OK, back from the Tournament. Season's over now, so just some final questions. Some may sound stupid, but it's because I'm tired and don't feel like looking for my rulebook. 1. It occurred to me that if a handball outside the box is an IFK, why is it a PK in the box? 2. Is a goalkeeper sitting down during a rout USB? I think it's unsportsmanlike, but calling it and issuing a restart seems ridiculous. Others have told me just to tell him to get up, but that doesn't seem like enough. 3. Am I required to let everybody know that yes, I made a call? Lemme illustrate: Team A is running onto Team B's goal. Team A passes forward, and player from A puts ball in net. I blow whistle for offsides infraction. The timing of the whistle must have been coincidental, because Team A runs back, thinking they've scored. Team B sets up for the kick (not a quick kick) and goes with it. Halfway down the field, Team A figures it out and begins to challenge. Too late. B has made it down the field and scored a legitimate goal, which I allow. Note that A is winning in a blowout, so it had no effect on the standings. Prof
Reread law 12-the last of the listed offenses for which a direct free kick is awarded [/B][/QUOTE] 2. Is a goalkeeper sitting down during a rout USB? I think it's unsportsmanlike, but calling it and issuing a restart seems ridiculous. Others have told me just to tell him to get up, but that doesn't seem like enough.[/B][/QUOTE] Depends on the age/intensity level involved as to how I would deal with it. At a younger level Id suggest to him that he stand up or at a stoppage of play suggest to his coach that his keeper is acting is what could be construed as unsportsmanlike. To be honest I really dont have a problem with a keeper doing this as he only penalizes himself. So I would certainly allow it at an older/higher level. [/B][/QUOTE] 3. Am I required to let everybody know that yes, I made a call? Lemme illustrate: Team A is running onto Team B's goal. Team A passes forward, and player from A puts ball in net. I blow whistle for offsides infraction. The timing of the whistle must have been coincidental, because Team A runs back, thinking they've scored. Team B sets up for the kick (not a quick kick) and goes with it. Halfway down the field, Team A figures it out and begins to challenge. Too late. B has made it down the field and scored a legitimate goal, which I allow. Note that A is winning in a blowout, so it had no effect on the standings. Prof [/B][/QUOTE] On this one to the best of my knowledge you are not required to indicate what call you have made-though on an offside you would have to be indicating an IFK which would help players figure it out. In terms of game management I would help sell/avoid this issue by loudly announcing offsides or no goal directly after the whistle.
No additional comment on the DFK handball and goalkeeper on the ground. However, you need to sell your calls a little. As soon as you decide that you need to call offside, you need to blow your whistle, put your hand in the air to signal an indirect kick restart and move toward the position of the restart. You shouldn't be letting the ball get to midfield for a kickoff.
However, the ball wasn't. I whistled, but Team A misconstrued my whistle as goal. Team B saw my arm in the air for offside. Team A didn't even look. Which is my point. One team wasn't paying attention, and they got nailed. Was I wrong not to stop the restart because one team didn't care? Prof
Back when I was young and stupid (no cracks about "old and stupid" are necessary ), I issued a second caution to a 'keeper for this. Not one of my stellar moments.
If team A scored, and team b saw your arm in the air. Isn't team b going to restart with an ifk? Team A will figure it out after the restart? If you've changed the teams in mid-problem, then nevermind.
Its Sunday nite and we're all groggy. I believe the situation is that PZ whistled for offside fairly contemporaneously with Team A apparently scoring a goal. Whe the A team went high-fivin' back up across the midline the B team took the correct IFK restart and charged up the field and by the time Team A realized that they were fivin' too high Team B was past them and scored. Prof's question was whether or not he had a duty to correct team A's misconception that they had scored whe Team B knew that it was an IFK restart and played correctly. My answer is "No!" Assuming Prof blew the whistle, moved to the point of the restart and raised his hand in the IFK signal then Team A has no right to expect the ref to disabuse them of their easily identified screwup if Team B is acting properly. Jim
Do most of you blow the whistle to indicate a goal has been scored (unless of course the ball went only slightly over the line and was then brought back into play)? I would think that the whistle itself would have prompted the offside team to know that there was something wrong with their attempt at goal. Scott
I don't know if sitting down is unsportsman like, but I had a match in which the opposing keeper started doing an individual workout, ie shuttles around the box, push ups etc. when the match was one sided! Next year we went up to their place and beat them 1-0! ( D3 womens) I talked to the opposing coach about her goalie's actions, but the ref wasn't interested in doing anything about it.
Right, but the offside team was really arrogant to begin with. They probably thought I was signaling for a goal. I usually don't have to whistle for a goal. Prof
Scott's comment is what I was thinking as I read this... If you whistle for goals (which you're not supposed to do, but some referees do), then this is the reason that you need to stop. The only reason to whistle for a goal is when it's in and out and you need to whistle to stop play. As far as a responsibility to hold up the restart because the "scoring" team is celebrating, not, I don't think you need to do this. But as someone else mentioned, you might "sell" the call a little better to make it clear to everyone -- after whistling, waive your arms like a football referee would when a field goal isn't good stating clearly, "no goal, offside". Then put your arm up and move up the field. You don't need to be theatric about it or anything like that, but it would help to be clear.
I You are scaring me here I assume you know that as a penal foul it is ALWAYS a DFK. However in some mini soccer all fouls are treated as INDFK. with no penalty kicks allowed I NO USB unless taunting is involved. The coach should be having his or her keeper far out as a rover and used for dropping the ball back. As a coach I can quarantee no player on our team would be permitted to do such a thing. As a referee it is NOT your concern unless the other team is so agitated by it that you could ask the coach to please modify the behaviour as you could be forced to consider it as USB. Coach will have the keeper up very quickly. I In truth NO you do not have to spell it out but preventing confusion and animosity in certain things it does no harm and much good. With a goal clearly scored I do not blow the whistle. If there is a goal scored with an offside the AR with flag raised or my call alone . I simply roar "NO GOAL OFFSIDE!" (I can yell louder than most whistles anyway ;o) and indicate where and raise my arm indicating the INDFK. I see no need for a whistle as everyone knows play is stopped however if confusion was apparant I might blow to gain the attention if say the ball is being pulled out of the net for a kickoff restart by the celebrating team eagar to get at it.