State of the Union PBP [R]

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by Demosthenes, Jan 27, 2010.

  1. Demosthenes

    Demosthenes Member+

    May 12, 2003
    Berkeley, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  2. HerthaBerwyn

    HerthaBerwyn Member+

    May 24, 2003
    Chicago
    If he says 'bipartisan' more than twice Im breaking out the Malort. It takes two to tango and the Reps refuse to dance.
     
  3. marek

    marek Member

    Lechia Gdańsk
    Poland
    Jun 27, 2000
    Club:
    OSP Lechia Gdansk
    what about everytime he mentions himself?

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9UIpW_3P5s&feature=player_embedded"]YouTube- You Probably Think This Speech is About You[/ame]
     
  4. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Spending freeze.

    I just know the whole f'cking thing is gonna piss me off to no end.
     
  5. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Make no mistake

    Let me be perfectly clear

    Policies of the last 8 years

    Inherited

    Status Quo

    Our actions averted another great depression
     
  6. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Oh, I know! If he says "change" I might have to break the TV.
     
  7. Barbara

    Barbara BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 29, 2000
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Then why watch? Seriously. If it's going to upset you so much do something else. It's not like he's going to say something unpredictable or momentous and if he does, you'll hear about it soon enough.
     
  8. minerva

    minerva Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    no one should take this shit so seriously.
    the proles just need to go about their normal, every day business, and pay no attention to the man behind the mask, manipulating the strings of government at his will.
     
  9. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    I could say the same thing about watching DC United in recent years. But that I watch too for the same reason I'll watch tonight: I just can't not. And, of course, don't discount the masochistic thrill and the pleasure of complaining afterward. ;) :eek:
     
  10. roadkit

    roadkit Greetings from the Fringe of Obscurity

    Jul 2, 2003
    Fornax Cluster
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have to. Part of my job, more or less. I could always read the text, I suppose.
     
  11. Steamer

    Steamer New Member

    Jan 30, 2006
    I'm just wondering if he's going to use his negro dialect or his non-negro dialect, tonight.
     
  12. Demosthenes

    Demosthenes Member+

    May 12, 2003
    Berkeley, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think he's going to talk about educator accountability. That always goes over well with both sides.
     
  13. Smurfquake

    Smurfquake Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 8, 2000
    San Carlos, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sip every time there's a standing ovation from the Democrats -- two sips if both Republicans and Democrats stand. Watching the crowd in previous SOTUs was like watching a bunch of jack-in-the-boxes -- I bet it continues from the other side of the aisle now.
     
  14. Demosthenes

    Demosthenes Member+

    May 12, 2003
    Berkeley, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If only the Republicans stand up and the Dems remain seated, that's a whole beer.
     
  15. Kobranzilla

    Kobranzilla Member

    Sep 6, 2001
    NY F'in City
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My bookie has just lowered the odds from 500-1 to 100-1 that he utters "suck it" at some point..

    needless to say, I took some action on that
     
  16. chad

    chad Member+

    Jun 24, 1999
    chicago
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Team Banks!
     
  17. appoo

    appoo Member+

    Jul 30, 2001
    USA
    You'll die.

    I wish he would tell America the truth. That none of the choices before us are good one, that we have to choose between things like supporting Social Security/Medicare for retirees and not having a big deficit/large deficit. Because you can't have both.

    I wish he'd tell America that you can't have both an economic recovery and a small government, because government spending is what's propping up the economy right now. You can either have higher unemployment or you can have higher government spending and more government in the economy. There is nothing in between.

    But for some reason, I don't think that's going to happen. I think the President is going to tell us we're going to have it all.
     
  18. appoo

    appoo Member+

    Jul 30, 2001
    USA
    They might be annoying, but they are accurate.
     
  19. Flyin Ryan

    Flyin Ryan Member

    May 13, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well in that case, they should've never published this chart at the beginning of their administration:

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    We're not out of the woods yet.
     
  20. appoo

    appoo Member+

    Jul 30, 2001
    USA
    Has nothing to do with what I posted
     
  21. Pathogen

    Pathogen Member

    Jul 19, 2004
    Like you care.
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is my approach. We'll know soon enough the direction he'll want to go after the SOTU. I never liked watching the SOTU, any way.
     
  22. CHICO13

    CHICO13 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 4, 2001
    SECTION 135
    Club:
    The Strongest La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Probably his negro dialect. How else are the southern red staters supposed to understand him?
     
  23. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Taking shots of vodka is preferable to trashing the TV, and much more satisfying in the long run.
     
  24. Flyin Ryan

    Flyin Ryan Member

    May 13, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We're doing government spending, and according to the Obama Administration's own early 2009 prediction selling the stimulus plan, the government spending is producing a worse result than what no government spending would've done to the unemployment rate. Which means one of two things:

    1.) Government spending is hurting the economy and employment (which is not true, but based on the result of their own chart that is one hypothesis), or
    2.) They completely misread the economy when they took the reins of control a year ago. (they've said this, but what's that mean for which of their policies were right and wrong?)

    Fixing the economy is not spending. Spending can help short-term, but it doesn't fix structural problems, it just papers over them like Greenspan's rate cuts to get us out of the dotcom recession at the beginning of the last decade. Our country's long-term health is dependent on fixing longstanding structural problems, some of which have been third rails in American politics. Some of these issues are ignored by both parties because it means asking their constituents to accept pain and a decrease in their standard of living. When we have spineless politicians that aren't honest with their constituents, well, no wonder we are where we are now.
     
  25. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Chicago
    They aren't mutually exclusive. You can address long term structural issues AND provide keynesian stimulus. It will be interesting if he addresses any of the big three in our budget tonight.
     

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