State of US Soccer Media Commentary

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  1. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Experienced British commentators have talking points prepared on advance.

    But they're a brief sentence, not the first chapter of a novel.

    Like the Cabo Verde center-back is from South Dublin and was "discovered" by the national team when they found his linkedin profile from when he was a mortgage salesman.
     
  2. Beau Dure

    Beau Dure Member+

    May 31, 2000
    Vienna, VA
    That was mentioned in one of the games.
     
  3. Beau Dure

    Beau Dure Member+

    May 31, 2000
    Vienna, VA
    Our English commentators have talked for at least two minutes straight about the Kansas City Chiefs, pausing only to talk about the Royals.
     
  4. GoodHands

    GoodHands Member+

    AC Milan
    United States
    Jul 17, 2024
    Now the idiots in the booth can't stop crying about how hot it is. It is Kansas City in July, what the heck did the expect? They should be calling he match not crying about the heat.
     
  5. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    John Strong had a chance to quote Omar from The Wire and just flubbed it.
     
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  6. owian

    owian Member+

    Liverpool FC, San Diego FC
    May 17, 2002
    San Diego
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Jenny Taft's interview with Infantino yesterday was something straight out of North Korean state TV. These weren't softball questions they were teeball.

    First one was asking him to talk about how amazing this world cup was. His answer was to drone on about how amazing it is that people from all over the world have come here, of course leaving out that people from multiple competing nations weren't allowed in.

    Second one asked why "consistency" is so important in terms of hydration breaks. Just absolutely pathetic. Not a great look for the people trying to say that Fox has nothing to do with the hydration breaks. If not why are they working so hard to justify them?

    Speaking of hydration breaks been interesting to hear the announcers spouting talking points as we go into them now. Very much feels like the word has been passed down from on high to promote them.

    Finally still speaking of hydration breaks, yeah I'm still pissed about them, FIFAPRO came out today and said that they did NOT request them at every match, and don't see the need for them when it's not hot. So yeah if the closest thing football has to a players union wasn't asking for them who was?
     
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  7. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    I muted him after that in punishment.

    You come at the King, you best not miss.

    Of course, that dork Strong was probably trying to quote Machiavelli.
     
  8. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Quite a few people watched and attended the Club World Cup in the US last summer. One of the major talking points was the oppressive heat in the US during those games, and how that would make this summer's World Cup unplayable.......

    So in typical FIFA fashion, they came up with having hydration breaks in every game due to the heat (even though a high number of games have been played indoors or in Canada). It's also the rainy season in Mexico. Plus they played all of the games at night in Monterrey, making the game time conditions much better.

    Yes, FoxCorp took advantage of the ~3 minute Hydration breaks to sell more adds, because, well...... Fox is gonna Fox. They're a greedy corporation afterall. Plus they still have some especially dirty dirt on FIFA surrounding the 2018 and 2022 WC's, so FIFA doesn't really have any way of preventing/stopping Fox from airing ads during the hydration breaks.

    Now, the cynic in me wants to believe that the breaks were put in to appease Fox...... IMO, it's just a coincidence. Weren't their Hydration breaks in Qatar in 2022??? These things aren't going away either. They'll be utilized in 2030 and 2034 too. It's well over 100 degrees in Spain this time of year. Saudi Arabia? C'mon folks.

    Yes, broadcasters are going to take advantage of this too. They're paying BILLIONS of dollars for the rights to broadcast the games after all. Well...... not Fox for this edition, that got a sweet discounted no bid deal as a make weight for the 2022 edition being moved to November.
     
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  9. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think the 3 minutes was a Fox thing. You can rehydrate in 30 seconds. If the hydration breaks had been 30 or 60s most fans wouldn't have an issue.
     
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  10. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah it should be actual hydration and maybe cooling, but zero coaching.
     
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  11. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    Clearly, the commentators have been instructed to speak to first time or new soccer audiences.

    I for one am pleased that they are separating Wallace from the other three main studio hosts. Something about his entire demeanor just doesn’t fit with the other three. I don’t know what he was expecting. But you can’t act like the alpha “last word authority” guy in that foursome and expect to get away with it.
     
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  12. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wallace? I assume you mean Lalas and you were dictacting to your phone or something.
     
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  13. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    yes, for some reason, I can’t edit or correct mistakes on my phone
     
  14. Beau Dure

    Beau Dure Member+

    May 31, 2000
    Vienna, VA
    There are other broadcasters in the world, I believe.
     
  15. owian

    owian Member+

    Liverpool FC, San Diego FC
    May 17, 2002
    San Diego
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I could maybe back your theory of the case except that both Fox and FIFA are vigorously defending them now, and trying to make a case that they should be a normal part of the game going forwards. Plus add the fact that they are three minutes, and FIFA are allowing commercial breaks leaves me with the impression that something else is going on.

    Here's my theory, we all know that soccer isn't as lucrative for the tv broadcasters as other American sports because there are no in game commercial breaks. The money people in the sport have always looked jealously at American sports tv contracts. I believe at some point there were discussions between FOX and FIFA. FOX is FIFA's biggest right's payer, and the US their most important market. So it's not crazy that they are talking and coordinating, you would have expected them to be talking just as normal practice for an event that's this important for both. At some point the numbers for how much FOX are able to charge are shared. and FIFA realizes how much more valuable a possible US tv deal becomes with these breaks.

    I admit it feels a little tin foil hattish, but the other alternative is to believe that FIFA naively stumbled upon this mechanism that makes their TV contracts more valuable, purely by accident with their only intention being player safety. Call me a skeptic.
     
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  16. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    There's little doubt that FIFA knows they can charge a lot more with commercial breaks. I'm sure that when well meaning people pointed out that hydration breaks would be needed, Infantino saw an opportunity and went with it.
     
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  17. Jumbalaya

    Jumbalaya Member+

    Apr 27, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Sunderland AFC
    To be fair there are about a million quotes from that masterpiece anyone can misquote or blank out on.
     
  18. Jumbalaya

    Jumbalaya Member+

    Apr 27, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Sunderland AFC
    Fox is just so terrible at it you can't treat the World Cup like it's an NFL Sunday game... Dr. Joe Machilink (whatever his name is) is such a waste of air time just let the play by play man explain it... it's stupid even when the NFL has some rules guy who chimes in during ref replays.

    It's not 1994 anymore and most people have the internet and subscribe to leagues across the world we don't need to everything explained to us like we just learned the sport existed 3 days ago.
     
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  19. Beau Dure

    Beau Dure Member+

    May 31, 2000
    Vienna, VA
    Come out and ref some youth soccer games and listen to the coaches. They don’t get the Laws of the Game in the least, let alone the latest thinking in how to apply them.
     
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  20. Jumbalaya

    Jumbalaya Member+

    Apr 27, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Sunderland AFC
    I couldn't stand JP Dellacamera for years but he lets the game flow now and barely interrupts during a match. John Strong calls our matches like a kid who just discovered fire for the first time.
     
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  21. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    To me, the best, greatest, most clever Easter egg for parents watching a show with their kids was when iCarly referenced Snoop’s death. I lost it.
     
  22. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you compare the ratings for the Cup to the ratings for those leagues from around the world, yeah, we do.
     
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  23. Jumbalaya

    Jumbalaya Member+

    Apr 27, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Sunderland AFC
    "It’s Baltimore, gentlemen. The gods will not save you"
     
  24. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    lol. Ouch
     
  25. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We have 3 or 4x as many kids playing soccer as we had in 1994, which means a lot more soccer moms and dads, and millions of them will have played soccer growing up. We also have a lot more immigrants from soccer playing countries.

    It's not 1994.
     

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