Strike-rates in Brazil vs Strike-rates in Europe

Discussion in 'The Beautiful Game' started by reelmaad, Apr 27, 2009.

  1. reelmaad

    reelmaad New Member

    Oct 22, 2004
    People are always talking about how easy it is to score Brazil, but it ain't really easier than anywhere else, at least not where its most recent celebrated exports are concerned.


    The top guys strike-rate in Brazil vs their strike-rate in Europe, is not all that different.

    Their strike-rate in brazil vs Their strike-rate everywhere else
    Code:
    Pato *********Brazil  14/28 = 0.5              Others :  40/81 = 0.49
    Robinho*******Brazil   58/135  = 0.42          Others :  49/169 = 0.28
    Ronaldinho*****Brazil    15/44 =  0.34           Others :  100/295 =   0.33   
    Kaká*********Brazil     30/75 =  0.4            Others :  94/258  =  0.36   
    Adriano*******Brazil     29/74 =  0.39           Others :  100/231 = 0.43       
    Ronaldo********Brazil    45/49 =  0.91    Others [pre-injury]:151/181=0.83

    Arguably the best striker in Brazil over the last two years is Keirrison and his strike-rate is not above europe's top guns.
    Keirrison ***** Brazil total: 84/143 = 0.58
    This season: paulista = 13/16 = 0.81
     
  2. reelmaad

    reelmaad New Member

    Oct 22, 2004
    People talking about Romario becoming topscorer at 40.....they forget they are talking about a guy with a:
    0.79 career strike-rate, a 0.62 CL strike-rate, and 0.79 Intl strike-rate

    Furthermore 22 goals in 31 games is not that great a strike rate for a league topscorer

    Romario's
    Brazil Vasco da Gama*******0.79
    Netherlands PSV Eindhove****0.98
    Spain FC Barcelona *********0.63
    Brazil Flamengo*************0.85
    Spain Valencia CF***********0.67
    Brazil Fluminense************0.62
     
  3. Big Soccer Member

    Jan 16, 2008
    Surrey, England
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    You could argue that the above players left Brazil when they were young, and that their strike rates were similar in Europe due to them improving as a player.

    Also, you could argue that their teammates in Europe are better, and create better chances for them.

    Just saying.
     
  4. Fried

    Fried New Member

    Mar 28, 2009
    Kridjijimbé
    Club:
    Gremio Porto Alegre
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
  5. uamiranda

    uamiranda Member

    Jun 18, 2008
    Club:
    Vitoria Salvador
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    That was the most apropriate word you used... BTW, IMO, although they play in a "more competitive" continent, I think they improve as well as if they did at home country...To give you few examples: do you think Lucas, Anderson, Elano or even Robinho and Diego improved their quality that much after they moved? I know...that's a question for another thread... :)

    Yes...And likewise, if their teammates are better, also their opponents are better as well...and the question remains the same...

    But I'm just saying...;)
     
  6. Teso Dos Bichos

    Teso Dos Bichos Red Card

    Sep 2, 2004
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    Not really because all of the listed players joined the top bracket of European sides while in Europe so their team is not only better than what they had in Brazil but also better than the vast majority of their opponents in Europe.
     
  7. reelmaad

    reelmaad New Member

    Oct 22, 2004
  8. reelmaad

    reelmaad New Member

    Oct 22, 2004
    A lot of their teammates in Europe are Brazilians;)
     
  9. Fried

    Fried New Member

    Mar 28, 2009
    Kridjijimbé
    Club:
    Gremio Porto Alegre
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I don't guess (won't write any word after a 'because', to keep in a draw).
     
  10. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Most of the players listed were also in the top bracket of Brazilian sides, so their team was also better than the majority of their opponents in Brazil.

    Of course, it could be argued that the Brazilian league is more competitive and has less disparity from top to bottom, but that argument cuts both ways. And don't forget that the Brazilian stats include the regional tournaments, in which there is more disparity.
     
  11. Fried

    Fried New Member

    Mar 28, 2009
    Kridjijimbé
    Club:
    Gremio Porto Alegre
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    So it's your idea and ratios, nutritional food for thought. ;)
    Glad of doing, thank you. :)

    Have seen a comment before which makes me think of a similar parity for another country. :rolleyes:
     

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