Steven Goff on the Draft

Discussion in 'D.C. United' started by Lowecifer, Jan 16, 2003.

  1. Lowecifer

    Lowecifer Member+

    Jan 11, 2000
    Baltimore, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    D.C.: 1 Eye on Draft, Other on the Future

    Apparently Dallas had considered offering Joselito Vaca for the top draft pick, as well as some other teams.

    Ray thinks two guys in the draft could start immediately: 1. Alecko and 2. Mysteriously refused to name...

    :D

    Thank you again Steven Goff, for all the great articles.
     
  2. GersMan

    GersMan Member

    May 11, 2000
    Indianapolis
    Mystery man must be who he would like to take at #5.

    If he trades #1, he may be hoping to get Jacqua.

    This is getting crazy.
     
  3. dsheon

    dsheon New Member

    Jun 12, 2000
    I like the idea of taking Eskie and then dishing all but one of the other picks to the Scum for their second pick; then taking Clark; then using a late round pick for a keeper. Obviously time will tell which players pan out but that would seem to be a great way to go.
     
  4. Detective40oz

    Detective40oz Member

    Jun 16, 2000
    Fairfax, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Keeping fingers crossed hoping we get Ricardo Clark
     
  5. Th4119

    Th4119 Member+

    Jul 26, 2001
    Annandale, VA
    I don't know what to think of all this. I just want Clark on our team.

    Kevin hit me up with a PM about WOF.
     
  6. greatscott

    greatscott Member+

    Dec 21, 2002
    Richmond
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Esky and Clark together... can u say dream team..
     
  7. JAnderson14

    JAnderson14 New Member

    Oct 5, 2000
    Crofton, MD
    I really hope Hudson is just blowing smoke about Eskandarian being good enough to start. I can deal with drafting him but starting him? Over Quaranta?

    If Dallas did really offer Vaca, I'm guessing Hudson turned it down because he won't fit in our formation. He's not going to displace Ben Olsen on the right and we wouldn't be able to have Etcheverry on the bench for max salary. If we got an offer of, say, Richard Mulrooney, I would say take that immediately.
     
  8. Th4119

    Th4119 Member+

    Jul 26, 2001
    Annandale, VA
    But the best news possibly of the whole article...

     
  9. ursula

    ursula Member

    Feb 21, 1999
    Republic of Cascadia
    I'd take Esky and Clark also at 1 and 2 and trade 5 and 11 and 14.

    If we do get Clark than it really seems like we have too many defenders: Nellie, Petke, Prideaux, Reyes, and Ivanov are all starters. It just looks like a trade is in the offing.
     
  10. Jacen McCullough

    Nov 23, 1998
    Maryland
    Not necessarily. IF that move was made, and those 2 players were drafted, I'd expect this kind of lineup:

    Rimando

    Petke Nelson Ivanov

    Clark Etcheverry

    Reyes Convey Olsen

    Stewart Quaranta


    Prideaux is a heckuva player to have on the bench, but if last season taught MLS teams anything, it's that you can never have enough good defenders on your roster. Also, with the tempers of some of your defenders, a good backup is a must. Between Petke, Clark and Reyes, I don't see any MLS attackers going down your right side willingly. IF that trade went through.
     
  11. ursula

    ursula Member

    Feb 21, 1999
    Republic of Cascadia
    Jacen- I like that lineup a lot. Thanks for seeing it.

    Oh- and you guys should have gotten an allocation for Tab.
     
  12. Jacen McCullough

    Nov 23, 1998
    Maryland
    :) Thanks. I've calmed down about it since it happened, but that week that Colorado got one for cutting Pibe, I was on a pissed off crusade! As for the lineup, the starting group is strong. The striker pool is VERY deep (Eskandarian, Stoichkov and Curtis off the bench) and the defense is reasonably deep (Prideaux). The midfield could use some work. Namoff and the Peruvian (blanking on the name) are A-League. Kovalenko should also have been put next to Etch with Clark starting on the bench (forgot about Dema). DC desperately needs another quality left footed midfield player to round out their bench though.
     
  13. DCU

    DCU Member+

    Feb 15, 1999
    Bay Area, CA
    Hmmm, perhaps a defender for Brian West or Eric Quill?

    If all that went down...
    Dark Helmet: "I see your schwartz is as big as mine Hudsper."
     
  14. gocaps

    gocaps Member

    Sep 23, 2000
    With the SEs in 134
    Eric Quill? OK, Valderrama makes all his wingers look pretty good. Chung and Henderson are the real deal - they were good without him. Quill wasn't. He's terrible and has a major attitude problem to match. DCU, I hope this is idle speculation on your part and not based on any specific information!
     
  15. GrillMaster

    GrillMaster Member

    Aug 31, 2000
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No way, Jose! Neither has the heart of a warrior, which is a prerequisite (thank God) for the 2003 DC United.

    What does Dallas want for Martinez?

    GM
     
  16. Serie Zed

    Serie Zed Member

    Jul 14, 2000
    Arlington
    #s 5 & 11 for #2 is a good trade (for both teams IMHO) if there's a player we want. Keep 14 for a backup GK.
     
  17. JoeW

    JoeW New Member

    Apr 19, 2001
    Northern Virginia, USA
    Au Contrarie! Assume that Nelsen, Kovalenko and Clark and 3 guys fighting (and splitting) 2 positions--holding mid and D-mid.

    Then look at Petke, Reyes, Ivanov and Prideaux on the backline. Remember that Ivanov will likely miss some games for Euro qualifications, Nelsen misses a chunck for Confed Cup, Clark may may some games b/c of U-20 duties. I actually think we're a bit thin on the back line.
     
  18. Atouk

    Atouk BigSoccer Supporter

    DC United
    Apr 16, 2001
    Arlington, VA
    Club:
    Queens Park Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You've gotta love Hudson's ability to overstate things: "But even if the MetroStars came along and offered us [star forward] Clint Mathis, I don't know if we would do it."

    Although he hasn't been in the squad for their first three qualifiers, so maybe not.
     
  19. Sundevil9

    Sundevil9 Member

    Nov 23, 1999
    Reston, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    United also picks #31,41,51,59

    These seem to be a place to pick up a backup keeper. Package the three non-#1's for a shot at the second player that they feel can play now. And take flyers with the remaining late round picks.
     
  20. ursula

    ursula Member

    Feb 21, 1999
    Republic of Cascadia
    I would do it if the standard starting lineup then looked like:

    ---------Rimando
    Petke-----Nelsen---Ivanov
    ------------Clark
    Reyes--Etch/Dema---Olsen
    ----------Convey
    --Stewart----Quaranta/Escandarian

    We could then have the flexibility to make due when guys leave:

    -Prideaux can step in when Nelsen's gone- just move Ivanov to the middle.
    -When Ivanov is gone, Prideaux just slides into his spot.
    -When Clark's gone, move Nelsen into his spot, slide Ivanov to the middle and start Prideaux again on the left.
    -The Etch/dema combo can cover for Convey when he's gone.
    -Likewise, Alecko starts when Q1 is gone.

    To me this is a slam dunk. Thus it won't happen.
     
  21. Red&Black

    Red&Black Member+

    Aug 30, 2001
    Lot 8
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Burkina Faso
    with the bulgarian guy could we move petke for a pick to get clark or get another dmid?

    also, what does petke make?

    is clark good enough to play a lot right away?

    are there any keepers in the draft good enough to play if nicky got hurt?
     
  22. ignatz

    ignatz New Member

    Jun 3, 2001
    Washington, DC


    I'd be inclined not to draft a keeper, and pick a more experienced one up afterwards. There are a number of them in the A-League. Because of our national depth at the position, they don't command that much money for their experience. Unless we're deliberately grooming a young guy for the future (i.e., a DJ Countess), I'd rather have experience coming off the bench if Nick gets hurt.
     
  23. Sundevil9

    Sundevil9 Member

    Nov 23, 1999
    Reston, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But don't you need to draft A-League keepers? Unless you want to burn a discovery pick on one, I think that's the only way to get one other than finding one on waivers.
     
  24. ignatz

    ignatz New Member

    Jun 3, 2001
    Washington, DC
    You've got me there. Maybe my idea isn't such a bright one after all, but I'd stick with my other point: an experienced back-up is better than a rookie, unless the rookie is a potential future star that you anticipate keeping around for awhile.
     
  25. Atouk

    Atouk BigSoccer Supporter

    DC United
    Apr 16, 2001
    Arlington, VA
    Club:
    Queens Park Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

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