Stephen Malkmus: Pig Lib

Discussion in 'Books' started by bmurphyfl, Mar 18, 2003.

  1. bmurphyfl

    bmurphyfl Member

    Jun 10, 2000
    VT
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    Montreal Impact
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    Well, today is the release date. I'll be picking up a copy during lunch.

    Does anyone have any early feedback on the new LP?

    Murf
     
  2. nicodemus

    nicodemus Member+

    Sep 3, 2001
    Cidade Mágica
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    PAOK Saloniki
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    I talked to a record store owner that really liked it. I haven't heard it yet though. That store owner will tell you if something is crap too. He's got good tastes, so I've got high expectations.
     
  3. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
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    Columbus Crew
    Getting it tonight, I can't wait.
     
  4. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
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    I think this record is excellent, definately miles better than self titled one that came out a few years back. It seems to me that they are jamming quite a bit more on this one, and the bonus disc just reminds me of the quirkier pavement stuff.
     
  5. nicodemus

    nicodemus Member+

    Sep 3, 2001
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    PAOK Saloniki
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    I got it last night and I really like it. I haven't listened to the bonus disc yet, but will later tonight. I bought so many CDs last night, I'm amazed I've gotten through them all today!
     
  6. bmurphyfl

    bmurphyfl Member

    Jun 10, 2000
    VT
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
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    United States
    Well, after a week of listening to it, Pig Lib isn't doing it for me. It's OK. It's not horrible. But when I ask myself, "If this wasn't Malkmus...it was just some local nobody, would I be excited by this album?". And unfortunately, I find myself saying "no".

    The hooks aren't as sharp as Pavement and his debut album. The lyrics are muddy and when they are clear, aren't up to Malkmus' standards. The beats are rather unimaginative too. The drummer seems to rely too often on a constant 2/4 beat which you can hear in every bar band across America.

    I like a few of the tunes like "Vanessa of Queens" and "Us" but in general, I find myself reaching for my Beulah, Wilco, DJ Shadow, Koop and Calexico CDs over the last few days rather than Pig Lib. Perhaps it will grow on me (I want it to because I'm a massive fan of the man), but after a week, I'm disappointed.

    Murf
     
  7. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
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    Murf, its weird, cause thats exactly how I felt about his first solo disc. I just couldn't get into it at all and held on just cause it was sm. but this one i love, i think that its much better than the first disc lyrically and musically....craw song really sticks out to me as well as the ones you mentioned. When i first put the self titled cd in my player and black book led of the album, i remember thinking, oh no....but with water and a seat leading of this one i got real excited and the album sustains that high for me...
    oh well, different strokes for different folks i guess...
     
  8. mkb3

    mkb3 Member

    Jul 11, 2000
    San Francisco
    Bullish on the pig

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    Yeah, I felt the same way about the first album. Not original and not a pavement cont. either. Very average. But Pig Lig is something like 50% Malkmus/50% Pavement. Nice Hooks. Good effects on the guitar. (Or how ever they describe that ************). And the cryptic lyrics that we expect from SM. Very nice. There are a few jam tunes as well with enough changes of pace to be made into three songs.

    You agree?
     
  9. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
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    Zone 14
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    Re: Bullish on the pig

    I agree. I still have this album on heavy rotation.
     
  10. idi amin

    idi amin New Member

    Does anyone know if the ATP(All tomorrows parties) festival will still be held this September in NY. The concept behind the festival is they let one artist pick all the groups. Stephen Malkmus was to be the curator of the NY festival and pick the lineup.-but their web site has not updated info. I know that Matt Groenig of the Simpsons was doing the one in Los Angeles june 18-22 but it was cancelled due to poor sales(thats what NME said). It was to have FREAKWATER -
    NICK CAVE & BAD SEEDS
    AND YOU WILL KNOW US BY THE TRAIL OF THE DEAD
    BANGS
    BLONDE REDHEAD
    BOREDOMS
    BRAVE COMBO
    BREEDERS
    BUFFALO DAUGHTER
    CARLA BOZULICH
    CHIK, CHIK, CHIK !!!
    DANIEL JOHNSTON
    DANIELSON FAMILE
    FANTOMAS
    JAH WOBBLE
    JOHN WESLEY HARDING
    JOHNNY DOWD
    JUSTIN TROSPER
    LE TIGRE
    LIARBIRD
    MELT BANANA
    MISSION OF BURMA
    MOGWAI
    MORIS TEPPER
    PATTI SMITH
    SHANNONWRIGHT
    THE BLACK HEART PROCESSION
    THE COUP
    THE FALL
    THE MAGIC BAND
    THE MELVINS W/ CAMERON JAMIE
    THE TRACHTENBURG FAMILY SLIDE SHOW PLAYERS

    THROWING MUSES
    UNKNOWN HINSON
    WIRE
    YO LA TENGO
     
  11. idi amin

    idi amin New Member

    Also anyone pickup the Pavement Slow Century double DVD, care to review it.
     
  12. Richth76

    Richth76 New Member

    Jul 22, 1999
    Washington, D.C.
    It has all the videos and some cool interviews with the band. Also some decent live stuff.

    Does anyone else here listen to Preston's School of Industry? I actually enjoy listening to it more than Malkmus' stuff.
     
  13. nicodemus

    nicodemus Member+

    Sep 3, 2001
    Cidade Mágica
    Club:
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    United States
    I really like what I've heard of Preston School of Industry. I only have that one EP and the song they did on that Phish tribute album.
     
  14. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    I like PSOI but when I saw them open up for Wilco last summer they weren't very impressive, and that image taints their cd's for me.
     
  15. Richth76

    Richth76 New Member

    Jul 22, 1999
    Washington, D.C.
    I got an email that PSOI are coming out with a new EP in a couple of months...we'll see.

    I saw Malkmus a couple of weeks back and I swear the man doesn't deviate one note from the album. I could have just cranked the cd and kicked back with some Rolling Rock and got the same effect.
     

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