US.
  3. DigitalTron

    DigitalTron New Member

    Apr 4, 2001
    Arlington, VA
    I suspect that Bruce will call him in. It's open tryouts for young, tall, fast, strong defenders, and he fits the bill. How he does may determine whether he's capped for the US or not. I think he has a chance to play for the USMNT, but it's no guarantee. Certainly making that squad would be very beneficial given our international exposure following our last World Cup. But, Uruguay has quite a history and reputation worldwide as well, so it's no given that he'd choose the US, but it sure sounds like he would if given the choice.

  4. Jose L. Couso

    Jose L. Couso New Member

    Jul 31, 2000
    Arlington, VA
    Suarez can play.

    I hope Bruce Arena calls him up, for an official game, and ends all the speculation.
  5. Texan

    Texan New Member

    Jan 8, 2001
    I want players desperate to play for the US on the USMNT, not players who are merely desperate to play international soccer. If he choose Uruguay, so be it.
  6. braun

    braun Red Card

    Feb 22, 2001
    metro Boston
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    immigrant players

    Maybe in 10 years this attitude may make sense, but the US is very much an infant in international
    soccer and immigrants will be choosing between their mother country and the US for some time!
  7. soccergamer

    soccergamer New Member

    Jan 8, 2002
    New York
    What do you expect, do you think ryan is just going to sit there and rot while bruno continually selects a clearly washed up agoof and karate chopping heydude for the nats.

    He isn't getting any younger, if bruno is too slow to see his talent then tough crap.
  8. Davids26

    Davids26 Member

    May 31, 2000
    Guys I am sure Suarez will get a call up. Remember what Bruce did in 98? Called up a lot of guys. A ton of guys.

    Yesterday was the last time Agoos will ever wear the national team stripe, he knows he needs new young blood. Bruce isn't as stupid as most think.

    He did coach us to the final eight of the World Cup after all.
  9. The Wanderer

    The Wanderer New Member

    Sep 3, 1999
    As long as Arena doesn't have his head up his arse then Suarez will be playing for us. I wouldn't worry about it too much.
  10. L127

    L127 New Member

    Oct 9, 1999
    Sounds like an allexpense paid trip to Uru to play some ball and see some relatives. Maybe play the Uruguayan FA a little bit. I think he has a real good shot at the Nats and he knows it.
  11. The Wanderer

    The Wanderer New Member

    Sep 3, 1999
    The fact remains that he has a much better chance of actually making it to the World Cup with us Yanks than he does with Uruguay. Uruguay slipped in this time after a playoff with Australia. Next time they might not be so lucky.

    Personally I've met Suarez(at the Dallas watching party of USA vs. Portugal), and I pointed up to the screen and said,"Is that going to be you out there in 2006?" He said, "God willing." In my mind it's just a formality that he wants and will play for us. I'd be using the Uruguayan federation also for an all expense paid to Uruguay in the off-season.:) The friendlies also won't cap tie him to us if he ends up playing for either team. Only FIFA sanctioned events cap tie him to a particular team.
  12. nowhere

    nowhere New Member

    Jul 2, 2002
    Doesn't it feel good though, that another country, a soccer country, wants a player that we could've capped, but haven't yet.
  13. Go2NY

    Go2NY New Member

    Feb 19, 2000
    Croton-on-Hudson NY
    don't get excited

    don't get excited yet

    agoos will probably announce his retirement from international soccer - the entire world knows he made the 'donkey' team, actually three times - the other donkeys made it only once.

    suarez has to step up and play a whole lever higher and quicker befoire he's serious nat meat.

    not everyone can 'step-up' like sanneh, o'brien, donovan and beasley.

    in 2006 those guys will have to be the standard others have to come up to, and better - teams like germany and italy will be lurking and angry

    in 2006 they all know we're coming and they'll be wide awake - and we better be too...
  14. The Wanderer

    The Wanderer New Member

    Sep 3, 1999
    Re: don't get excited

    Fixed your post.

    Suarez can run step for step with Jeff Cunningham and has good touch and ball skill. Mental decision making is his only weakness and he has improved greatly in that area the past season and a half. I'd put money on him making the 2006 WC squad unless he's hurt or gets hurt.
  15. TeamUSA

    TeamUSA Member

    Nov 24, 1999
    Tianjin, China
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I do share the opinion of Texan. I to want players who want to play for the USA, not guys that want to play international football.......looking in your direction David Regis.

    But also glad to read from The Wanderer that he shows possibly a bit more interest in playing than his statements about going to Uruguay.

    From the interview with Bruce Arena before the All Star match he did mention Suarez as a potential call up. As to why some are getting excited about Bruce not calling him in, look at what just took place. A World Cup, a training camp after those players selected for the squad with no new callups, and after the World Cup there hasn't been any FIFA sanctioned friendlies for him to be called up. Relax, the Boss isn't stupid and Suarez will get a look. I do hope that he really wants to play for the United States of America.
  16. Preston North End

    Feb 17, 2000
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Arena was also quoted prior to the World Cup about bringing Suarez into a camp. Arena has also been quoted that the WC is for "younger" players.

    The race is on...when will Suarez get his first official cap (He could be capped by both URU/USA prior to these dates below)?

    1. With the US at the 2003 Confed Cup?
    2. With the US at the 2003 Gold Cup?


    3. With Uruguay at the 2004 Copa America (although, I read somewhere the CONMEBOL 2006 WCQ might start in early 2004).

    Is he talented enough to get at least a few appearances for the US? I would think so. He's an MLS All-Star this year and he played well enough last season to catch Arena's eye.

    Oh, yeah, a half-way decent Uruguay side want to look at him too.
  17. Topo

    Topo Member

    Feb 15, 2001
    Arena has shared the wealth and given so many players a look, that I suspect he will have Suarez in for a look (and probably a cap in an official game to cap-tie him).

    The guy is good. In his second year he made the all-star team on merits, not name recognition among fans, because he's having a great season.

    Give the guy a cap and see if he fits the system and the international game. He's a big guy (maybe 6'2"?).

    I met him on Thursday at an event surrounding the all-star game. He was eager to try to show Bruce some stuff. Unfortunately, he was subbed off early, even before the rain/hail, so I guess he was hurting.

    Still, I'd love to see the guy get a look. And what he said is that his heart is with the US. Well, it looks like we're his first choice.
  18. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm pulling for Suarez. He should do fine on the bigger stage because he has size,strength surprising speed for a big player,decent foot skill and a lot of heart. Sometimes too much heart but he would be an instant enforcer if someone starts chopping on Beasley or Donovan.
  19. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    Put yourself in Suarez' position. The USA will qualify every World Cup.Uruguay will struggle to get in every time. The USA made the last 8, will try to go farther,Uruguay has no realistic chance to go that far. If Suarez has any brains he won't commit to Uruguay unless it is clear that he will never be called for the USA. To top it off, he is in the USA now. I would guess he is not dying to move back to Uruguay.
  20. Davids26

    Davids26 Member

    May 31, 2000
    Bruce has it right, Suarez will play for the US if he gets the chance. I think Suarez's situation is a lot different than Regis', for those who compared the two. Suarez has roots to Uruguay, the only thing Regis had was an American wife.
  21. Rocket

    Rocket Member

    Aug 29, 1999
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why would Ryan need to move back to Uruguay?
  22. Autogolazo

    Autogolazo BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 19, 2000
    Bombay Beach, CA
    I thought I read that CONMEBOL qualifiers would start earlier than ever--in fall 2003.

    Suarez and Ziadie are in the same boat--young, talented MLS defenders who can choose between two countries (Jamaica in Ziadie's case).
  23. Treetaliano

    Treetaliano Member

    Jun 29, 2002
    San Diego
    This is incorrect. And I have been seeing this alot on BS boards, lately in cases such as Suarez, Dema, Ziadie and others. It's just wrong.

    I did some looking into it before making this post, so if it is wrong then FIFA is to blame.

    First the link:

    In the Regulations Governing the Applications the Statutes Section 8 Article 12 it states clearly that once a player has played in an official competetion AT ANY LEVEL, the player cannot appear for another nation.

    In the same document an official competetion is defined as any U-17, Youth or senior competition either at the international or the confederation level as well as ANY FIFA "A" match (aka friendly).

    By many of the posts I've read, the following could happen:

    Mike Petke, who has one cap in a friendly, could marry a New Zealand woman, thus becoming a legal resident of NZ, could appear for NZ in WC '06 Qualifiers for the Kiwis. It's not possible.

    If Saurez plays in the next US friendly, Urugauy is out of luck, and vice versa.
  24. BuffloSoldier

    BuffloSoldier BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 31, 2000
    Northern NJ
    Tree, that's incorrect. Players can suit up for Nation A in a friendly, then play for Nation B in a tournament.

    Newest US example of this is Jeff Cunningham, who played for Jamaica in two friendlies--one against the US even--then played for the US, who officially capped him in the 2002 Gold Cup.

    Yes, Mike Petke right now is non cap-tied to the USA.

    Friendlies are not official FIFA competitions.
  25. odg78

    odg78 Member

    Feb 14, 2001
    North Carolina

    OH MY GOD!!! We have to cap him now!

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