Steven Gerrard MBE

Discussion in 'Premier League: News and Analysis' started by mshankb, Jan 3, 2007.

  1. mshankb

    mshankb Member

    Nov 15, 2004
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I know this is old news but... WHAT?
     
  2. mshankb

    mshankb Member

    Nov 15, 2004
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Myriad suggestions as to why Mr Gerrard MBE received the honour then..
     
  3. 655321

    655321 New Member

    Jul 21, 2002
    The Mission, SF
    Didn't all of the players involved in Istanbul receive one? Is that what you're referring to?
     
  4. Colm

    Colm Member

    Aug 17, 2004
    UK
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    If Barry Ferguson can get one then loads of players should.
     
  5. mis-e-one

    mis-e-one New Member

    Aug 23, 2004
    Bedfordshire
    Doesn't really make sense since he's not at the end of his career. And he hasn't even won the league yet.
     
  6. Mikey10

    Mikey10 Member

    Sep 20, 2003
    Netherlands
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    If a drunken twat like Alex Fergiscum can get knighted, then Gerrard can have an MBE.
     
  7. mshankb

    mshankb Member

    Nov 15, 2004
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Yeah cos their levels of success are in any way comparable...
     
  8. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    He got the award mainly for his charity work.
     
  9. Bluto11

    Bluto11 The sky is falling!

    May 16, 2003
    Chicago, IL
    they had those things out like candy
     
  10. PsychedelicCeltic

    PsychedelicCeltic New Member

    Dec 10, 2003
    San Francisco/London
    The honours system is crap. Clive Woodward is knighted, Gareth Edwards isn't cos he's Welsh.
     
  11. Matt Clark

    Matt Clark Member

    Dec 19, 1999
    Liverpool
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Well if Paul Collingwood can have one ...
     
  12. mshankb

    mshankb Member

    Nov 15, 2004
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Maybe when Wales win the World Cup with Gareth Edwards in charge...
     
  13. comme

    comme Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 21, 2003
    Probably best not to discuss a sport you clearly know nothing about.

    Gareth Edwards is widely recognised as being the greatest rugby player of all time. He retired from international rugby in 1978, with the first World Cup being held in 1987 so he didn't exactly have much chance to win it.
     
  14. Leto

    Leto New Member

    Aug 23, 2001
    Donegal,Ireland
    Since when did facts become important?
     
  15. mshankb

    mshankb Member

    Nov 15, 2004
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Well actually I do know very well who Gareth Edwards is. Try reading what I wrote instead of what you think I wrote.
     
  16. And_ROOS

    And_ROOS Member+

    Dec 30, 2006
    Melbourne, Aus
    Paul Collingwood got one for 7 runs... Warne let him know about it too ;)
     
  17. comme

    comme Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 21, 2003
    What is your point then?

    That coaching a World Cup winning side through boring, negative rugby is a greater achievement than being the greatest rugby player ever?
     
  18. mshankb

    mshankb Member

    Nov 15, 2004
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    That maybe if Gareth Edwards manages a world cup winning side he might get a knighthood.
     
  19. Pazarius

    Pazarius New Member

    Jan 10, 2004
    England
    Part of the rationale for awarding these honours to sports figure is that they have brought glory and international prestige to the UK. Merely being a great player, no matter how good you are, is not enough.

    The fact that Clive Woodward won a World Cup makes all the difference. The fact that Gareth Edwards didn't have a chance to win one is unfortunate but doesn't change the situation.
     
  20. comme

    comme Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 21, 2003
    I'm not saying who should or shouldn't have one, but it's really the wrong way to view it IMO.

    Edwards won seven 5 nations championships and 3 grand slams. He was also on the 1971 Lions tour to New Zealand, the only time a Lions team has ever been victorious over there and something Woodward was utterly humiliated in his attempt to achieve in 2005, and the all conquering 1974 Lions tour of S Africa.

    Coaching the winners of the World Cup really pales in comparison.
     
  21. PsychedelicCeltic

    PsychedelicCeltic New Member

    Dec 10, 2003
    San Francisco/London
    All of Woodward's achievements are down to Martin Johnson.

    No Martin Johnson, and Woodward's another failed rugby coach. Ask an England player of the time, and they'll say that Woodward was a complete quack and that the real leader was Martin Johnson. All the time Woodward is talking about expansive rugby, England are playing a forward-based game. Gee, who do you think would be more responsible for that, one of the greatest locks of all-time or an ex-centre?

    If Woodward's coaching skills were responsible for 2003, they mysteriously disappeared by the next season, when he got humiliated by Ireland at Twickenham, and certainly were invisible by the Lions tour, which was the most atrociously run and managed tour in the history of British and Irish rugby. The Tour from Hell was child's play compared to that.

    His receiving a knighthood is frankly an insult to the honours system and should be used as a guide to when to give a sportsman a gong. Paul McCartney waits 40 years to get his, while Woodward gets his in the middle of his career. I'm certain people's opinions of Paul McCartney aren't changing, but Woodward's been exposed as possibly the least deserving knight ever.

    The sad bit is we'll be having this discussion again in under 10 years time when David Beckham is honoured for services to tabloid front pages.
     
  22. Peakite

    Peakite Member

    Mar 27, 2000
    Berkshire
    Club:
    Halifax Town
    The honours system is a joke anyway, so Collingwood getting one can't be an insult to it.
     
  23. leg_breaker

    leg_breaker Member

    Dec 23, 2005
    Actually I think Paul McCartney's an idiot who shouldn't be seen in public anymore because he does nothing but embarass himself.
     
  24. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium

    Hahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha!

    What a joke.
     
  25. PsychedelicCeltic

    PsychedelicCeltic New Member

    Dec 10, 2003
    San Francisco/London
    Since when do Germans know shit about rugby?
     

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