Stott Sucks...

Discussion in 'MLS: General' started by cliffkram, Oct 26, 2004.

  1. cliffkram

    cliffkram Member

    May 4, 2003
    Brum via NYC
    http://www.northjersey.com/page.php...lRUV5eTY2MDM3MzImeXJpcnk3ZjcxN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXk2

    Is it just me or does it seem that this guy has been mentioned since the start of the season regarding his inability properly call a match??
     
  2. NattyBo

    NattyBo Member+

    Apr 30, 2004
    Nunya
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
  3. mannellaice

    mannellaice New Member

    May 8, 2001
    KC, MO
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here's a better question. Try to name one ref that DOESN'T suck. I could name many who are just as bad as Stott, if not worse. Alex Prus, Kevin Terry, the list goes on. Complaining about one ref won't get you anywhere, it's a problem throughout the league and the rest of the world.
     
  4. CUS

    CUS New Member

    Apr 20, 2000
    Kevin Terry does not suck.
























    He swallows.
     
  5. voodoodiver

    voodoodiver Member

    Jun 21, 2002
    FLL
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Don't forget Okulaja, another amazing waste of cytoplasm.
     
  6. metro24freak

    metro24freak New Member

    Jul 5, 2004
    philly
    OK lets just settle this now, all the MLS refs suck, they don't know the rules, kinda hard to ref a game if you don't know what's going on. I'm not a huge Stott fan right now because I think Earnie Stewart was offsides on that goal he scored, no real sense in whining about it now since it's not gonna change but he looked offsides to me, he must have been Johnny Walker wouldn't have gone to the half to argue it if he wasn't. Either way all the refs suck and should be fired and replaced by people who know what they're doing.
     
  7. CUS

    CUS New Member

    Apr 20, 2000
    Hey propes. Thanks for the neg rep. Always appreciated :rolleyes:
     
  8. metro24freak

    metro24freak New Member

    Jul 5, 2004
    philly
    he gave it to me too, maybe he's an MLS ref.
     
  9. Elninho

    Elninho Member+

    Sacramento Republic FC
    United States
    Oct 30, 2000
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    To be fair, fans of every league think their refs are the worst in the world.
     
  10. metro24freak

    metro24freak New Member

    Jul 5, 2004
    philly
    Yeah but refs in other leagues actually call stuff that actually happens and don't let games get out of control by not calling anything the first 60 minutes of a game so the players go on and do whatever they want and then all of a sudden they can't do it anymore and then they get frustrated and mad and start yelling and get yellow carded.
     
  11. hackattack

    hackattack New Member

    Jan 26, 2004
    U.S.
    There are two kinds of refs: bad ones and horrible ones.
     
  12. mutinywxgirl

    mutinywxgirl Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 6, 1999
    St. Petersburg, FL
    And just how long have you had YOUR FIFA badge? I'd like to see any of you go out there and do a better job.
     
  13. Hugh DeMann

    Hugh DeMann New Member

    Dec 20, 2001
    Is it possible that soccer is just an incredibly difficult sport to referee? How can one ref possibly watch 22 players?
     
  14. metro24freak

    metro24freak New Member

    Jul 5, 2004
    philly
    We all know that reffing isn't easy and that they can't call everything and can't watch all 22 players at once, but the refs in MLS are just horrible, it looks like they call stuff that doesn't happen sometimes. I don't expect the ref to watch all 22 players but he should be watching the one with the ball and the people around him. The refs in MLS let the players get away with anything in the first half but in the second half make all these outrageous calls that wouldn't have been made if they happened in the first half and they take too much sh!t from the players.

    Soccer (or any sport for that matter) isn't easy to ref but the refs in MLS are horrible, if you watch any other game the ref isn't nearly as bad as MLS refs, of course there are a few exceptions.
     
  15. hackattack

    hackattack New Member

    Jan 26, 2004
    U.S.
    Im not saying I could do a better job, though I could. Stott IS the one with the FIFA badge, and he needs to back it up game in and game out. You don't need to run as much as the players to be effective, just make the right calls. Should a FIFA referee be charging into the penalty box (getting dangerously close to being inlolved in the play) to be able to make a call? No. But watch Stott do it every game he refs. Just cause you have a badge doesn't mean you're immune to critisicm.
     
  16. mannellaice

    mannellaice New Member

    May 8, 2001
    KC, MO
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ONE ref doesn't watch 22 players. THREE refs watch 22 players.
     
  17. CUS

    CUS New Member

    Apr 20, 2000
    But only ONE REF is tasked to make the calls. The assistants on the side 'assist' in calling the ball out (can still be overruled by the center) and offside (but the center makes the final judgement on that) and may also assist in various other infractions sparsely during the game.
     
  18. rocketeer22

    rocketeer22 Member+

    Apr 11, 2000
    Oakton,VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    After Saturday's game, from MLSnet.com:

    Misconduct Summary:
    MET -- Gilberto Flores (caution; Pushing, Holding) 6
    MET -- Amado Guevara (caution; Reckless Foul) 18
    DC -- Ben Olsen (caution; Reckless Foul) 27
    DC -- Bryan Namoff (caution; Reckless Foul) 35
    DC -- Dema Kovalenko (caution; Diving, Exaggeration) 41
    MET -- Ricardo Clark (caution; Reckless Foul) 46+
    DC -- Ryan Nelsen (caution; Reckless Foul) 61
    DC -- Freddy Adu (caution; Reckless Foul) 86
    MET -- Eddie Pope (caution; Tackle from Behind) 88

    I bet fans on both sides would argue the other way this time, because fouls were definitely being called in the first half.
     
  19. mutinywxgirl

    mutinywxgirl Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 6, 1999
    St. Petersburg, FL
    And just out of curiosity, if Stott sucks so much, how has he been named to the Finalist of Referee of the Year now for the 3rd consecutive time? And, I think he has a very good chance of winning it this year.
     
  20. NattyBo

    NattyBo Member+

    Apr 30, 2004
    Nunya
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    they gotta put somebody up for the blasted thing
     
  21. IASocFan

    IASocFan Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2000
    IOWA
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's not surprising that the posters who actually ref and frequent the referee forum are a lot less critical than the average poster. I have refereed for 20+ years. I'm not as young or fast as I used to be, but I'm a better referee. I know that 80% of the time the CR has the best view of most foul situations. The other 20%, an AR may have a good view and sometimes none of the three have a great view. Having a 4th gives the reffing crew a view similar to the benches - which is sometimes useful.

    Anyway, in any foul situation there are lots of angles to view the situation, and sometimes the crowd or TV get a considerably different view than the CR. I sometimes wonder what the CR saw when he makes calls I disagree with, but I assume he made the call based on a completely different angle.
     
  22. hackattack

    hackattack New Member

    Jan 26, 2004
    U.S.
    It just means that the people nominating the refs for ref of the year have no clue too.
     
  23. mutinywxgirl

    mutinywxgirl Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 6, 1999
    St. Petersburg, FL
    Hack - I'll be sure to tell some of my media friends this information, as I'm sure they'll appreciate hearing it.

    Please, get a clue!
     
  24. hackattack

    hackattack New Member

    Jan 26, 2004
    U.S.
    Tell them, it will be good for them to hear. In fareness to them (media) though, they're options for nominees range from bad to horrible. Don't take it personally, just not many good refs out there.
     
  25. IASocFan

    IASocFan Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2000
    IOWA
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    It sounds like you know a lot. Maybe you could help the situation by getting a badge! :)
     

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